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    Hard-drive for the NP8660

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ozymandias, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. ozymandias

    ozymandias Notebook Consultant

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    Having heard the potential problems with heat with the NP8660 hard drive I've started to think about possible solutions. Would it be possible to put in a 320gb 7200 rpm Scorpio hard drive from Western Digital? I found a site that sells it just a bit more than the price of the equivalent available from xoticpc or Sager.

    P.S. I'm sorry for asking rather than doing the research myself. I understand little about hardware configuration in Laptops, this will be my first one.
     
  2. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes you could, but c'mon, all reports have just stated that it gets a little WARM. It's not a meltdown as yet.

    The laptop in initial test is staying cool and relatively quiet.
     
  3. Cossack7V7

    Cossack7V7 Notebook Evangelist

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    If the 320GB 7200RPM hard drive is a Seagate, what is the company that makes the 250GB 7200RPM hard drive?
     
  4. Opteron

    Opteron Notebook Evangelist

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    I could vouch that seagates run hot with full blast fans running.

    Hdd idle is at 46c and while on virus scan or playing a game all the way upto 57c. I have called sager twice on the temps and both times they said it was normal...I dont see my HDD lasting more then 1yr at this rate.

    And what I have read the WD do run cooler and shouldn't have a problem upgrading. Now if you order thru a builder you could have had your choice of HDD mfg.

    Hope that helped.
     
  5. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, my hard drives in my desktop system are in the mid 50s idle, don't know how high they go when busy, and 2/4 I have them for 2.5 years, not dead yet.
     
  6. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe getting a 16G SSD for around 60 bucks would help?
     
  7. NameInsert

    NameInsert Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone know what hard drives Xotic uses on their machines or do all Sager machines use Seagate?
     
  8. Shane@DARK.

    Shane@DARK. Company Representative

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    All Sager machines use the same brand hard drives. The resellers don't touch them.
     
  9. Legacy40k

    Legacy40k Notebook Consultant

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    Go to a 5400 rpm drive.. longer battery life and lower heat.
     
  10. NameInsert

    NameInsert Notebook Consultant

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    So Seagate? or what? IMO Hitachi wins.
     
  11. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Sager does not use any particular brand hard drive. They alone decide what they will use, and it will change from time to time base on market conditions.
     
  12. MrFong

    MrFong Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmmmm. Speaking of which - is it possible to "downclock" a 7,200RPM HDD so it runs at 5400RPM, or lower? If I wanted to save a little battery life while on the go.

    Does it even make much of a difference o_O
     
  13. ptatti

    ptatti Notebook Enthusiast

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    My old Acer Aspire 5560 has a HD temp about 70-80 c when playing games and about 50-60 at normal condition :(
    buy it works ok for almost 4years now.

    Dont worry too much.
     
  14. tingc222

    tingc222 Notebook Guru

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    no, unfortunately
     
  15. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    The difference in battery life between a 7200 and a 5400 is miminal.

    The performance however, is noticeable :)
     
  16. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    JagerQ Notebook Consultant

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    Just get a 320GB 5400rpm drive, it will perform as good as previous 7200rpm drives, but it will give you more storage and less heat.
     
  19. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Is there a ranking/round up of all 7k320 drives?

    It seems like the WD 320 is the best, how far behind is Seagate?
     
  20. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    sweeeeeeeet. Just found out that PCMW is putting the Hitachi Travelstar 7K320 in our PCMW orders.
    http://gadget.blogdig.net/archives/...tachi_Travelstar_7K320_Sips_Little_Power.html


    And I found out that PCMW included 4GB of DDR3 1333 mem in my order without even knowing! They will be shipping by the end of this week and those who ordered from PCMW should get it early next - to late next week.

    Oh yeah - Deathwinger: we get the 2gb Turbo memory for FREE. They are including it in every EDGE order! :)
     
  21. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess it is because they charged you more on something else ...
     
  22. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    ****it I want a Travelstar... Anything but a Seagate.
     
  23. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    LOL that's the funniest thing I've read all year. 1675 for the config in my sig. LOL

    Travelstar is said to operate at the power consumption levels of a 5400rpm drive - with shock protection!
     
  24. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    For real? Which company you bought it from?
     
