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    Gtx 990m is a gtx 980? And new Clevo P870DM and P775DM

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Frenley, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. Frenley

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    I'm more of a person who goes online and likes to read than post my personal opinions, but I've been waiting for this moment for a very long time and had to share.. I knew I was going to buy some form of Clevo based laptop for the consumer version of VR so I can share the experience with friends and family. I hope this gets you excited as am now. Enjoy.





     
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    Welcome to the forum!

    It's exciting to see what was announced today, and will be even better once they are available. I think a lot of people are happy to see this as an option in notebooks now, and to see the gap compared to desktop performance narrowed by another big step. I think there is a good amount of people out there that will appreciate the improvements to VR on a notebook as well too. Good stuff.
     
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    Meh. Get dual 980m's in SLI, and that is worth about 1.5 GTX 980's and no real worries about overheating.
     
    caelric, Sep 22, 2015
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    I hope they'll be MXM . . . maybe we can SLI them too . . .
     
    aarpcard, Sep 23, 2015
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    Optimus or not?
     
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    Then no way, not for me. 980 has no full hardware h.265 en/decode.
     
    littlecx, Sep 23, 2015
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    Why would you want that? x264, x265 is superior. MediaCoder uses NVENC h.265 with Maxwell GPUs but limited to two encode sessions per system. Still inferior quality.

    http://forum.mediacoderhq.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13184&start=10
    Quality from best to worst
    x264 veryslow 2pass > x265 medium > NVENC H265 ≥ x264 medium > NVENC H264
     
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    Very excited indeed. Just wondering now which would be better, gtx 980 like shown in the videos or gtx 980m sli with nvidia's show case on each gpu rendering each eye individually.. Kid in a candy store is me...
     
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    Absolutely agree on the "kid in a candy store" part! :D
     
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    We will have to see how well they get sli working in vr setups. If you do get a nice decrease in latency it may be the way to go.
     
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    Absolutely, I'm looking forward to see actual comparisons for VR on dual sli 980m P870DM and 980 P775DM. Also eager to see what the community does with external gpu's and how well they run consumer VR on TB3.
     
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    It've been a long while since we saw some details about Clevo P870dm, but I wonder if you can provide something more about another Clevo laptop P775dm. You know, not everyone can afford a laptop with sli.
     
    RitianZhao, Sep 28, 2015
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    It's been a long while since we saw details about P870DM, but you know, not everyone would aford a laptop with sli which is too huge, so ,I wonder if you can give something more about another Clevo laptop with GTX980, P775DM.
     
    RitianZhao, Sep 28, 2015
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    Yeah, especially the price... Wonder if the full gtx 980 laptops will be priced higher than the sli 980m's. If that's the case I may go 6700k and single 980m. I also have no desktop and the price per dollar for desktop power is making the wait so difficult lol.
     
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    I'm sorry but I just wanna ask what do you mean Optimus? Can you spell it out for me, because my English is not very well.
     
    RitianZhao, Sep 29, 2015
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    Optimus is a feature in computers where it will switch which GPU its using automatically depending on what you are doing. It will use the dedicated card for more demanding things like gaming, or the Intel HD GPU for basic stuff like internet. This helps with battery time, heat, power consumption etc.
     
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    The GTX 980 is more expensive than SLI 970M but cheaper than SLI 980M by a margin! GTX 980 also beats SLI 980M performance, so unless you intend to overclock SLI 980M then you will have better performance and more cash in your pocket by going for a single GTX 980 ;-)
     
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    Only if SLI doesn't work
     
    octiceps, Sep 29, 2015
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    Wow, sounds promising. Thanks for the info!
     
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    Any information on the 4k screens with g-sync on the 17 inch models? I'm the kind of person who likes to keep things for a very long time and would love to have the option for 4k once the content becomes the standard. I still use a ipad 1 which I've had for 5 years, leather jacket I've had for 7 and a backpack I've had for 10..
     
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    The benchmarks I have show that a single GTX 980 beats SLI 980M. I didn't create these benchmarks, but that's what they show ;-) Prema and others stated similar in another thread.

    No problem at all!
     
