I also wanna add 3d Vision which brings new realism and feel in the game. I am really loving it.
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spradhan01 Notebook Virtuoso
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You have a 3D computer/Laptop ??
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spradhan01 Notebook Virtuoso
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The clevo is a "sleeper" for sure.
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anyone know if the cpu can be over clocked on this?
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Only extremes by bios (if the option is unlocked) or by throttlestop.
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so no using setfsb to manipulate a hex key either?
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Is your CPU OC'ed to 3.5 on all cores??
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Yup. I need to update my sig, I'm running at 3.6GHz now. I haven't pushed it past that yet, since I don't want to overstress my PSU. My results so far show that TDP is the most influencing factor with turbo boost. I lowered my TDC to 65 (from 90) and still managed to keep the 3.6GHz overclock.
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What about the load temps?
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Intel Burn test for 30 mins maxed at 87*C, with a cooler 80*C.
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What's your TDP at? There's no way you're sustaining 3.6 GHz on all 4 cores. Pics or it didn't happen. I can push mine to 3 GHz sustained on all 4 cores with a 90W TDP and with my CPU cooling mods, the temps hit about 90C. I don't see your Clevo doing 3.6 GHz. I've attached a photo of mine at 95W TDP and that's the max clock it gets on air with no external cooling but that is a sustained clock on all 4 cores.
P.S. don't even try to show me some CPU-Z or HWInfo photo either. Turn on WPrime 1.55, 8 threads and the 1024 MB test and have the TS window open in the screenshot with at least 50% of the test completed. I'll bet money you won't get near 3.6 GHz sustained on all 4 cores. Even with Soviet's cooling mods I don't think it would be possible because the 8690 PSU can't handle that kind of load. Not even a 150W Clevo PSU could.Attached Files:
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My internet is down so I'm using my phone. My TDP is at 105W been tinkering with the TDC. Following unclewebb's formula, TDP = core voltage x TDC. I have hyperthreading off and I did try wPrime while testing. I did manage 3.4Ghz and 3.5Ghz on all cores, 3.6Ghz is giving me problems to sustain on this 180W PSU with all cores but I can manage it with 2 cores.
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Take some screen caps and fire them up once your internet is restored. This is pretty interesting.
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Joker runs all 8 exe cores @ 3ghz.. without HT you're only runing the 4 primary cores, and not the other 4 exe cores. You're missing 1/3 of the entire processor.
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I said show me one with 8 threads.
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I tried it on 8 threads couple days ago, I can't sustain past 3.0Ghz.
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Yeah I didn't think so, that's all I was asking you from the start.
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Ah, no problem then. I noticed that you have more overclock headroom with HT off, that's how I sustain 3.5Ghz. 3.6 seems to be my limit.
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that's because you don't have another 4 processor exe cores drawing power and running @ 3.6ghz to worry about. You're talking an easy 20-30W.
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I wanted it to be clear so others who need a little bit more speed will know what has to be done.
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I'm sure ChinNoobonic uses his laptop primarily for gaming, so who cares about HT? Especially if you gain 500 MHz... quad @ 3,0 GHz with HT might even be slower than quad @ 3,5 GHz. If HT really draws so much extra power it becomes evident how useless this technology really is...
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I'm thinking this too.
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i think it was more about someone stating doing 3.6 ghz without stating it was ran with ht off. that's about it.
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I'd be interested in a wPrime score with HT off at 3.6.
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we were not talking about perfomance.. we were talking about maximum stable overclock... you can't in any situation compare an overclock with HT off to one that has HT on.
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Most people overclock not for the fun of it but to gain performance, so naturally we are also talking about performance if we talk about overclocking... and if you can reach a higher overclock without HT and you don't even benefit from it why not disable it? That does not make the oc less "valid" or incomparable.
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which part of HT overclock compared to a non-HT overclock is confusing? Did you even read what joker asked for? Here, let me refresh your memory
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Yeah, sorry. I over clock for the pure fun and enjoyment it brings.
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I guess that makes you a weirdo
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Come on Lozz you don't need to be nasty. Maybe he just forget to tell us that HT was off that's all. Even there, HT is only a feature... not the purpose of mobile I7 at all. That's why we can disable it.
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The question was never which is faster. I'm not sure how people have managed to extract that from Joker's question. The question *was* how he managed 3.6ghz, and if it was on all 4 cores with HT. The answer is no, it was not. End of story. No further 'but 3.6ghz w/o HT is probally faster' required, because it was never a factor.
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I think you got me wrong. I'm not participating in any "who reached the highest overclock" debate. You got a point if you think it's a dishonest claim 3.6 GHz oc without stating HT is disabled. I merely find it interesting that you can reach a much higher oc with HT disabled as it is useless in most cases anyway it's a pretty useful information.
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Ok, yes.. I agree. The M17x can not disable HT, which is why Joker was initally asking the question and requesting how high he could go with it on. It is fairly un-necessary most of the time, I agree.
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3.6 no h/t would murder the 3.0 w/ ht.
benchmarks already exist for this sort of thing
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Well to settle this, I do not game mostly. I do a lot of video editing and 3d rendering so speed is important to me. Just like with the desktop versions, you can achieve a higher overclock by disabling HT. Joker assumed I was using all 8 threads, when I while back I made it clear of my reasons to have HT off. I'm not in the race to have bragging rights on highest overclock as the guy with that title fried his mobo.
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44243 3DMarks in 3D Mark 2003 for my overclocked GX-740, I imagine the GTX 480M would be able to break 50K once overclocked.
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What is the point of measuring GTX 480M (2010 card) performance with 3DMark 2003?!...
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im a weirdo for being a real bencher huh...that is too funny.
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to say that a far lessor card has a shot at beating it. while benching 01/03/05. this includes using 720s or 740's. if the over clock is there. -
Could you run a wPrime comparison between the two? I'd like to see the results.
GTX 480M , W880CU benched
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by mitsuhide, Aug 14, 2010.