  25. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    is there room for a second HD or SSD drive on the NP8860/M60TU, similar to the Asus G50v?
     
  27. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Can you order an laptop for the same price for me? I will make the payment and change the address. Because I when I went there their basline price was much more than what it should be.
     
  28. Shane@DARK.

    Shane@DARK. Company Representative

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    No. The D901C (Sager NP9262) is the only Clevo laptop that supports multiple hard drives.
     
  29. Chunghwa

    Chunghwa Notebook Enthusiast

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    I used a laptop cooler, so for me, my laptops temps were no prob. While at vacation, I played crysis for 2 hours, and the temps were oddly low, even cool after touching both surfaces. Although that might be the hotel rooms insane AC. :p
     
  30. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Where was the hotel located? North pole?
     
  31. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Somewhere in Asia. The unit was probably built by Carrier?
     
  32. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    Rura Penthe.
     
  33. Elite Cataphract

    Elite Cataphract Notebook Evangelist

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    If the 320GB 7200RPM is a Seagate, what are the brands of the other hard drives currently available? I would definitely get a Western Digital hard drive. They run cool and quiet. ;)
     
  34. Deathwinger

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    It makes a world of difference when it comes to Video and Sound editing and creation. But then again, for games, RIGHT NOW, no noticeable or caring difference.

    Do you know how many times I reread this before it finally registered? Brother, I beleive we are getting the most powerful m860tu's out there. :D
    2GB Turbo Memory for free, and Paladin's description of it really makes it sound incredibly worth it. Well, what can I say...

    ...WE DESERVE IT!
     
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  35. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    Yeah man. After being heckled for long. We are the only few people that didn't give in to the "don't buy from PCMW" rhetoric. They made everyone who had great deals cancel their orders. Tsk tsk.

    Man that Hitachi drive is sick. That's what they're putting in our systems. Due to the less energy it consumes - heat will definately be less.

    And - we'll for sure have the fastest M860TU's here - thank you ddr3 1333mhz!
     
  36. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    I guess we can hope not to have that warm sensation at the lower right of the notebook. Signature updated to suit.
     
  37. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    Since the notebook/mainboard can only use memory speeds up to 1066, what's the point, to get 1333 which will at best downclocked? I didn't even know you could get 1333 ram modules for notebooks.
     
  38. Ad@m

    Ad@m Notebook Guru

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    Can people still get deals similar to DRTH_STi and Deathwinger's from pcmw?
     
  39. Elite Cataphract

    Elite Cataphract Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think so. They probably pre-ordered their notebooks during the Memorial Day or July Fourth Sales Event. Their deals have been getting better, since a lot of people avoided ordering from PCMW.

    I'm sure there will be a Labor Day sale though. ;)
     
  40. Deathwinger

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    Overclocking potential is greater and when programs begin to fully utilize the DDR3 ram, a difference in performance will be noted.
     
  41. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Is that the name of the hotel or name of the prison camp?
     
  42. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm, I fail to understand how that would be possible since it would be impossible to increase the clock of the RAM no matter how much you want to over 1066.
    Since the DDR3 1333 will be run at 1066, then how is it going to have any increased performance difference on the current notebook?

    They are not cars, they are memory modules.
     
  43. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    Both, cool rooms, not much view, but free food.
     
  44. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'd tell to ask a very versed individual in the development and modification of laptops how it would be benefittial for a better explination than I can currently give. But he got banned from the forums soon after explaining it. So let's leave it there, shall we?
     
  45. Mikelx215

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    When has RAM speed ever been the bottle neck of a gaming rig?
     
  46. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Hohoho Never!!!!
     
  47. ozymandias

    ozymandias Notebook Consultant

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    What are peoples opinions on free-fall sensors. I've heard mixed reviews on them. Some people say by the time it initiates the damage is already done, while others say its a miracle.
     
  48. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    They won't be useful on NP8660, because you would break the whole system if you try free fall with NP8660 o_O
     
  49. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    LOL - we'll see. :)
     
  50. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    BlueMak are you on holiday with Chunghwa? Because it was Chunghwa who made the comment about the hotel A/C.

    Freefall sensors seem to be pretty good, one company is advertising a minimum 200ms time or 6" drop to stop the platters and retract the head.
     
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