Gears Of War 4 creating problems in overclock of EVOC P775DM3-G

I recently purchased my incredible and powerful Gaming Laptop from @hidevolution which was and EVOC P775DM3-G with GTX 1080 and Core i7 6700K Skylake and have enjoyed each second with it, since the time i have got it i have overclocked the processor to 4.4GHZ on all cores which are stable (I had no idea on how to overclock my system but this is where @Phoenix helped me and introduced me to the marvel that is overclocking)
and the temperatures are well below 88C and has passed all torture tests thrown at it.

I have also played a couple of games on it and it can render them on ULTRA without any problems and with the overclock holding at 4.4GHZ, games like Quantum Break, Max Payne 3, Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare, Mafia 3, all these games run extremely well with no issues whatsoever.

Then i downloaded Gear Of War 4 from Windows Store and started to play it on the 11th of October when the game was unblocked by Microsoft, in the beginning i ran the benchmark and it was running perfectly as evident from the image below;

http://imgur.com/izSIWNY

I started to play the campaign and was maybe 30 minutes in when all of a sudden i notice a sharp drop in the FPS which was before averaging 130 but dipped down to 50 and even lower which got me worried and i was running HWinfo along with game to see the temperatures and the clock speed and then i noticed that while running the game the processor was running at 2.6GHZ and was fluctuating wildly sometimes going to 3.0GHZ then 3.9GHz and then going down to 2.5GHZ which got me worried and i thought that there was a problem with the overclock, i have had this laptop for only 3 weeks now and this problems comes up, i not knowing what to do and still not learning the details of overclocking messaged @Phoenix and asked for his help and then met him so that we could sort out the problem.

@Phoenix being the great guy he is met with me and started to tinker with the overclock settings through Control Center because we were not sure what had caused the wild fluctuations in the processor clock speed, i tried to play the game on stock settings but the same thing happened and then i tried to play Mafia 3 and the same problem persisted, @Phoenix tried to change settings of the overclock from the Control Center and even from the BIOS but the problem persisted after maybe an 1 and half with still no solution i suggested to @Phoenix to run 3DMark benchmarks just to see if the problem remains but when running the benchmarks like Firestrike and Timespy the clock speed were stable whether we overclocked it to 4.2GHZ, 4.3GHZ or even 4.4GHZ on all cores and all of a sudden i realized that i still had 1 more game in my hard disk (i only have a 256GB SSD as my operating system which is a PCIE NVME SSD and gears of war 4 takes up more than 80GB of hard disk space) which was Quantum Break and so i tried playing that and the clock was stable again, in the end @Phoenix set up the overclock again at 4.4GHZ, restarted the system and then i tried playing Mafia 3 which ran smoothly and with no fluctuations.

In the end the culprit was Gears Of War 4 which is a poorly optimized (but a great) game which can affect the processor speed in a way that even left @Phoenix puzzled and it has been only 1 day since the games release and i was wondering whether anybody else have had this problem especially Clevo owners.
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EVOC P775DM3-G 17.3"/ Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHZ / G-Skill Ripjaws DDR4 2800 MHZ RAM / Geforce GTX 1080 8.0GB GDDR5 Pascal / 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LG IPS LED Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD / 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive / Killer™ Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10 PRO

 

Any idea guys why only that game causes the CPU clock speed to dip to 2.5GHZ the moment it is launched? It's the only game that does this.

Firestirke, AIDA64, wPRIME stability Test all ran fine with clocks holding and Temps max @ 88C

Power Limit 1/2 is maxed out in the BIOS although we have no access to power limit 3 and 4 with the stock BIOS or a Turbo Power limits but I even set the CPU VRAM current limit to the max along with the max current limit

Its only that one game which does this.

I told Shakeeb I don't trust anything which comes from Micro$h4ft but we would like to hear from j00

@Papusan @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @bloodhawk @Mr. Fox

 

Hello, and welcome to the community. Congrats on the monsterbook, too. Very nice.

Good thing you had Brother @Phoenix helping you out. You know, I would venture a guess that 90% of the gamers in the world (mostly dominated by noobs) would never have even noticed or checked out the behavior of their systems. Probably fairly safe to say many don't even know how to.

