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    GTX 880M ~ Is This Legit?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Shinra358, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. Shinra358

    Shinra358 Notebook Consultant

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    You can trust the seller. The item is probably OEM with no manufacturer warranty.
     
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    $1098.00 WOW

    This is a pre order only. They don't say when the card will ship. They do say it will be 28nm, so this is just a upgraded 780m. I.e. this is not the big upgrade that Maxwells 20nm was expected to give us. Also note they say 15% restocking fee, but below say the item is not returnable.
     
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    Same TDP limit with higher boost clocks and more vram. Get a 780m.
     
  5. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    ^not to mention slightly inferior vRAM as well (Elpida in 880M vs Samsung in 780M)
     
  6. Shinra358

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    Would more ram in the card increase the gpu load maximum capacity? Can someone explain to me what gpu load is?
     
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    It has too much ram so won't use it all so some is wasted, performance at stock will be the same.

    gpu load is like cpu load, what percentage of the core is in use (very rough figures are used usually)
     
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    So would the 880m have more gpu load capacity than any of the lower cards?
     
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    Load capacity is an odd way of thinking about it. More the performance of the 780m and 880m will be very similar. They are much faster than the 770/870 though.
     
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    Just some speculation, as mentioned earlier this is not the Maxwell upgrade, maybe Nvidia will do "MX" on those as they did with the 600M Fermi to Keper change.
     
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    Very likely or just do a 900 series as the desktop side of things is in the same position.
     
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    I once bought a Core 2 Duo from them and I had no problem at all with it. It's still alive you can trust this seller but I would consider for 1000$ if I can get it somewhere else :)
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    I see no value in it over the 780m let's put it that way.
     
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    Also depends on what GPU you're upgrading from, and more importantly which computer you have, to know about compatibility. Since this card isnt released yet we dont know what it will work on.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes the 780M is the same core and has issues with the EM series so we will have to wait and see on that front.
     
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    There a drivers for the 800m series on the nvidia website so I guess the will be out soon
    Edit. It's a driver for the 820m


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    I hope they release it soon. The sooner they release it, the sooner the price on the 780s decrease. My future NP9570 is on Sager's bench now with only one 780m.
     
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    Prices of mxm cards tends to drop slowly and with the 880m being the same again it won't be quick.
     
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    It's coming...
    Is it compatible with HM series notebooks?
    Can someone please test :)
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    Unlikely since it's still the same type of vbios. No new boost functions and such.
     
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    Remember that I called it first! The price dropped on the 780m. The single card upgrade is now $150. In SLI you save $200. Had it been that price two weeks ago I would have pulled the trigger. I wonder if my final price will reflect that. My NP9570 is still not at Xotic from Sager.
     
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    I thought you meant buying the card itself. Yes usually there is a little drop on the cards in systems.
     
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    Regardless of that fact, which you are correct, the end result is the same. The price was slashed in half. It is just my luck or lack there of. Back in the 90's I had purchased an expensive desktop and the day that I received it a new Intel Pentium became standard. I know that is the way with technology but the next day @#&(. Watch, the day I get my workstation Sager will have the 120Hz screen back.
     
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    Well if it was p3 to p4 then the p3 was better anyway :p
     
  25. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Sorry, i compoletely diagree with this, the p4's with HT that came out, and like 1m l2 cache were beasts at the time in comparison to the p3's with slower bus and half the cache...
    the p3's totally sucked. The largest jumped Ive noticed were the p1-p2, and then the p3-p4 jumps.
     
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    The initial pentium 4s were beaten by the old fastest pentium 3s, that combined with the P4 taking Intel down a path that allowed AMD to dominate them for a time until they returned to the P3 way of thinking with the Pentium M, I don't think you can hold the P4 as a prime example of design.
     
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    AMD dominated with their first Athlon 64 X2's, as dual core stuff was lackluster in intel at the time.
    The Sempron line sucked though...not to mention Duron (gulp!).

    Pentium D was a total fail of the worst kind for the same reasons.

    And then came the Core series which dominated everything.
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

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    Now AMD almost seemed to decide that actually the low IPC high frequency path of the P4 was an excellent idea and tried it themselves :/
     
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    It does look good, i'll be interested to see the result.
     
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    but we won't get Maxwell for laptops this year, will we?
     
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    We should see this chip, it was designed for notebooks after all. The 20nm ones depend on tsmc.
     
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    Okay, im getting this as soon as it appears in this year's clevo lineup :3
    Currently my gtx660m draws ~55W max, but the performance is lackluster in some games.

    With this thing, capped at ~66W and the huge performance boost, Im just gonna pull the trigger on a haswell refreshed system this year :D
     
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    Well haswell refresh is going to be later, you might want to wait for the 20nm maxwell at that point.
     
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    As far as rumors around the web go, I read haswell refresh is bound for april, 800 series NVidia are coming this month.
    So if my calculations are correct, I may get a new machine end of april?

    When is broadwell hitting the resellers?
    And 20nm Maxwell, is it going to happen this year?

    If 14nm broadwell + 20nm Maxwell happen in 2014, I am inclined to wait for that goodness.
    What does your sense tell you, Meaker?
     
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    Broadwell is looking like next year.
     
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    So far, nothing is coming out from the 800 lineup :S
    They were due for February but its march now...

    As far as I was able to look into it, the only Maxwell parts will be gt840m and gtx860m, still on 28nm die.
    Notebookcheck doesn't say anything on that subject (neither the power consumption nor the rest of the details like benchmarks).

    Anyone got any news to share on that?
     
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    Bah that's silly considering how well the core could do with 128bit GDDR5, but that's nvidia for you I guess.
     
  41. n=1

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    This actually makes me feel better about my SLI 780M LOL (as bad as that sounds)