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    HDMI connection on M860tu

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Gunsmith_Cat, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. Gunsmith_Cat

    Gunsmith_Cat Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi all,

    I'm looking to play HD movies via my M860tu onto a HDTV. Just wondering what lead is best to buy to do this. I'm confused with all the HMDI to DVI cable talk, and I know the laptop has a HDMI port... I know that HDTV's have a HDMI port too, so would this mean I should buy a HDMI to HDMI cable?

    I haven't bought a HDTV yet but I do have a HD Ready TV (more confusion). Would a HD Ready TV still playback a HD movie in full 1080p? "HDMI", "HD Ready TV", and "HD TV" is confusing me a lot!

    Help!
     
  2. EdiT808

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    Do this and check your tv

    Does your TV have a HDMI port? If yes then you can use a HDMI cable. No need for a DVI cable Unless your TV has a DVI Port which i kind of doubt then you can go with a DVI to DVI cable or DVI to HDMI cable because the M860tu supports both HDMI AND DVI.

    Even if your TV supports HDMI it doesnt always mean it can go up to 1080P some can only do 720P so check your user manual or check the manufacturers website from where your tv was made.

    All the acronyms of HDTV HD ready TV really means the same thing the only difference is the support of the tv being able to handle 720P or 1080P

    Prime example i have 2 HDTV flat screens both have HDMI ports one can do a max rez of 720P and a max rez of 1080i (but cant support 1080P) the other tv can do up to 720P/1080i/1080P. In other words what matters is look for a TV that can support 1080P and you are pretty much OK!
     
  3. Sabin17

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    So you're looking for an HDTV? Most have HDMI ports already, so an HDMI to HDMI will suffice. Just connect the cable between the two devices and you should be ready to go. For me, sometimes it won't register so I'll need to put my 8660 into sleep mode and back on. Make sure you also set audio to digital output so you can get sound from your TV set instead of through the notebook.

    If you want full 1080p I suggest you buy a TV that supports that resolution. There are HDTVs that go up to 720p and there are ones that go up to 1080p.
     
  4. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Cheers for the replies so far. It looks like I'll be adding a full 1080p HDTV to my wish list. Maybe then I can finally get to play the 60hz XBox 360 games that I can't currently play on my 50hz TV. :(
     
  5. ArmageddonAsh

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    remember if you go for DVI to HDMI then you wont get sound as DVI only delivers video, but if you havent got the TV yet, then you will most likly get atleast 1 HDMI socket,my brothers 42inch has 4, god knows why though, it seems a bit pointless
     
  6. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Glad to be of help gunsmith you will like your machine and your brand spankin new tv that will support 1080p ha.
     
  8. Clyzm

    Clyzm Notebook Evangelist

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    That TV is 720p, which is a high definition television.

    To clear up some confusion:

    Full HD: A 1080p television (1920x1080 resolution)

    High definition: A 720p/1080i television (1366x768 resolution)

    HD ready: Likely 480p, but accepts component and HDMI connections (720x480 resolution on widescreen, 640x480 on standard screen. will support input from a higher resolution, but will only DISPLAY 480p)



    Just a small crash course, and if anyone else has TV questions in this thread, I sell them as a part time job, and I'm pretty good at it, so don't hesitate to ask me.
     
  9. livesoft

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    Just get a cheap HDMI cable and plug both in :p You get the image and the sound in one cable. As simple as it sounds (now just dig into the settings to output the sound through HDMI)
     
  10. MrFong

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    If I'm not mistaken, HD-Ready TVs display at 720p or 1080i. A TV that displays at 480p isn't even HD-Ready... it's just plain ole SD.
     
  11. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Some people are telling me that HD Ready TV's need an extra signal box or something in order to play full HD. But if the resolution is set at a certain rate, then I don't see how HD Ready can be made to be Full HD.
     
  12. Clyzm

    Clyzm Notebook Evangelist

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    Any television that is able to properly display a 720p signal is a high definition television.

    The reason they say HD ready is because the set will readily accept a high definition input, but not display it in high definition.

    A true HD screen will display a 720p/1080i signal because its actual panel is 720p/1080i, whereas an HD-Ready TV's screen will accept a 720p/1080i/1080p input, but will only display 480p.



    A television cannot be 'made' to be full HD or even HD if it isn't. It's a panel limitation. Think of it as a computer monitor; a 1680x1050 max resolution monitor will not display a 1920x1200 resolution, no matter what you throw at it. However, it DOES have the potential to take a 1920x1200 image and scale it down to 1680x1050. That's what HD-Ready televisions do, they take a high definition image (720p and up), and scale it down to 480p via processing for its inferior panel to display.


    This has been how the term has been used for a long time now in the actual market. But yes, as an actual DEFINITION of the term, it's any television that is able to accept or display a high definition (720p and up) image. Be aware, that in the actual market, this has been used as a marketing scheme for televisions that arn't really high definition televisions. As I posted earlier, most advertised HD-Ready televisions are indeed 480p televisions that will accept a higher resolution input and then scale it down.

    Having said all this, HD-Ready televisions these days are pretty much a rarity. They used to be the lower end, about two years ago, but these days that low end is the 720p television. There is absolutely no reason to purchase, or even look at an 'HD-Ready' television anymore.



