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    Got my np5792 but it is stuck at 59hz!!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Justin Credible, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. Justin Credible

    Justin Credible Notebook Guru

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    can't play bf2 without the stupid workarounds. the sparkle effect isn't a problem it is much more bearable than older lg screens.
     
  2. Justin Credible

    Justin Credible Notebook Guru

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    monitor id is lple400. anyone elses stuck at 59hz?
     
  3. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    wow, its stuck 1Hz off of 60 what the normal is. Big deal?
    My screen runs at 61.8Hz, because thats just how Samsung made it, I dont care.
    Remember 1 hz - 1 cycle per second, so one hz off is no big deal.
    If the screen is flashing in and out, than its a faulty graphics driver. Download a new graphics driver and all will be fine.

    K-TRON
     
  4. Justin Credible

    Justin Credible Notebook Guru

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    Maybe you had trouble reading my first post. I am well aware that lcd's don't actually refresh so it's not an issue with the 1hz. It's a pain in the tail to have to work around this with my favorite games! Keep your comments to yourself until you can read properly please.
     
  5. Justin Credible

    Justin Credible Notebook Guru

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    Google does nothing for me. Can anyone confirm if this is a Vista only problem or possibly explain it to me better? I don't want to install XP just to see if its a problem with vista. Anyone with the np5792 getting 60hz and if so whats the hardware id of your lcd?
     
  6. Aryantes

    Aryantes Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    I run XP 32-bit and Vista 64-bit on my 9262.

    On Vista, my display settings report 59hz.

    On XP, I can toggle between 59hz and 60hz.

    Can't say anything about the 5792 though.
     
  7. Donald@Paladin44

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    This has been discussed at length in the thread "NP9262 Arrived". Pay particular attention to posts #70 and #75 for good solutions.

    They will work on your NP5792 just as well as on the NP9262
     
  8. Gophn

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    Again... only the flawed Battlefield serious has any issues with LCD that do not have 60Hz.... which is pretty stupid.

    The easiest way to config (less than 30 secs to do) is:

    All BF2 config files are in "Documents and Settings\[username]\My Documents\Battlefield 2\Profiles\"

    the file " Video.con" is what you open.
    - change the refresh rate here:
    VideoSettings.setResolution 1280x960@59Hz

    That is all.

    More info here:
    http://www.tweakguides.com/BF2_7.html

    BF2 (and some other BF's) are the only ones that have "issues" with refresh. Newer and better games do not.
     
  9. Aryantes

    Aryantes Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Agreed, it is nothing to worry about.

    By the way, my monitor on my 9262 is also the LPLE400 - according to Everest.
     
  10. Garandhero

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    I had this problem... Searched for solutions for over a month when I had my Dell... There is nothing you can do to fix it... editing con files ect. ect.

    I had to send my dell back, and then I got a sager instead. Im sorry this happened to you, it was the bane of my life for a month.
    It wont work because its set below 60Htz... you can force bf2 to work at refresh rates above 60, but not below. So editing the cons does not work (trust me i tried everything)

    you can read my dilema here... http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2792391 it was a nightmare.
     
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    Garandhero, are you saying that what Gophn posted in #8 is wrong? If so, how do you know, and why do you think your information is better than Gophn's?
     
  12. Garandhero

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    Im 99.9% sure it is wrong. I play BF2 and FH2 in a tournament almost every single day, its my favorite game. I got my Dell Laptop with a 59 Hertz Screen, the same LPL400 monitor that JustinC mentioned. I tried everything, from hours online with tech support at dell emails to EA games, 2 screen replacements, editing every video.con file I could find, Re-installs, clean Vista installs, I even tried editing the registry keys for the Refresh Rate controllers. I dealt with it for almost 1 1/2 months searching vigorously for solutions, nada.

    I also tried the external monitor trick, you CAN play if you plug a external monitor in and use that as the game (main) screen, but to me that was just annoying, and you cant carry a external screen everywhere you go. But no matter what else you do, you cannot get BF2 or its mods to run on a screen that is locked at 59 hertz refresh rate. Ediitng the .con files unfortunatly only works if your refresh rate is higher than 60hertz.