Question: is the dip to 2.5GHz permanent for as long as the game is running, or only for a bit after you first launch it?

My first recommendation is to install ThrottleStop and set the minimum processor state to 100% in the advanced power profile settings. That may totally cure the problem. You will most likely have to do both. Uninstall XTU if it has been installed. Also, temporarily uninstall Clevo Control Center. If the problem goes away with ThrottleStop and comes back with the installation of XTU and/or Clevo Control Center, that will be useful knowledge.

I agree that Micro$loth is unworthy of our trust and especially so since the release of their ludicrous Windoze OS X abortion. The longer I use this pile of feces OS, the more I think it blows.

I am excited about GoW because I like and still play the original PC version released in 2007. However, my expectations are very low. Being an XBOX port makes it susceptible to being a pile of junk right off the bat, and being released through Windows 10 Store almost instantly qualifies it as a trash candidate. I'll probably still play it if I can get it for free, but I won't have my surprised look on my face if it turns out to be feces like the OS itself. I think that I may have to reinstall Windows 10 because I stripped out all filth like Cortana, Modern Apps and Windows Store from the ISO prior to installation.

 

Thank you very much Mr. Fox for acknowledging my "monsterbook" and you are correctly assuming that i am complete noob and if it wasn't for @Phoenix i would not even own this machine, i had known about overclocking but my old laptop an ASUS had no option of any sort for overclocking and this is the first time i am experimenting with one and being helped all the way by @Phoenix fro which i am very grateful.

as to answer your question the dip is constant while the game is running and i mean not even the actual gameplay just in the menu and it adversely affected other games as i mentioned earlier like Mafia 3 and Quantum Break, the problem is only fixed with a proper restart and not playing GOW 4 at all.




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EVOC P775DM3-G 17.3"/ Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHZ / G-Skill Ripjaws DDR4 2800 MHZ RAM / Geforce GTX 1080 8.0GB GDDR5 Pascal / 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LG IPS LED Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD / 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive / Killer™ Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10 PRO

 

That GoW4 introduces the problem which does not exist without launching GoW4 first is interesting. Nothing amazing me with the incompetence of the Redmond Mafia.

I look forward to hearing if my suggestions affect the behavior in a positive way or make no difference.

 

Don't set max processor performance in balanced or own created power plan for windows. Only use the max performance power plan in Windows.. Some have encountered problems in all other power settings in Win Crap X.

 

Awesome, I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.

I ONLY use the "High performance" power management plan in all versions of Windows. I'd like to find a tweak or registry hack to delete the "Balanced" and "Power Saver" profiles so they don't even exist any more. I think you can use Group Policy Editor to permanently set some advanced defaults and lock them down, but that does not remove the other two power management plans. I would like to have no power management options of any kind, just everything always maxed out with zero power saving features available.

 

I'm still waiting on the key that is supposed to come with my 1080. Will test this for you, once I have it later this weekend.

 

I mean I have read that also @unclewebb said don't make your own power plan or use balanced settings with maxed processor speed. Same with all the crippled power tuning software from all ODM/OEM's!! Yeah, always use max performance in windows. Don't let the Redmond Morons tell you what to do. You don't save much energy by putting it in power saving

 

tried uninstalling Clevo Control Center then used ThrottleStop. No different. The moment the game launches, a demon takes over the machine and it stays at 2.5 GHZ until restarted so I am thinking it's that game itself. It even prompts him to have it updated yet the Microsoft Store always says error while downloading bla blast bla

 

The Redmond Morons should have used all their resources to create a functioning OS, and not mess with a web store and everything else trash. Look at the mess they've created the last 2-3 years. Nothing works as it should anymore. And they want 100% control over games and whatsoever they touch. See also the smartphone mess What a Joke!!

 

Windows 10 must be the portal for the Locust Horde. Sounds like a job for Marcus Fenix and The Coalition.

You may be right... probably is the game. Maybe a patch will fix it. It's very disturbing that the game would have the ability to affect hardware in this manner, so it must be demon-possessed software.