    In simplest terms really, lets put it this way:

    If a 720p television is considered to be 'High Definition', and an HD-Ready television is technically defined as one that can 'process or display' a 720p or higher signal, then why in the world would ANYONE say 'HD-Ready' versus 'High Definition' when they mean the same thing....unless they have something to hide about their television (the fact that it only processes a 720p, but displays lower than that).
     
  13. OmegaATL

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    The term "HD Ready" means that it supports HD resolutions (720P/1080i/1080P), but it does not have a built in HD tuner.
     
  14. yukon

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    Hi Guys,
    I was going to start a new thread but thought I might as well post my question here. Yesterday was my first time connecting my M860TU to my Samsung 52 inch LCD full HD TV via the HDMI cable, and something weird happened...the picture displayed on the TV but the corners are not visible, now I entered the Nvidia panel and played around with the settings but I could not find anything for resizing as I usually found in my previous laptops. Does anyone know where I can find the tab or control panel that can decrease the length and width of the picture? I tried changing the resolution but that didn’t help at all.
     
  15. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Is it in that Windows preferences pop up where you can see your laptop screen's resolution and mess with it? There is an option to scale the resolution down there, so maybe you need to select the secondary screen and do a bit of fiddling? If you have hooked the laptop up to another sourc it should recognise and external monitor and give you a new screen to adjust and play with. Other than that, I don't know, sorry. :S
     
  16. yukon

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    That's what I did I tried lowering the resolution on the second screen and I tried making the second screen the main screen. I even tried making the HDTV my primary source and canceling the dual screen thing with no luck. I recall on my previous laptops the ability to reduce the length and width of the external display but I can't seem to find that option here.
     
  17. oile

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    HD READY : input 720p , 1080i and ALSO OUTPUT 720p & 1080i (480p output??? LOL)
    FULL HD: 720p, 1080i & 1080p
    i=interlaced , p=progressive

    Prevalent standards DVI or HDMI (video + audio in v.1.3)

    I invite all the guys in this thread (you seem to have very confusing ideas!) to read wikipedia and google..
     
  18. yukon

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    Dude I know the difference between HD READY and FULL HD my tv is FULL HD 1920x1080 otherwise known as 1080p. I run both the Sony PS3 and my xbox 360 at 1080P, for some reason the M860TU does not display correctly with the corners out of view. The resolution on the M860TU is shown as 1920x1080 so I don't know of anyway of solving this problem :(
     
  19. PhoenixFlare500

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    Perhaps instead of trying to change the computer's settings you could change some settings on your TV. Could be worth a shot.
     
  20. Johnksss

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    it has to do with flat panel scaling. usually under the video and television section. it allows you to drag the screen size to the correct length and height
     
  21. yukon

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    Ok update regarding this subject and to people who are experiencing the problem I stated earlier. I have solved the problem, after taking my M860TU and hooking it up to a completely different FULL HD (1980x1080 or 1080p)set I found the same problem so I sat down and started to fiddle with every setting I can find trial and error to be exact. Finally I found the solution, basically if you plan to connect your M860TU to a full HD TV via the HDMI cable you would have to do the following, right click on your desktop and select NVIDIA control panel, once opened head to the section that allows you to select the different screens options i.e. LCD (M860TU own screen) or HDTV ( usually this is displayed as your TV set brand in my case it showed as SAMSUNG), you will find a number of options one asking you whether you want dual view (mirror mode) or single display and finally an option called configure each monitor separately (this is the one you need to click on). Once you click on the last option...surprise a new option shows up on the left called HDTV settings (it’s the last one on the list) there you can find the options needed to resize the image on the TV to display the corners correctly.
     
  22. Heliosvector

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    i have been using my HD ready tv with my M860tu and its fine. Its HDMI to HDMI, but for some reason the sound doesnt go through. I dont mind though as i just plug my soundsystem into the headphone jack and it works fine. Maybe its because im using the TV as a second monitor and just drag the video across.
     
  23. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Hi Helios... In the manual that comes with the M860tu it states that the 9800 GT card won't send sound out via a HDMI lead and says you will have to send sound out by another method. That's the paragraph I read and that's the reason I wanted to start this thread becuse I was wondering why.
    Any tips on what lead I would need to output sound then? I don't have a seperate sound system... I'll just be having a HDTV set.
     
  24. yukon

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    Hi Guys sorry got busy and couldn't check the forums for awhile, anyway Gunsmith your information is incorrect you can play sound of M860TU through the HDMI cable that's what I have been doing for awhile now. All you need to do is go to the control panel, then on the sound options click manage sound devices and choose the other option there called Realtek HD and set it as the default device (I'm not at home now or I would give you the correct name).

    There you have it both of you now will have sound coming out of the HDMI cable.

    Enjoy :)
     
  25. Gunsmith_Cat

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    I guess they need to update the Clevo manual then, because giving us incorrect info like that makes us spend money needlessly!

    I think there's an option for Digital Sound Output or something like that. I assume that's what you meant?
     
  26. yukon

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    Yes Realtek Digital Output :)