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    GeForce GTX 680MX

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Montage, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. Montage

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    Ok...


    GeForce GTX 680MX | GeForce

    [Nvidia] GTX 680MX

    "Hidden is a page of a GTX 680MX on their website:
    GPU Engine Specs:
    1536CUDA Cores
    720Processor Clock Tester(MHz)
    92.2Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
    Memory Specs:
    2500 MHzMemory Clock
    GDDR5Memory Interface
    256-bitMemory Interface Width
    160Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec)
    Feature Support:
    4.1OpenGL
    PCI Express 3.0Bus Support
    YesCertified for Windows 7
    3D Vision, 3DTV Play, CUDA, DirectX 11, PhysX, SLI, TXAA, Adaptive VSync, FXAASupported Technologies
    2-waySLI Options
    Yes3D Vision Ready"
     
  2. Zymphad

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    You should get it, AMD sucks right?
     
  3. Montage

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    WHaaaaaaaaaa?
     
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    Can any of the resellers comment on if they know if its coming to clevo or just for the imac?
     
  5. Blacky

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    I am sure this is coming for Clevo as well. :)

    Either way, we are probably looking at a 10% performance gain, so don't get too excited.
    In all likely hood that 680MX will replace the 680M at the same price point.
     
  6. jaug1337

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    Blacky this isn't your style :p 10% gain, I would a lot more.. but again, the price is going to kill customers
     
  7. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    I would say they're likely to be coming for Clevo units as well. We haven't received any details on it as far as I'm aware.
     
  8. explor3r3

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    i think this is gonna be an Apple special then other brands (like always ... Apple try to be a top of all specs/components to double the price of his products ) .... later this days i see a MacBookPro 17'' in a store that has more higher price (+ at least 600 euros) than my P170EM (1400 euros) but with lower specs ....
     
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    Only time will tell. It may be Apple exclusive now but that doesn't mean always. Nvidia bread and butter is outside of the mac market, I don't see why a MX version wouldn't be made available to the PC community. As of right now though, this is pure speculation on all parts and is Exclusive to Apple for the time being.
     
  10. Zymphad

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    The 680MX won't be appearing in any Apple MacBook, highly doubt that.

    The Apple standalone desktop machines, if people didn't know, are actually gigantic, massive laptops. They use mobile parts and that is what the 680MX most likely be fore. What a waste of money. It's worse than a MacBook. If you're going to get a huge 27" desktop behemouth, I would hope it's twice as powerful as a laptop for the price they charge. It's a joke I think. Everytime someone buys an iMac, I imagine everyone at Apple HQ drop to the floor and laugh, and a few maybe go into fits of seizure and or get a stroke from laughing too hard. MORE MONEY FOR LESS, that's Apple's motto I bet.

    And just think, a 7950 so cheap, then possibly flash that to a 7970, monster OC and it's performance that even a OC'd 680 couldn't touch in a number of games. Yeah... and they say Apple isn't for gaming. Then what is it for? Professional? What professional is going to spend that much for so little, GeForce Nvidia is pathetic for GPGPU/CUDA/OpenCL right now. It's a joke, it has to be!
     
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    Try with NEVER guys. Apple laptops will have such strong GPU's on board, the machine is going to melt.
     
  12. Blacky

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    There's no die shrink now, so what is going to happen is that the matured 28nm process will allow for better chips coming out while production costs will remain the same. But these increases are usually marginal. Combine this with a slightly improved design and what you usually get is a 10-15% performance gain. I would be very happy with a 15% performance gain.

    I am basing my statements on previous years, because since the days of the 7900 GTX this is how it has been like. So far the only exception was the 680M - 7970M transition for which I expected a 30-35% performance gain and this was more like a 45% gain (on average).
     
  13. TrantaLocked

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    Here comes the HD 7990m.
     
  14. kaltmond

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    Where

    10char.
     
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    Under there.

    My question is, will this make the 680m cheaper? If it goes within $100 of the 7970m the 680m would become a pretty damn good deal. However, having a downclocked GTX 680 (which the 680mx is) is pretty badas*s, and Nvidia will likely once again take advantage and overprice.

