Gaming Notebook: Sager NP9262 Sager NP5796

First off: I hope these are available in Canada.

Okay, I've narrowed it down to two choices (Which are subject to change if someone can locate me something cheaper/better/whatever). I'll be gone for two weeks on vacation without a computer so I'll read any comments people post on these when I get back. I didn't consider the Asus one's posted in this thread just because the graphics card isn't the best. Correct me if the Asus systems are better. Anyways: I don't want massive debate on what's better I just want straight answers.

First: Sager NP9262

17" Wide Viewing Angles WSXGA+ LCD with Super Glossy Surface (1680 x 1050)
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Processor Q6700 / 8MB L2 Cache, 2.66GHz, 1066MHz FSB OR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor E8500 / 6MB L2 Cache, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz FSB
Dual Nvidia GeForce 9800M GT Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory in SLI mode OR Single Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTX Graphics with 1GB DDR3 Video Memory
Genuine MS Windows® VISTA Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 X 2048MB
320GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive

Second: Sager NP5796

17" Wide Viewing Angles WSXGA+ LCD with Super Glossy Surface (1680 x 1050)
45nm Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9600 / 6MB L2 Cache, 2.80GHz, 1066MHz FSB OR 45nm Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X9100 / 6MB L2 Cache, 3.06GHz, 1066MHz FSB
Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTX Graphics with 1GB DDR3 Video Memory
Genuine MS Windows® VISTA Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 2 X 2048MB
320GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive

The second choice is a few hundred more, just for price purposes.

I'm looking to run at least Crysis on at least High with at least 20 FPS for benchmarking purposes.

Thanks for any help.

 

no,asus systems are not better.try to contact Gophn or Justin@xoticpc,they will explain everything to you. and both of them will run crysis >>> then 20fps at high

 

I forgot to mention I'd like it to AT LEAST play the latest games for 3 years.

 

If you want to play the latest games for 3 years ON HIGH SETTINGS, you'll need a 9262.
Otherwise you'll be fine with a 5796

 

hmm,then get something like this

- 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200) get hi-res display,it looks very good on 17"
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel Core 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHz w/ 8MB L2 Cache - 1066MHz FSB or q9450 if you have the money
- SLI ENABLED DUAL (2) 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9800M GT (1024MB Total) w/GDDR3 DX10 Video Cards (User Upgradeable) This will be enough for any game for 2-3 years
- None Standard
- ~ 2,048MB DDR2 800 (1 SODIMM) Memory (and upgrade to 4 by yourself)

it is for Sager 9262,you can get it from eurocom(canada based) or xoticpc/powernotebooks (USA based)

 

If you want to future-proof your notebook for the next 3 years, then most definitely get the D901C.

Quad Core Q9450 (best bang for the bucks, imho)
SLI 9800 series
4 GB RAM

 

There needs to be a sticky for general 9262 and 5796 comparisons. These threads are getting kind of repeatative.

 

What is the D901C?

 

D901C is the chassis on which the 9262 is built, as many other names.
In all consideration, the 9262=D901C .

I recommend it for at least 3 years og gaming at high details

 

Please see the Clevo guide:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=264311

Clevo is the ODM who makes the D901C chassis. Sager, and many others, buy the barebones, build the notebooks and sell it under their own re-branded names. Sager's version of the Clevo D901C is the NP9262,

 

Thank you all for this great forum so I could make the right decision buying the right notebook for me.
Sorry for my English cause I’m a Dutchy.
Playing next gen games for the upcoming 3 years is also very important to me.
I cancelled my order for the 570TU and directly placed a new order for the D901C.
The 570TU was giving me a headache cause of the delay… ordered the system on 7-19-08 from XXODD in the Netherlands(my local clevo reseller)
The more I had to wait for it the more doubts I get about the ability to play next gen games on high settings.
Since September last year I was waiting for the montineva platform to be released expected to be a leap in performance over the centrino platform.
I don’t care for battery life but for the best performance in next gen games and upgradability so this is for me the best choice

 

Why? there is no comparison. No, but seriously, how can u beat a desktop Quad Core!

 

A question: Would getting Raid improve gaming performance?

Also should I go with the Quad processor or Dual?

