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    Has anyone been able to OC the 7970M with 13.1 WHQL and Afterburner 2.3.0? (P150EM)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by core², Jan 18, 2013.

  1. core²

    core² Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys,
    guess the title says it all. Anyone been able to OC his card using MSI Afterburner 2.3.0 and the new driver 13.1 WHQL?

    (Unfortunately I've not been able to OC my card using any combination of older drivers or afterburner versions... I have been following SlickDudes guide, which seems to work for everybody else... I'm still stuck with Afterburner showing me 0/0 as soon as i change the configfile with the EULA info and support = 1)
     
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    Do you have the ati dll file in the folder from older versions?
     
  3. core²

    core² Notebook Consultant

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    tried it before, didn't work. But I haven't tried it with this new config i have to admit.
    *searching file-link* :)

    EDIT:

    added the atipdlxx.dll - still showing 0/0 with config changed and 850/1200 with standard config...
    i even ran a search now in my registry and changed every EnableULPS to 0 although they're not in the relevant folder (as well as EnabpleULPS_NA)

    don't know why this isn't working for me :/
     
  4. Zymphad

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    You know what works with overclocking? Windows 8. Yup.
     
  5. core²

    core² Notebook Consultant

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    well i haven't had any problem with win7 for the past few years. maybe when i'm doing a clean install i might check out windows 8 first :)
     
  6. Scerate

    Scerate Notebook Evangelist

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    try installing this Patch for Afterburner (using it myself) and then start Afterburner once with the commandline -xcl e.g. "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" -xcl

    after that there should be something standing according to Clocks (for me it's in german so i don't know exactly :p) and reboot, hope it works
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That tends not to do it with switchable setups.

    I would suggest going over your registry again and double checking they are changed, remember you have to set the changes every driver install.
     
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  9. Tb5...

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    i edited my "MSIAfterburner.cfg"

    changed:

    UnofficialOverclockingEULA = 1
    UnofficialOverclockingMode = 1

    i can now move the sliders.
     
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    RBE has no support for 7xxx series cards unfortunately, the only editor was released by Svl7 and it only works on dell bios files so far.
     
  11. PiMaster314

    PiMaster314 Notebook Guru

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    Are you using extended desktop (i.e. an external monitor) with your laptop by chance? I've found that I am not able to overclock my 7970m unless I have no monitors or anything attached to my laptop, only when I am running directly off the built-in screen.
     
  12. core²

    core² Notebook Consultant

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    Did that just after installing the new drivers and afterburner, as well as some reboots.. all of them are changed 100%

    didn't work for me :/

    what's this patch for? most version numbers from 13.1 are higher already ? also when i add -xlc afterburner won't start at all :)

    yes i'm using an external screen connected via HDMI.. gonna give this a try later. haven't thought about that yet :) let's hope it works. in your case does it mean you can OC while using the notebook screen and as soon as you plug in an external monitor the card gets down to stock clocks? or you just had to OC it with the notebook screen and now it's running on higher clocks even when restarting the system and a having an external display connected?
     
  13. PiMaster314

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    I believe it did keep it overclocked but once you connected the external screen again the sliders would go back to 0. I have no idea if it kept the clocks after restarting though, but I would imagine that it didn't...

    It's been a while since I've overclocked so I'd have to play around with it again I think. I do remember that I had to play around with alot of the suggestions in these forums (messing with the config file, registry changes, different versions of Afterburner, etc) in order to get it to work, but once I discovered the external monitor thing it seemed to work like a charm.
     
  14. fcoramirez97

    fcoramirez97 Notebook Guru

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    Im having the same problem. I change the MSI Afterburner file, then changed the EnableULPS to 0, but when i start afterburner, the clocks are 0/0. Anyone knows why?
    I have the 13.1 driver and MSI Afterburner 2.3.0
     
  15. fcoramirez97

    fcoramirez97 Notebook Guru

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    I HAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION!

    It was quite simple. You can't overclock if the 7970m is not being used, so just start a game, ALT+TAB, and start MSI Afterburner. You will see there is space to overclock. Remember you do have to change the MSI file. But EnableULPS is set to 1, didnt change that. I will overclock my card tomorrow.
     