    Like I said, expect a 7990m soon. It will be an underclocked HD 7970 or HD 7950.
     
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    The top card from Nvidia tends to always be one price, so it's pretty likely the 680m would drop in price when this happens. The same will likely happen with AMD though and make the price gap very similar if not the same.
     
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    Will 680m drop their price or just be discontinued? I doubt.....
     
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    itll probably just stay the same as a standalone upgrade kit. but in a laptop the 680m will most likely drop in price as an upgrade from the stock gpu in a laptop config, at least for the (probably very short) time span when resellers offer both the 680m and 680mx in their machines.

    to sum it up: so far ive never seen the top of the line gpu model drop in price just because a new successor came up. if at all, it stayed at the same pricing or actually got even more expensive due to the shortening available number of chips (for the stand-alone upgrade kit).

    btw, i also agree that the 680mx will NEVER be a part of an apple machine. apple has never implemented a top of the line gpu in their machines so far, always midrange! besides, the 680mx revision just goes hand in hand with the new 675mx and 670mx, thus its not really a big surprise :) and also, as mentioned before, weve seen this kinda behaviour before: new gpu line, then half a year later a small refresh with like 10% speed bump (both for green and red team)

    cheers
     
  19. spybenj

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    The gtx680mx is on the highest end iMac.
     
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    say what?! thats insane! apple going high-end on gpus.... O.O holy moly, i dont even wanna know what a price premium theyre gonna demand for the 680mx, probably like 1500$ extra just for upgrading from the base 660M :D

    but seriously, i wonder how they wanna get a grip on the produced heat, apple machines have been known to overheat and struggle with even midrange components for years now.....ugh, thats gonna be a desaster! either that or its throttling FTW! :p :rolleyes:
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

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    Apple may need it to drive the 2560x1440 screen, at that resolution the 900mhz ram would bite hard, and if you have to use high voltage ram to reach reasonable memory clocks then you are going to break the 100W barrier, so you may as well say **** it and include a full lot of cores.
     
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    Good move Apple. That card is going to be an absolute beast, and because of it's small size, it will fit perfectly in the new super thin iMac.
     
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    For a massive desktop 27", it's pathetic, not a beast. You can build a tiny shuttle that is more powerful and probably a 1/3 what Apple will charge. It's a joke IMO.

    Put it this way, they charged almost $4000 on a Mac Pro with a single HD5870, with a GTX 680MX, I'd expect at least $3K-4K for that. It will be stupid.
     
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    I don't know. The iMac with i5 and 675mx is $1999 MSRP. i7 quad and 680mx will likely be $2499.

    edit:

    Just priced a Shuttle system on Newegg:

    SZ77R5
    i7-3770k
    2x4GB DDR3 1600
    GTX 680
    1TB 7200 HDD

    ~ $1300

    Asus PB series 27" 2560x1440

    ~ $700

    Total is $2000
     
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    Except the 680MX is literally a downclocked desktop GTX 680. Please elaborate on how that is pathetic.
     
  26. Zymphad

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    Because you are paying for so much when I really don't understand the point of paying more for less. Laptops, sure maybe more for less, but you gain mobility. With this, you gain nothing far as I can tell. It's stupid.
     
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    That is a problem relating to Apple in general. They over charge for everything, so if you are going to buy an overpriced product no matter what (Apple), it would make sense to buy the option with the most power.
     
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    like i`ve just say`d before ... overpriced Apple products (all of them) .....
     
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    It is not stupid if people buy them. Some people just want a Mac, and if they have the cash, why not go for the best configuration available?
     
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    Let's not debate the intelligence of Mac buyers... they like to pay a premium for having an Apple brand on their machines.
    Until recently I didn't really care about Macs, but the new High resolution displays made me droll. I wish Clevo would implement similar screens.
    Hear me Clevo ?
     
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    Still under hard decision if i should sold the 370 and get a Sony SVZ, since it will be discontinued....And i really like the design....
     