They almost never do anything right any more. They are an abject failure and everything they touch turns to crap now. This is a shame. Microsoft used to be awesome. The only thing that reminds me that they used to be good at what they do is when I choose Windows 7 from my boot menu.

 

Is this problem mentioned here? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/gears-of-war-4.796887/

If not, might be a good place to bring up the subject to see if more people experience it. Maybe it should not be assumed to affect only the P775DM3.

 

Can you post some ThrottleStop screenshots so I can see how you have the program setup? How about the main ThrottleStop window, the FIVR window and the TPL window.

My Lenovo laptop has a shady feature that disables Turbo Boost and drastically lowers the CPU MHz soon after a game begins. Many users don't realize that they have been shafted. Luckily, most of these bad ideas can be overcome.

 

Anything made by Microsoft = Alpha = 0 quality. I would never have a game or anything installed from that filth store no matter how much I liked a game.

Every single metro garbage app is uninstalled on my taptop

 

Just wait and see bro.. Micro$oft will help the whole hardware industry such as laptop manufacturers. They will Degrade the performance on your expensive hardware slowly but surely with unnecessary processes and forced not necessary apps pinned to the operating system (impossible to disable / remove.. You are screwed). So you have to invest in newer tech before you need. And everything is BGA!!! Welcome to the new bright future!! I'm glad I'm old!!

 

ive been playing this game on my notebook since thursday last week and its been running perfectly. runs completely fine on my desktop as well. only 2 issues ive had was the known bug in act 3 chapter 5 that has been fixed already and the couldnt install error when i tried to reinstall the game on my ssd (made my 2tb hdd run too hot) which i found out how to fix as well.

have you updated your gpu drivers and made sure all other drivers are up to date. (i know long shot but you never know)

 

I went and met @Phoneix yesterday and he helped me set up the system back to stock settings which 4.2Ghz on 1 core @4.00 Ghz on the rest cores and then i tested it while playing Mafia 3 and it was stable everything ran smoothly so in the end @Phoenix suggested to just leave the settings as it is for the time being till the Prema Bios is released for my system and i will do that and wait.


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I had pre-downloaded the entire game (Frikking 80GB) to my OS Drive which is an 256 GB SSD and was ready to play on the 11th and also played it a while but later i started experiencing the problems.

I have the latest NVIDIA drivers, the latest WIN 10 PRO updates installed.

Later when the update for GOW4 was released i tried to update it and then other problems started to appear but these problems are what many are experiencing using WIN Store to update, as i informed earlier i have an 256 SSD which is set up as my OS and WIN 10 already takes up a lot of space so afterwards when i tried to update the game WIN Store wants an extra 80 GB or space just to install the damn update so i uninstalled it and cleared up exactly 160 GB of space and am currently downloading the game and will see what happens when the download has completed.

Hopefully i can install it and start playing it again and will later update on my progress.


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If you still cannot get the game update to work try these methods in this video:

The first method in the video fixed the issue for me. It looks like your cpu was never working correctly according to your benchmark. It shouldn't be all over the place like it was in yours. I have a desktop but the same processor and this was my result. I am running the i7 at stock speeds. Are you sure your cpu isn't throttling from high temps?

 

I think so that the throttle only happens when the temperatures are very high but unfortunately right now i am downloading the game so i cannot do the benchmark and check the temperatures for GOW4.

I will post an update when i get the game working again, also your system has a GTX 980 Ti and the FPS are very high but mine has a GTX 1080 (Mobile) so the frame rates are lower.


17.3"/ Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHZ / G-Skill Ripjaws DDR4 2800 MHZ RAM / Geforce GTX 1080 8.0GB GDDR5 Pascal / 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LG IPS LED Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA G-SYNC Technology / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD / 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive / Killer Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10 PRO

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Shakeeb Anjum

 

GOW4 has downloaded and updated successfully and i am currently playing it for nearly an hour and everything is running smoothly without any lags, stutters and core clock speed fluctuations. I think something was conflicting in WIN 10 while playing the game so i went ahead and deleted any games i had currently installed on my laptop and reinstalled only GOW4 which is playing like a dream right now.

