HPET Questions

I've been reading that disabling the HPET (high precision event timer) in the BIOS would be beneficial...where is it in a P870DM-G BIOS and should it be disabled?

 

Only in unlocked Bios for Dm2/3. But try THIS FIX
I'm not sure it will help. Tried this long time ago. I don't remember the effect of it. You could ask bro @Mr. Fox but I don't think he could see any effect of it in gaming. At least not with Windoze X

 

I think I enabled it but not sure what to look for with those tools.

EDIT: before the query performance frequency was 3.xxxxMHz. Enabling HPET made it 24MHz.

 

Hardly anything helps W8.X or W10 have good CPU performance like W7. I could see no change in it like I could with W7. Before and after benchmarks were the same on W8.X and W10. It improves benchmarks slightly with W7. Maybe due to W8.X and W10 having extra bloatware overhead robbing CPU cycles and creating latency while providing no benefit in return for it.

Enabling it did not hurt anything for me on W8.X or W10, so at least that part is OK.

 

This might actually be even more useful for you. W10 Kool-Aid drinkers like to say Micro$lop fixed core parking in W10, but clearly... they did not. Grab the attached zip file.

@Phoenix

 

it's stuck searching the registry. cpu core parking manager 3 says all cores are enabled.

 

Shall work. Worked for me.

 

ok it finally showed so i set to unpark all and it's still stuck on the registry.

 

On skylake I enabled HPET and after reboot the system performance took a nosedive. After that, I switched to TSC timer due to lower latency and system was back to normal.
I use HPET only for HWINFO fan control, disabling HPET in HWINFO had negative impact where the system would simply force reboot upon turning on HWINFO fan. I am using BGA and @Papusan clearly knows which one.

 

Windows does not use it by default. So yeah.

 

i still get stutter/hitching with it on or off in some games.

 

You were using Windows 10?

Windows 10 does not, but Windows 7 does. Windows 10 CPU performance sucks compared to Windows 7 as well. Might have something to do with it... as well as the RTC bug since Windows 8 that Micro$lop has never fixed.

 

i wish i could disable it in the bios

EDIT: i also see it in my device manager. would disabling it do anytihng?

 

Yes. For W7 HPET works all the time.

 

You use Prema BIOS, set HPET to Auto.

 

I have the prema bios but I can't find it.

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Started with Windows 8 I believe.

I currently run with HPET enabled. No idea if it even makes a difference. I also disable dynamic ticks (Useless Windows 8+ feature for power saving).

 

Yes, I have HPET enabled in the BIOS on my P870DM3. I prefer having it enabled.

 

shame it's not the same deal for the DM1.

 

It was not available when the BIOS was developed for the DM1. Prema learns new things and adds features as his skills develop. I'm sure that he did not leave it out just to be mean, LOL. When he has time to circle back to the DM1 again he might be able to add it

 

is it on or off by default in the DM1? I see no improvement regardless of whether it's on or off in the OS level.

The games I've seen that have stutter is GR: Wildlands and Forza Horizon 3. Both are open world games so could it a game related issue than a system issue?

 

I don't know. I think the default would normally be enabled. I think it used to be the default. The most likely reason it's not there is because there was no menu built into the code for it and I suspect it is one of the things he learned how to add that did not exist in the original menu structure. I'm just guessing, but it's the only explanation that makes sense. If it was there in the hidden menus you would see it in your unlocked BIOS. If I remember correctly, Windows 10 doesn't handle it correctly and may not allow functionality within Windows.

 

So there's no real point in having HPET as a controllable option in the BIOS then?

 

Perhaps there is no point if you only use W10. But, I still use Windows 7 and plan to continue using it for years to come since Micro$lop's support is something I have deemed worthless for a very long time. W7 is still better at almost everything, and W10 still sucks at too many things for me to take it seriously enough to make it my go-to operating system.

 

I think it could be game related then cos not all games I play stutter like titanfall 2, BF1, or DOOM.