Should I go with the single powerful graphics card, or the dual SLI cards? Keep in mind I want to this to work for at least 3 years of new games.

 

Dual SLI cards for best performance this set up will last 2-3 years.(I hope because that's what i am getting)
If you could afford it go for the Quad.
Yes Raid would also improve read and write performance.

 

true, but i think that most people can't decide over the new 'technology' compared to the raw performance.. aka fingerprint reader vs proc? so different people with different specific needs for 17" should read (if it was created,) the sticky for these two's 'comparisons'.. this question still pops up from time to time

 

Right!...I understand.

 

IKAS V, just through curiosity, are you going for the 9800M GT or 9800M GTX in SLI?

 

or perhaps even 9800gt in sli and then upgrade later if necessary...also a possibility

 

or perhaps even 9800gt in sli and then upgrade later if necessary...also a possibility

That’s also my choice... with the 9800m GT SLI the 9262 is future proof enough for the next half year or even longer... I think.
If the 9262 goes beyond the 9800m GTX without a MOBO upgrade, I will upgrade after that.
And if the 9800m GTX SLI and the Q9650 will be a huge leap in performance maybe sooner.
I’ll just wait and see when it’s the best moment to upgrade my 9262 depending on price/ performance.
Still have to receive my ordered 9262 do

Originally Posted by leonyeo1001
true, but i think that most people can't decide over the new 'technology' compared to the raw performance.. aka fingerprint reader vs proc? so different people with different specific needs for 17" should read (if it was created,) the sticky for these two's 'comparisons'.. this question still pops up from time to time

I totally agree… I was also blinded by the new technology vs raw performance.
First (September last year) when I was looking for a desktop replacement system I came across alienware.
After more searching I found Sager/Clevosystems on the web who seriously caught my interest.
The 901c was my first choice over the 570RU .
After that I was reading about the upcoming centrino 2 platform with DDR3 and more new and maybe faster specs/things/ups and really thought it would be the end of days for the 901c… and I was so wrong.
Now I realise I could have almost the same system a half year ago with 8800m GTX SLI.

 

Actually, I'd like to hear what an expert would do in our position.

@ Shyster, Nirvana, Elmer and Chaz:

If you were in our position, of getting a first gaming notebook (i.e. not having one already), would you guys get the 9800gt sli and then see if its worth upgrading 9800gtx sli or would you just wait notebook-less until the 9800gtx comes out. Would love to hear what each of you guys would do

 

I really want to get the GTX in SLI, but i am not sure if I can or want to wait 2-3 months for it.If it's was coming out in the next couple of weeks or even 1 month I would wait for it to debut.
I am pretty confident that dual 9800M GT will be able to play all or most games at almost the highest settings for the next 2-3 years.
But I know I will be kicking myself in the ass if I order the M GT cards in SLI and then 1 or 2 months later the GTX in SLI come out.
Waiting for these announcements really suck's!
Hopefully they can figure it out and at least give a time frame.
On a side note Eurocome actually has the GTX cards in SLI as a option but for an extra $1200!!!...WTF!
If that's any indication of how expensive that option is the 9800M GT cards in SLI really look good.
Eurocom is very expensive so hopefully other 901C retailers have a much better price.We can all dream!!

 

Yea IKAS, I feel just exactly the same, but at the end of the day, its probably going to take a while and as you say, waiting really really sucks, it actually doesn't even come down to performance anymore, because 9800gt sli will as you said, manage almost anything for a long time, while chances are, the 9800gtx sli will be (so i have the feeling) be only somewhat better.

At this point the added performance seems only marginal, but the irritating fact remains, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE BESTEST GRAPHICS CARD ON THE MARKET it's ever so silly to think about it like that, but its a subconscious element some simply can't supress...rationality is difficult to enforce in these situations.

 

This post makes me lol.

There haven't been many benchmarks relating to the differences between the 9800M GT and 9800M GTX. The only one available so far is on notebookcheck, and that shows a relatively small increase in performance. I'm not entirely convinced on the veracity and accuracy of this document, but it's pretty much the only information available. If not having the "BEST VIDEO CARD" in the market, is going to bother you as much as it seems to; wait for the GTX, see what the actual difference in performance is and decide from there.

 

Waiting Suck's.........lol