If G-Sync is tuned off i am getting insanely high FPS of nearly 190 - 200 and if G-Sync is on then a stable 75 FPS and this is better than what i was seeing before when i tried to play the game on the 11th of October, the temperatures are actually below 70C while playing and that is astounding to see because till yesterday i was pestered with temperatures going as high as 92C but thanks to @Phoenix and his vast knowledge of overclocking he has found the perfect settings to achieve a stable 4.2GHZ with much cooler temperatures, hats off to him


17.3"/ Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHZ / G-Skill Ripjaws DDR4 2800 MHZ RAM / Geforce GTX 1080 8.0GB GDDR5 Pascal / 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LG IPS LED Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA G-SYNC Technology / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD / 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive / Killer Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10 PRO

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Shakeeb Anjum

 

Awesome bro! Finally! So it was that buggy game and I'm glad that after the update it's no longer an issue

Enjoy

 

Great news! It's always amazing to me how trash software can screw things up so much with good hardware.

 

You are absolutely correct, until now i was thinking that my new laptop has some hardware faults or maybe the CPU is not good but all this because of buggy software and that also is the Microsofts own operating system and their piece of crap store.


17.3"/ Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHZ / G-Skill Ripjaws DDR4 2800 MHZ RAM / Geforce GTX 1080 8.0GB GDDR5 Pascal / 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LG IPS LED Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA G-SYNC Technology / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD / 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive / Killer Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10 PRO

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Shakeeb Anjum

 

Whoa... i just stumbled across this. I was having issues with my oc settings that I posted about this in the 65xrs forums, but didn't connect the dots with GoW4. I just recently got my p650rs with the i7-6820hk and was trying to overclock it a bit today when I think I ran into the same problem as you. I pushed mine to 4.1ghz and it was fine yesterday.. but today was the 1st time I pulled up GoW4 and ran its in-game benchmark. After a couple times, it froze on me and I had to reset. It didn't dawn on me to check the clock speeds like you did and after stumbling across this I took a look at HWMonitor while I had GoW4 up and sure enough, it's core speeds are all over the place. Weird thing is, once I shut down GoW4 and restart, I haven't been able to have my CPU hit its overclocked speeds in any benchmark. This is actually my main problem since GoW crashed on me earlier in the day. Since then, it seems to top out at 3.2ghz with prime95. I've tried to run XTU and the benchmark scores I get are only 4 points more than stock settings. I'm gonna try uninstall the game and rerun everything again and see if that cleared it up.

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Did you update the game when prompted by Windows Store? Did you face any problems while updating?
I had to uninstall the whole game then reset the cache for Windows Store and then downloaded the game and with the help from @Phoenix i was able to get stable clock speed up to 4.00 GHZ, have been able to play the game continuously for more than 5 hours straight without any hiccups.
Just be sure to wipe any trace of the game from your computer then re-download it and try again.


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Shakeeb Anjum

 

@Shakeeb Anjum I am interested to know what temperatures ( CPU and GPU) do you average playing different games. The temps while playing GoW were impressive to be honest.

 

Temperatues for CPU & GPU respectively while playing any games average at about
65-70c -- 75-80c especially after @Phoenix helped me in achieving stable core clock of 4.2GHZ on 1 core and 4.0 GHZ on all cores.


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17.3"/ Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHZ / G-Skill Ripjaws DDR4 2800 MHZ RAM / Geforce GTX 1080 8.0GB GDDR5 Pascal / 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LG IPS LED Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA G-SYNC Technology / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD / 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive / Killer Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10 PRO

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Shakeeb Anjum

 

Why would you need to overclock to play Gears of War 4 or any other game? Stock CPU and GPU should deliver more than ample performance at 1080p as long as you are not using a game with NVIDIA Gameworks Crapworks enabled, in which case it is likely that nothing will perform correctly.

 

GoW4 was free and came with my laptop. It was more of a curious decision to see how it would affect it. In case you wondered, it went up from 39fps stock on 4k ultra to just under 50fps with cpu and gpu oc before crashing. Its the only game I have that comes with a benchmark of it's own. Other games I play are Total War Warhammer & Attila, Cities Skylines, Ark, and Fall out 4.