 

Yes, it certainly could be. Or, it could be driver related as well. Have you tried using a driver from last year or the first quarter of this year to see if the problem is present? I still use 375.70 with W10. It gives me the highest benchmark scores and it is more stable in games for me compared to the newer and newest drivers. @Prema keeps getting better and better with time, but we're not able to say that about Micro$loth or the driver development team at NGREEDIA.

 

I'll wait till volta is available for laptops before I upgrade. SLI is the dream

 

For now, try @j95 375.70 mod and see if it helps your situation.

Should be interesting what level the nonsense goes to with Volta. Pascal has already got enough goofy nonsense to choke a mule, and I doubt their silly control freak problems are going to get better in time or go away with Volta. If anything, I suspect it might turn out to be worse with ridiculous throttling and firmware mod blocking.

 

once I get home from the gym.

 

@Mr. Fox: Is there any massive difference in benchmarks using HPET? On W7 enabling HPET was very beneficial and for W10 early builds such as Threshold 1 & 2, HPET gave worst performance. Everything slowed to a crawl.
I'm going to try HPET and report back in a while.

 

Well I faced massive stuttering even though game loaded pretty quickly. Random freezes, unstable FPS and what not! Random CPU and GPU temps spikes.
On BGA, stick with timers whatever Windows thinks the best. On LGA, HPET should work w/o any issues as reported by @Mr. Fox @Papusan

 

Yeah, bro Vasudev. I, bro @Mr. Fox @Phoenix @Ashtrix @TBoneSan + a lot others, know very well that everything that smells BGA in laptops sucks!! Should only be used in tablets, smartphones and wifi routers.

Btw. My oldest son visited me this weekend (before I live on my long summer vacation to Islas Canarias with my yougest kids ) He needed some help due some serious overheatings problems. The mounting bracket for the processor had loosened completely from the motherboard and the processor run into 99C after 5 sec in benchmarks. After the fix I tested a few benchmarks on his +4 years old MsiBook Gt70 . Not my choice of laptop, but have (socket hardware all the way around if you didn't know). Not BGA trash!!

Here are a few benchmarks from the soon 5 year old low entry Intel mobile socket i7-4810Mq... And squeeze last year's Intel Core i7 6700HQ @ HWBOT into the dust in the tested benchmarks. You're welcome to see the results, bruh And this without the unlocked Svet firmware. Almost stock clocks!! + 1bin.

http://hwbot.org/submission/3607526_papusan_cinebench___r11.5_core_i7_4810mq_8_points


http://hwbot.org/submission/3607534_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i7_4810mq_735_cb


http://hwbot.org/submission/3607512_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_4810mq_6sec_156ms


Edit. Also this year's high end Intel Core i7 7700HQ @ HWBOT is on it's knees in benchmarks. With the unlocked firmware, will this Garbage as well be pulled into the dust from the soon 5 years old low entry Intel i7-4810 mobile.

 

Totally smoked my i7 6700HQ
hmm.... I will buy a Clevo p870dm3 some time down the line, will take 3-4 years to accumulate that much cash. I'm very doubtful about the hinge in p775 or f5 tornado, it could break after 3-5 years. I like the screen hinge in p870dm3. You could almost lift up with a finger or two.
The problem is reseller to choose for Clevo's. I prefer Traditional Paste any day even after a delid.

 

Yees, totally smoked by a soon 5 year old low end socket Mobile i7. But what shall we call it when your 6700hq + the current 7700hq will be moved even closer to the mud? Aka when we start overclock this EOL socket mobile i7-4810mq with the unlocked firmware? Totally Trashed?

Yeah, yoo should say good bye to BGA TRASH Yesterday!! That today's best so called high end mobile i7 is beaten by a soon 5 year old low entry mobile, should open more eyes than from yoo my friend.

 

older drivers didn't do anything. so i guess it's a game issue.