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    HIDevolution Process

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Nuggarooski, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    Figured I should give a brief writeup of my experience so far with HIDevolution. @Ted@HIDevolution and @Donald@HIDevolution have been a great help in my choice to go with them.

    I initially contacted Ted a couple of weeks ago after reading about the P870TM1 on NBR. I gave him a laundry list of questions via email and he responded to the best of his ability. I wasn't using the best terminology, as I am a bit out of touch with the industry. My MacBook Pro made me lazy, not much else to say on that. He was still able to read between the lines.

    Both Ted and Donald were great, not pushy, and provided me with great info and advice, actually arguing for and against additional features. Normally I hate sales people. I applaud both for not perpetuating the stereotype.

    Anyway, I just purchased a P870TM1 and I am really looking forward to testing it out. Really the only concern I have is the keyboard. Good thing most controllers don't depend on that. I am also looking forward to configuring this to what I am looking for. Thanks to all of those that have experimented and shared.

    What should be my first steps when it arrives? Pretty sure I will be doing the steps suggested by @Ultra Male, but you all seem to have a ton of great info so lay it on!

    I will try to keep this updated as the build progresses. Hopefully this will contribute to help others out!

    10/8/18 - Placed order online after talking with Ted and he hooked it up with a NBR discount.
    10/9/18 - Jenny called to confirm that I was a real person. Confirmed.
    10/10/18 - Parts and Unit ordered! Some expected to arrive 10/12/18.
    10/16/18 - Emailed Ted to get a status update and ask a question. He responded the same day and told me the build would be started on 10/18 and would hopefully ship on 10/19 if all goes well! Thanks Ted!
    10/17/18 - My build is in production. Looks like it is a day early!
    10/22/18 - Windows installed and custom profile made. Spoke with Zoltan he informed me it should be shipping soon.
    10/22/18 - Got a tracking number! It should be here Thursday!!
    10/23/18 - FedEx is telling me Friday...
    10/25/18 - One state away...sooo close!
    10/26/18 - And it's here!!! Holy crap this thing is a beast. Everything is looking good so far! Now to configure everything. Cortana is already being annoying, right upon powerup!
     
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  2. BrightSmith

    BrightSmith Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for sharing your experience.

    Perhaps this should be moved to the reseller feedback subforum?
     
  3. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah I supppose that would be a better spot for this. Still working my way around the site.
     
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  4. Latostno

    Latostno Notebook Guru

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    Wonder if your order arrived, what do you think about it? Really want to hear your opinions because I'm going to order a similar laptop from HIDevolution soon.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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  5. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    No changes from what I posted yet. Hoping to see progress when they open up on Monday.
     
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  6. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sooooooo.... @Ultra Male ... Are you willing to help out with tweaks? I am going through the windows tweaks threads and I'm not exactly sure where to even start with that pile of trash OS. lol
     
  7. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Sure, PM sent
     
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  8. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    Big Big thanks to @Ultra Male !!! The amount of time that you put in to help me out is amazing. To have done your tweaks myself would have taken literally days upon days.

    First impressions...

    THIS THING IS MASSIVE. Like won't fit in a normal backpack massive. It took me awhile to look for it, but the best "case" I found that was slim is a backpack made by WiWu:

    17.3 Inch Convertible Laptop Backpack - WIWU Multi Functional Travel Rucksack Water Resistant Knapsack Work School College Backpacks for Men and Women, Business Backpack fit 17 inch laptops

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075L7S9LR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    It fits perfectly and has room for both power bricks and cables. Slight padding, not super high quality, but it should work well for it's purpose. Best thing is it's a backpack, otherwise this thing will hurt you if you carry it like a briefcase.

    I have been playing Metro Redux, so far so good. The hottest temp so far has been 61, which was during a period of several hours of gaming.
     
  9. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I wanted to give an update to anyone interested... I am still happy with it, as it performs wonderfully. There has been slight crashing of games, but I guess that is a normal thing for some of them. Talos Principle, Metro Series, and a few others have run great aside from random issues. I did get stuttering in Talos, but a reset of the computer did the trick.

    The only downsides of this build are the backlight bleed and the keyboard. The keyboard is just as everyone else has said, it is garbage. In order to type, you have to hammer the keys. The backlight bleed is normal according to HID, but I was still surprised at how noticeable it is. My 2010 Mac has a better screen! The Dell laptop I have for work also has a better screen.

    Good news is that there have been no other issues! At some point I will upgrade the screen, but for now I am used to it. Anyway, hope this thread has helped anyone looking to get one!
     
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  10. Latostno

    Latostno Notebook Guru

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    Hello, I'm so sorry to bring this up again, may I have your detail build list?

