HIDEV EVOC P870DM3 with dual 1080's - QHD or 4K panel?

Hi folks

My first post here but a long time lurker. I am looking to pull the trigger on a EVOC P870DM3 (HIDevolution).

It will have dual 1080 GTX GPUs, the silicon lottery 6700K, 64 Gb of G.SKILL ram.

What I need some advice on is - do I pick the QHD or the 4K panel? What are the pros and cons of each?

Thanks!

 

Welcome! I went with the 2560x1440p 120hz g sync panel. It just shipped last night, but my reasoning is on a 17" screen 1440p vs 4k is probably tougher to notice than double the refresh rate. 4k 60 hz vs 1440p at 120 hz with gsync. I'm glad I went with hidevolution. 5 posts on this forum is the minimum you need to get $30 off your EVOC, btw. @Donald@HIDevolution took great care of me through the whole process. Exciting time for you!

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I just received the laptop you want. see:
Ordered an EVOC P870DM3 from HIDevolution

Go with the 3K screen. First of all, it has a 120 hz screen vs the 4K 60hz screen so it's super fluid and smooth. It also has a 5ms response time so it's the best for gaming as you won't see any screen tearing.

Last but not least, is that with the 3K you can run it @ 100% DPI Scaling and it's still readable. This way, you won't have to deal with the crappy Windows DPI scaling which sometimes doesn't scale well with some programs and/or games

It took me about an hour for my eyes to adjust to the new resolution of 1440P vs my older 1080p display but once you get used to it, you wouldn't even feel that it's small. with the 4K screen if you set it to 100% DPI scaling you'll need to buy a magnifying glass to see anything.

Note that when you first boot into Windows 10, it applies a 150% DPI scaling by default, just change that to 100% and sign out then sign in and start getting used to the new size. No more headaches with DPI Scaling.

What do I mean by crappy Windows 10 scaling? See this:

• Windows 10 DPI Fix

although there is a fix, I would still prefer a 3K screen to have everything working without the need for 3rd party tools and again, the 120hz refresh rate IMHO is a must these days

don't forget to contact [email protected] to get your NBR forums discount for your new machine

let me know if you have any other concerns

you will receive the Prema BIOS/VBIOS soon as soon as it's released for FREE


Benefits of Prema BIOS:

• The ability to disable other drives connected to your system without physically removing them from your laptop, this comes in handy when installing Windows as you never want to have more than one drive connected at the time you are installing Windows otherwise the Windows setup will place the boot files on the 2nd drive it sees which hurts performance and makes it a headache when creating system images or restoring since the boot files are not on the main drive.
• The ability to overclock, increase Turbo Power Limits and System IA/Core Current Limits
• The ability to enable Intel Speed Shift Technology (it is disabled in the stock BIOS)
• The ability to run RAM with speeds higher than the standard 2133 MHz. I am not talking about overclocking here, I am talking about actual RAM sticks that are rated to run at 2800 MHz for example like the G.Skill 64GB 2800 MHz kit I have. With the stock BIOS, they will not run above 2400 MHz. In the case of the P870DM3, the stock BIOS now supports up to 2666 MHz. I believe but not more, so the Prema BIOS is a must again
• The ability to enable CSM for those who want to install other OSes like Windows 7
• The ability to undervolt the CPU as the stock voltage is way too high which causes the CPU to overheat much quicker and thus throttle under load.
• The ability to enable or disable CPU AES instructions or Virtualization
• The ability to disable hibernation from the BIOS

Benefits of Prema VBIOS:

• Power throttle disabled
• Over-voltage slider enabled and adjusted (up to a maximum of 1.2v)
• Activated and adjusted thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)
• Core overclock slider limit raised
• Power consumption meter activated
• Fixed 3D voltage base-line in order to stabilize OCs and voltage-match both cards in SLI systems (based on average ASIC)
• Thermal protection @ 92c (once*91c are breached the system throttles volts and clocks in order to protect it)
• Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (AVOID those software even with stock vBIOS)!

 

Thank you both for the advice! I actually was reasoning along more or less the same lines as you - that the higher refresh rate would be better. I originally plumped for 4K in my config but then began to wonder.

I am dealing with Donald as well, who has so far been very helpful. He did mention the discount in our interactions - let's see if I can get to 5 posts ;-)))

I'm very excited indeed. Thanks again to both your thoughts and also to Phoenix for your detailed notes.

 

once you order your machine, please make a post like all of us in the Reseller Feedback Forum so we can track the progress and do tag me when you get it if you want me to login to your system via TeamViewer and help you tweak it, undervolt the CPU for lower temps and highest clocks possible.

I highly recommend you go for the factory delidded 6700K Silicon Lottery CPU, it's a bit more expensive but trust me, you will save yourself a lot of hassle getting a CPU that has been pre-tested to operate at lower temps and thus, giving you a higher stable overclock like me, see my 4.6GHz 24/7 overclock / temps:

 

Hi Phoenix

Thank you so much for that kind offer - I will very likely take you up on it.

I plan to order this weekend - tonight or tomorrow - and will post the config in the reseller feedback forum as you suggest. I need to get the laptop before the 16 December and as such I will opt for a rush build. I will definitely go for the silicon lottery delidded 6700K - it was, in fact, some of your earlier posts that convinced me to go this route. ;-)

Thanks for the support - what a great forum.

 

Great bro! do things right from the get go rather than playing the Russian roulette, receiving a bad overheating 6700K, then have to go with a return or pay more for an upgrade which is time consuming.

Be Smart, be like Phoenix

 

This is what I've basically settled on:

EVOC P870DM3 17.3" Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop w/ 1x or 2x GTX 1080
17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology
DUAL NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 X (Desktop version), 200W - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled w/ Unlocked Prema vBIOS - Latest Updated Version once available - Contact us for details - €984.11
Prema Custom BIOS
Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested, Factory Overclocked 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6700K Quad Core Processor, 4.0 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.4GHz), 8MB Smart Cache
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface + IC Diamond on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU
64GB (4 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series Dual Channel DDR4/3000MHz
M.2 SSD Slot 1 (supports PCIe or SATA)
HIDevolution Approved 1TB M.2 SATA 6Gb/s SSD
M.2 SSD Slot 2 (supports PCIe and SATA)
HIDevolution Approved 1TB M.2 SATA 6Gb/s SSD
1st 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
2nd 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive
Intel® Wireless-AC 8260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2
Genuine Windows® 10 Home, 64bit, English
2x 330W with Converter Box (660W Total) AC Power Adapters (support 100-240V)
Foster Audio Speakers x 2
Anti-Ghosting, Custom Macro Back-lit Gaming Keyboard
Keyboard Language
U.S. English
EVOC Logo on LCD Cover and Bezel

 

please send this and add it to your customer notes:

"Just to be clear, I want Liquid Ultra between the CPU Die and IHS, IC Diamond between the IHS and Heatsink, IC Diamond on the GPU(s), The CPU, and both GPUs should be pasted using the X Cross Method"





Others may dis-agree but from my personal experience, IC diamond between the IHS (Integrated Heat Spreader) and the heatsink is best because IC Diamond is thicker so it makes better contact / heat dissipation with the Heatsink. Liquid Ultra is a must between the CPU Die (the actual small CPU chip) and the heatsink

 

Thank you sir! I will do.