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    Those are overclocked 980M results and they're done in a P570WM, which has a 6-core extreme X79 based CPU. They're also done by @johnksss :p well the ultra and extreme preset

    Overclock that 980 in the P870DM and then we'll see ;)
     
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    Yes even at stock 980M sli would be faster, it has 3072 total cores vs 2048. Can't replace cores with clock speed.

    Point is, the 980 should overclock nicely, probably higher than 980M. It probably still won't beat it, but it should be decent considering it's one gpu vs two.

    Also like you said, if SLI isn't supported for an application, the 980 would be much faster, so for people who want the fastest single card config, the 980 will be the way to go.

    I'm curious as to what benchmarks @XMG has where the 980 is beating SLI 980M though.
     
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    I didn't "believe" it, I was presented with figures which I had no reason to doubt at the time. I also said that they weren't my or our benchmarks and if it's wrong then don't blame the messenger, as I said they aren't our figures.

    The link to techinferno says that inFirestrike, SLI 980M is double the performance of a single desktop GTX 980 (graph ficures vs Prema's SLI 980M figures). The deduction from this would be that a single 980M is the same performance as a single desktop GTX 980 which we know isn't true.

    @ssj92 - figures from a while ago, I can't say what the source is. We will have real world figures to compare with before too long and I can get figures from one of our Rogue PCs to match.
     
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    The 980M was overclocked. However, stock 980M SLI is still faster than 980.
     
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    Maybe there was a typo in the figures and they were comparing it to SLI 970M, who knows.
     
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    This, although that is only true on games where SLI is working ;)
     
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    the 980 beats a single 980M by approximately 30-35%, as proven by benchmarks from notebookcheck. i can get to within 6-10% of stock 980 levels with my 980M when i overclock it by 20%, so yeah, those figures make sense ;) 980M SLI definitely beats a single 980, stock or otherwise!

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Thank you so much, I'll do more practice on my English LOL
     
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    Sorry but I want to ask what do you mean 'by a margin'? You mean 'by a wide margin'?or 'to some extent'? Sorry, my English is not very well :)
     
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    We can't talk about exact prices just now ;)
     
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    iirc a 25% premium over equally specced 980M machines was rumoured for the 980

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    It is roughly €300 / £217 more than SLI 970M which puts it at just under €400 / £291 less than 980M. USD prices may be different and it will vary company to company as per usual.
     
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    $3-3.5k or €3k for a 6700K - GTX 980 model...
    I actually don't get it. For $80 more you can buy 980m SLI in MXM format, what's going on?
     
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    If it isn't linked to on their main site then perhaps their pricing isn't finished.......$350-$400 upgrade price is what I would expect it to be based on the pricing we have.
     
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    Also prices can vary by region.
     
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    Sorry~ what do you mean "stock"?
     
    RitianZhao, Oct 3, 2015
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    Stock means that I haven't touched it, yet. :D
    No, it means "default speed/values" without overclocking. ;)
     
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    Lol I think you quoted the wrong person ;)
     
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    LOL, I didn't actually hit quote at all, must have still been in the cache from yesterday...
     
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    Happened to me all the time too. I turned off the rich text editor lol.
     
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    Thank you for your explaination, that helps a lot! LOL
     
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    Sorry, my English is not very well, so I just cannot get your point :( Could you please paraphrase the second sentence for me? What do you mean"turned off the rich text editor "? :D
     
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    Rich text editor is an option for the forum here. You can change that in your account preferences to turn it on or off. It gives some added options for creating and editing posts on the forum here, but I think it also saves drafts and a couple things like that which make it easy to screw up posts. I know I've done that at least a couple times before.
     
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    Could you provide some more information about P775DM or something to do with the date P775DM would come out. I've been waiting for a long time since these videos were published. Today, P870DM will soon be on sell, but it's hardly to find any details of P775dm. Will it be released before Christmas? And how much will it approximately charge? Thank you a lot! LOL
     
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    head over to the batman 2.0 owner's lounge, the p775dm is the current hot topic over there including pics, release date and build details ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Thank you so much, I'll just go and see!
     
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