    Sent from my MIX 3 using Tapatalk
     
  11. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    EVOC High Performance Systems P870TM1 17.3" Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop w/ 1x or 2x GTX 1080
    LCD Panel
    17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz~9ms IPS-level 72% NTSC Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology
    Display Calibration
    Minimize LCD Backlight Bleed
    Display Warranty
    Video Card
    DUAL NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 X 200W + Vapor Chamber Dual GPU Heat Sink - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled
    Prema Custom BIOS
    Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version
    Processor
    HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted, and Overclocked 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8700K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 4.7 GHz (HIDevolution OC'd to 4.8GHz)
    Thermal Interface Materials
    Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces
    Memory
    HIDevolution Approved Standard 16GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (2 x 8GB) - installed by HIDevolution
    RAID Options
    no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd & 3rd drives as storage drives)
    M.2 SSD Slot 1 (supports PCIe or SATA)
    Samsung 970 EVO 250GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,500 MB/s Write
    M.2 SSD Slot 2 (supports PCIe and SATA)
    None
    M.2 SSD Slot 3 (supports PCIe ONLY)
    None
    1st 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
    1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
    2nd 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
    Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter)
    Wireless Cards
    Killer™ Wireless-AC N1535 802.11 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English - $130.00
    Operating System Reinstallation Media
    OS Reinstallation + Drivers USB Flash Drive - $25.00
    Office Software
    None
    Audio
    Foster Audio Speakers x 2
    Back-lit Gaming Keyboard
    Anti-Ghosting, Custom Macro Back-lit Gaming Keyboard
    Keyboard Language
    U.S. English
    Branding
    No Logo on LCD Cover and Bezel
    Warranty and Service
    3 Year HIDevolution Limited U.S. Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical - $300.00
    HIDevolution Limited Global Warranty
    NONE
     
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  12. Latostno

    Latostno Notebook Guru

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    Interesting, I see that you have IPS with all LCD options checked and it's still not so great according to your previous posts. Can you explain more and with a photo should be cool?

    Sent from my MIX 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'd love to know as well. Is the screen not that great and would the 3k screen be better?
     
  14. Nuggarooski

    Nuggarooski Notebook Enthusiast

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    I highly recommend getting a higher resolution screen. I have extremely good vision, but my 17" 1080 macbook screen from my mid2010 screen is noticeably better. I can see the individual pixels on this one, especially on diagonals. As far as a picture, I don't have one and really couldn't take one accurately at this time. The issue is primarily edge bleed, more noticeable at points where the panel was secured.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    1080 is 1080, the pixel pitch wont be that different. You may just be picking up on something macos antialiases.
     
  16. Danishblunt

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    uhhhhhhhhhh?
    No it's not normal to crash in games.

    Also yes, the panel you have is quite meh. The 1440p panel is much better. Keyboard as usual no suprises there.

    Also did you actually try a demanding game yet?
    Mind if you go and download Hwinfo64 + final fantasy benchmark and install both?
    Then open Hwinfo64, tick sensors box on, after that u see lots of stats, klick on the little paper with a green + icon, it will make a log, after that start ff benchmark max settings @ 1080p. Once benchmark is done send the CSV file here, I would like to see whats going on.

    Also the fact that you purchased a notebook for 5K+ USD, have issues with it, and still are happy is basicially the reason why the notebooks these days are so insanely trash. Nothing against you, but if you pay 5K USD and just live with problems and inferior hardware (keyboard, speakers etc.) then companies will keep on being lazy and try to sell us crap.
     
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  17. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Depends on the game, if the game crashes with a software error then that's that. If its hardware related that's not normal.
     
  18. Nuggarooski

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    The games crash, not the computer, and it seems to be mostly the metro series. The keyboard was a known, the panel was a future "proofing" choice (one that I regret), but I haven't really seen anything else that is an issue. No offense taken, but it is capitalism after all...and while I am just as frustrated with most of the crap and issues related to my build, realism needs to take a stand every now and again. I wish I could buy a v8 diesel tacoma with 4x4 and a manual transmission, but I will settle for one without the v8 that has electrical issues due to the number of bells and whistles on it. That truck is $50k+, so I don't see the connection all of the time as this being the consumer's fault. Dell isn't going to make a computer that is exactly what I need or want. Toyota isn't going to make the truck I exactly want. I try to vote my opinion with my pocketbook, as it is the one thing that drives capitalism.

    I can't download anything to do benchmarking att. Others have done so and the results from what I have seen are great. All the games I play are on the highest settings and I don't even look at the temps anymore as that is really all I care about, so long as performance is there. I mainly bought this to have something that would last and also from a place that provides good customer service. If this doesn't satisfy those two criteria then I will second the companies being lazy.

    yeah pretty sure it is software related and it is very infrequent so not an issue to really spend a bunch of time worrying about. I found out the stuttering was actually due to my BT controller being stupid, once it was turned into wired it worked fine and now I don't have to buy batteries, so winnner winner chicken dinner?

    yeah I have gotten used to it and I primarily use it in a lit room so it really isn't an issue att. Once I get the chance to fiddle with it I will try an loosen the mounts slightly and update this thread as need be
     
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