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    I don't think these high resolution displays are ready for general consumption. There are issues with higher resolutions on the OS level, especially with scaling. OSX doesn't even do a great job of helping in that matter.
     
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    So will it go something like this for Apple with the nVida GTX 680MX?

    A woman doing an emphatic whisper: "nVidia!"

    The logo showing: "The Way It's Meant To Bo Played"

    and a banner running from one side to another reading: "Not The Way It Should Be Priced!" LOLROTF!

    I'm just having some fun here, so please don't shoot me. :hi2:
     
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    that would indeed be a swap from one extreme to the other :D
     
  35. Blacky

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    We are talking about gaming laptops, not general consumption :D.
     
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    I full heartedly support this effort.
     
  37. spybenj

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    Found this:
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    Here's to hoping they're wrong.
     
  38. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Indeed the major problem here is the developers who are taking their leisure time and apple who cant do a good job of optimizing their OS for those high resolution, you dont have a problem of smoothness when you are using a HD3000 on a 2560*1440 res, why would there be a problem with the HD 4000?

    I dont want to see what gpus you are going to want to put in that notebook! I shall droll for that!
     
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    theres always "official recommendations" and whats actually possible in real life with cooling mods ;) especially since most of nbr users here are able to keep up a considerable OC on both cpu and gpu in their machines,some of them with far higher heat production than the jump from regular 680m to 680mx would suggest. i bet it wont be too long until the first users here report a hands-on review of this card after installing it themselves into their machines :p

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    My thoughts exactly, I'm sure it's going to be possible to do, just a matter of how much effort is behind it. There are some pretty enterprising people on here, and even Sager/Clevo themselves I'm sure are eager to get it as well.
     
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    Meaker had to bump up to a 220W (or was it 300W?) PSU in order to properly power the 680m overclocked, and made his own frankenconnector to make it work. Forget about that in the P150EM because max PSU with the type of connector it uses is about 180W. And you can see from my own overclocking at 1000 GPU / 2400 MEM that power draw from the wall was 170-190W and that's with only an i7-3610QM. So even if it is possible, they likely will have to limit it to the 17" or start providing the larger PSU's (and corresponding 4 pin connectors) for 15" notebooks.

     
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    MORE MONEY!!! MORE MONEY!!! Nvidia has deemed, forking over $800 for the 680M wasn't enough. It's Apple time. Time to upgrade to the new 680MX, you have to have it. Get out your wallet. Scream, NVIDIA TAKE MY MONEY. It's Nvidia's new Apple beta program. And it's going to be a smash hit. All 680M owners, get out your wallets and get the latest and the best, 680MX. While at it, upgrade your iPhone 5 to an iPhone 5 just for the hell of it.

    Nvidia should just come out and do it. Send out a massive email, do a massive marketing campaign. Call it, the Steve Jobs Hand Over Your Wallet beta program. It's new, It's Shiny, It's Apple, No it's Nvidia, maybe it's both! Doesn't matter, just get out your wallet and give me your money!

    Of course Nvidia will combine with Apple to resurrect Billy Mays to voice this campaign.
     
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    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Is it just me or I saw psychotic episode?
     
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    Definitely a psychotic episode.
     
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    Damn, I just forked out over 2k a month ago for my sager with a 680m and now the 680mx is coming out. Can't keep up!
     
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    :eek:

    I want one in my next machine...
     
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    You don't have to buy it you know :).
     
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    Well, I told you guys earlier this year, when I saw it coming.
    Nvidia launched their last piece, now its time for 7990m and you know its gonna be true. Just you wait.
    Someone told me "are you crazy, 7970m is already a full chip based on 7870 desktop, nothing is coming out later on".
    Since Nvidia shells out something above desktop 670, then AMD is gonna respond with the same. Its code name will have "XTX", since right now the 7970m has "XT" only.
    Exactly as it was with 6970m and 6990m last year.
     
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    "Of course Nvidia will combine with Apple to resurrect Billy Mays to voice this campaign."

    The potential power that can be tapped when two such forces as Apple and Nvidia combine is greater than any known to man, and can bring the dead to life and cure all diseases.
     
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