    See BF2 is supposed to run at 60hertz, peoples whose screens are recognized as being below that are sol. so changing the .con file to read 59htz doesnt work either because BF2 doesnt know what that is and cant run that RR. those above 60, can edit the video.con files and play fine at any RR above 60hertz.


    Anyway.. thats that. Do all the google searches you want, and .con editing files.. unless you can somehow get your monitors refresh rate to change to 60 hertz it wont work. (unless u take a external monitor with you everywhere) I hate to be the bearer of bad news but thats just how it is... I also got a response from EA saying that they arent responsible for that sort of thing and they dont plan to support 59hertz anytime soon blah blah blah.
     
  13. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    OK here is another fix that many do not know... it works :)
    (tested under Vista... so should work for XP as well)

    - Download a driver from laptopvideo2go (newest version - in this version you can add custom resolutions).
    - Right click on desktop, then Nvidia settings (or go to Nvidia Control Panel).
    - go to Custom Resolutions or something under monitor.
    - then add your resolution with 60hz and click Test.
    - It should work.... and you can now choose 60hz in windows

    Enjoy... playing the flawed BF series. :D

    P.S. seriously though.. move on to newer games (or any other games for that matter) that does not have this issue.
     
  14. Garandhero

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    Would have to be the newest driver then, the 171.xx right.. because i tried all the way up to 169.28 when i had my dell and nothing like that was an option.
     
  15. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I tried it on my friend's M570RU with 59Hz.... I forgot exactly which driver... but it worked.

    As for my D900K with 61Hz, my video.con edit worked. :)
     
  16. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Oh... another solution is a simple one.

    Use WINDOW MODE. :)
     
  17. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    That doesn't get you "in the zone"...
     
  18. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    that could be true

    but I sometimes do that to talk on IRC. :)
     
  19. Matth3w

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    This doesn't work.
     
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    There is nothing to choose adding the resolution with 60hz refresh.
     
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    (bear with my typing on my iphone)

    I got 60hz refresh rate option by uninstalling my drivers booting in safe mode and then installing the laptopvideo2go drivers. So all good then, right? Wrong. Now the game starts but i get the blue screen o death now for nv4mini or something. Suggestions?
     
  23. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    BSODs are not supposed to occur due to refresh rate issues.

    You should really do a CHKDSK C: /F in Command Prompt to see if you have any HDD errors.

    And make sure you do not have any memory errors, by using MemTest86+.
     
  24. Wonderdog

    Wonderdog Notebook Guru

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    Hi guys,

    after much wailing and nashing of teeth, I have finally sorted out the vista/59hz issue on my LPLE400 Panel in my Clevo 570RU.

    Forget all the **** you are reading about changing config files, hacking drivers etc. Its all bull****, and at best, a fluke.

    To explain - the problem arises becuase of a combination of two factors - Windows Vista and flawed EDID information in the Panels BIOS. The EDID is a small inbuilt memory area within the panels circuitry, that holds some (supposedly) useful data about the panel that your OS can query - e.g. native resoltuion, power saving features, and most importantly for us - TIMING INFORMATION.

    Now the interesting part - while XP doesnt really give a hoot about the EDID data (you can instruct your video drivers to output any resolution or refresh rate you like and XP wont stop them, though the screen may not be able to cope) Vista ENFORCES them. So anyone who is giving advice based on thier experiences with XP - **** off now please :D

    Where you get problems are if the EDID information is incomplete or incorrect - as Vista will simply not allow you to "force" a video mode that you know your monitor can display, if the EDID tells it otherwise. There are god knows how many people on forums whinging that Vista will not output to thier HDTV in native resolution, whereas XP Media Centre used to. This is the same problem we're having here - bad EDID info.