I uninstalled GoW4 and tried to run Prime again, cpu would still only stay stable at 3.2ghz, stock or oc. Maybe I gotta try wipe the cache in windows store or something. It's driving me nuts, was working fine before I ran GoW yesterday

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I didnt get any updates from windows yesterday regarding the game. Thing is, i downloaded it first Tuesday night, tried it to run it but got some error saying it couldn't sign in to Xbox Live account. Found the fix on youtube where I had to go into powershell and type in some lines to get it manually i think. I was finally able to log in but I didn't play Tuesday night, just made it to the menu and called it a night. Yesterday I ran it and tinkered and that's when I ran into these problems. =/ i gotta try wiping the cache from the windows store. No idea what to do if that doesn't work.

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One thing that helped me was that i uninstalled any game i had on my computer (Quantum Break, Mafia 3, Rise Of The Tomb Raider & Metro Redux) and even 3Dmark and then downloaded and installed GOW4 after that i updated it and then everything worked perfectly fine, i have played the whole campaign 3 times and then installed Shadow Of Mordor and i am currently playing that.
No problems.


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Shakeeb Anjum

 

Newer games can stress new parts of the hardware that would not be used before and so would not show up in testing.

 

@Mr. Fox @Phoenix , i have started to experience the same problem again but this time GOW4 works fine instead the core clock fluctautes while playing Rise Of The Tomb Raider attached is an image which shows the problem.

http://imgur.com/3OMeIbb

I had deleted all the games and just recently installed only Rise Of The Tomb Raider but this happened.

 

OMG @Mr. Fox you are a GENIUS , it never occured to me to just play the games without selecting OPTIMUL settings in Nvidia Geforce experience which is purely scrap and when i followed what you mentioned and turned off any settings in Nvidia Geforce Experience the game plays smoothly and here is an image to prove it

http://imgur.com/JvoAvkS

Man i would not know what the hell to do in situations like these if people like @Phoenix and @Mr. Fox were not there to help one miles away on the internet and the other near me when i need help.
hats off to both of you and other members also who want to learn and help other people.

 

Clevo Control Center has a retarded habit of changing the Windows Power Management to "Balanced" without permission. Be sure you are set to "High performance" and confirm your processor minimum and maximums are maxed out to 100% (see screen shot). You can also change the "Balanced" profile to max everything out the same so if CCC changes it that won't affect anything. (I never use Balanced or Power Saver profiles. Unfortunately, Windows will not allow those to be deleted.)

 

Awesome! You are welcome, friend. Glad it sorted things out for you. You're on the fast track to becoming an expert, bro. We all began our journey as a noob.

For some reason this idiotic world we live in is overrun by tree-huggers that believe "Optimal" means crippled to save energy consumption. I always view the term optimal as secret code word for sucky when it comes to computers.

A best practice is to find all settings relating to power management and either disable the power saving features or change the settings to maximum performance. There is no reason to make any effort whatsoever to conserve energy with a high performance notebook. We can leave that nonsense for tablet, ultrabook and chromebook jockeys to enjoy.

 

I am in Keif Cafe right now, please pass by and bring your laptop sI can fix it for you.

 

You are absolutely correct, why the hell should a person spend so much money on a high performace gaming laptop and because of some power consumption & efficiency settings that person cannot utilize the maximum power of the machine to play the games on high resoultion and ultra settings, when i have a beast why not unleash it's full potential.

i have each and every thing in the graphics menu cranked up till ultra and it run beautifully.

 

Thanks agian for your unflinching concern about the performance of my gaming laptop but i was able to fix the problem by following Mr. Fox's advice and disabling optimul settings in Nvidia Geforce Experience and everything works fine now.

i was wondering should i try to overclock the processor now only a little bit the way you taught me and see how it holds up as it is clear now that whatever problems i had with the fluctuating core speeds was created because of Nvidia Crapworks ?

 

yes sir, since you have deemed your laptop fine and stable now, go up to 4.4 GHz on all cores with a -70 to -60mV offset

but I prefer if you come to the cafe since we need to use Throttle Stop to set that same voltage offset for your Cache Ratio as well and give it a -10mV system agent offset (the total voltage across the board)