    So - the only TRUE an PERMANENT way to solve the problem, regardless of what OS, video card or driver version you are using is to fix the EDID. Fortunately the EDID on the LPLE400 is not read only :D

    Using a combination of EDID editing tools (softMCSS, Phoenix EDID designer, Viewsonic EDID tool, Powerstrip) I have tweaked the EDID so that it defaults to 60hz rather than 59hz. I can now run Battlefield etc beautifully with no stupid workarounds.

    Here are the instructions on how to fix your LPLE400 permanently:-

    1) Download softMCCS (google it). Use this to view your current EDID. You'll see that the "preferred timing" of the LPL LPLE400 is 1920x1200 at 59Hz (thanks LG/Philips...). Use the "Save as" command to save a copy of your current EDID file to your desktop as a "Viewsonic EDID" file. This is your backup incase you make a mess of things!

    2) Download my tweaked EDID file from HERE If you look at it in softMCCS you see that the preferred timing is now 1920x1200 at 60hz - I did this by adjusting the timing components using the Viewsonic tool to fiddle around with the Hex values ***

    3) Get a registered copy of Powerstrip 3.77 (later versions may also work) from somewhere. The unregistered version disables the EDID update function. Use the EDID update function to upload the modified EDID file provided into to your panels BIOS.

    4) Restart (to be on the safe side).

    Unless you've made a spaz of things, Vista (or XP for that matter) should now report that your monitor now natively runs at 60hz (as it can/should) rather than ugly, useless, 59Hz :D . In the unlikely event you run into problems (screen not displaying etc) plug in an external monitor and use Powerstrip to reflash your backed up EDID.

    Thank you, and good night.

    *** You can do this yourself if you like to see how I fixed it, or it may help you if you have a different panel with similiar EDID vertical refresh issues. You need to tweak the "Vertical Blanking Time" of "Detailed Timing Set 1" (Hex cell 0/60 in Viewsonics EDID editor) to get the Vertical Refresh rate to 60hz rather than 59.17. Blanking time is actually a semi irrelevent value for TFT screens, as it is a legacy CRT setting... go figure). In the case of the LPLE400, the hex value is changed from 23 to 12, dropping the Blanking time from 35 to 18 lines, and shifting the Vertical refresh to 60hz!

    #Wonderdog
     
  25. NeoMass

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    Well, I am happy to announce that after almost two weeks I have found a solution for the Windows Vista 59Hz monitor refresh problem on Battlefield 2.

    I did try all the above suggested and even tried to overwrite my EDID...no good.

    Finally, deep in my frustration (and not even that interested in playing BF2 really, but I am too stubborn), I decided to inspect the profile files BF2 created (when I tested it on a different monitor to make sure the monitor was the problem and not BF2). I had fixed Battlefield Vietnam by copying my profile files from a working profile from a different computer but that solution failed on BF2.

    Anyway, I did find a "General.con" file which at the end contains a setting that called my attention: "GeneralSettings.setLCDDisplayModes 0"...mhhhh
    "I wonder what happens if I change it to 1?" I said to myself...et voila!!!!

    IT WORKED!!

    NOTE: after some experimenting I determined that enabling the "setLCDDisplayModessetting" alone is NOT enough, you also must have the LATEST nVidia drivers (I have "179.28_notebook_winvista_32bit_beta.exe" installed) which allow you to create custom resolutions. Then you need to create the 800x600x60Hz, 1024x768x60Hz, etc. The combination of custom resolutions and "setLCDDisplayModessetting" WORKS for me on Vista.

    I hope this helps others.

    FYI: my notebook is an HP Pavilion dv9700t (2.5Hz core duo, 4G of ram, Geforce 8600M), and my particular model came with a Samsung OEM LCD screen, PnP ID SEC4447, model LTN170WP-L02).
     
  26. zfactor

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    lol guys.. simply make a modded resolution in nvidia control panel and make it 60hz. then apply it. then go back to the resolution tab and set it to show non standard settings. restart this works for me every time. you just need to have a newer driver installed that allows custom resolutions.