  16. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    i was just about to say, this has been discussed many times in various threads already :) u always need to first activate the 7970m by launching a 3d application before afterburner can detect it and modify its clocks :)
    glad u found that out by urself!

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  17. fcoramirez97

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    LOL youre right, the solution is in a lot of posts. I just noticed because i was playing Metro 2033 but afterburner wasn't showing the gpu utilization, so i alt+tabbed and.... ¡Eureka!
    Anyway, I have a question. Why do i have to change the EnableULPS to do an overclock? Is it a 100% necessary to disable this if i want to overclock?
     
  18. jaybee83

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    its not 100% necessary, but rather "recommended". the ULPS controls the powersaving functions of the gpu, thus when those are disabled the OC is more stable and u can overclock higher :)
     
  19. fcoramirez97

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    I will disable it then. I will try to get my card to 1000/1500, hope it works :)
     
  20. jaybee83

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    theres a good chance of those clocks being stable, based on various user experiences so far :) but try to OC and get the core clock stable first, before u try the RAM clocks. the first one gives u more of a performance boost than the latter, but the RAM OC might restrict ur temperature heardroom too early and thus limit ur core OC capability.
     
  21. fcoramirez97

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    What are the temperatures with that kind of overclock? Im going to reinstall hwinfo so i can keep an eye on the temperatures while gaming
     
  22. jaybee83

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    thats definitely a good idea, keeping an eye on temps is key when OCing :)

    im maxing out at around 82C after 20 min. of kombustor at my max OC clocks of 1045/1550 (thats with a core overvolt at 1.075v). ive repasted the gpu with ICD7,slightly raised the back of my machine by using two plastic bottle caps (works wonders! :p ) and had Fn+1 functionality enabled :) i also keep my heatsink fins and exhaust vents free of dust and applied the foil mod to get improved air exhaust.
     
  23. fcoramirez97

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    Haha, nice idea. Too bad i dont have thermal paste, guess ill have to buy some. im going to download kombustor now
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

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    Thermal paste is best when fresh anyway, and always worth getting some decent stuff.
     
  25. fcoramirez97

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    While I was playing Chivalry, the temperature was 85°C, at stock clocks!!! Thats way too high, right? Also, the Fan Speed was always at 35%, im guessing it has something to do with the high temperatures. How can get 100% fan speed? If im getting those temperatures with stock clocks, no way im going to be able to overclock this damn card
     
  26. fatih64

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    Depends on paste.

    Try not to make your fans use stale air. It makes 10C difference for me.
     
  27. Tb5...

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    finally made the necessary registry change and now the msi is allowing me to oc.
    problem is anything more than stock is causing bsod. (100Mhz+)
    i assume it has something to do with not being able to set the voltage or fan

    [​IMG]

    is there a reason that only 2 sliders are active.
     
  28. jaybee83

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    nope, thats standard. changing voltages would only be possible via a modded vbios and the fan speed is completely controlled by the embedded controller (EC) and cannot be accessed through third party tools.

    so even a core OC at 860 Mhz gives u a bsod?
     
  29. Meaker@Sager

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    Most paste will not like long term exposure to air, some much less than others but always best to be safe than sorry.
     
  30. fcoramirez97

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    Jay, do you have any idea why im getting 35% fan speed? My temperature is 85°C while playing, too much in my opinion.....
     
  31. jaybee83

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    could be that ur fan speed only rams up once 90C is reached. do u have Fn+1 functionality? (100% fans) its included in eurocom and mythlogic bios versions. sager as well i think...?
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    I know my fan speed with the 680M would only max at 90C but it was faster than 35% before that IIRC.
     
  33. fcoramirez97

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    My bios version says American Megatrends Inc. 4.6.5.

    Searched in msinfo32
     
  34. jaybee83

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    ur actual bios version is listed in the bios itself, which u can access by repeatedly pressing F2 when booting :)

    meaker? do u remember which Bios / EC versions have the Fn+1 implemented in the EM series?
     
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    yes i have the fn+1 function. Im going to try it while gaming
     
  36. jaybee83

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    good stuff :) shouldnt bother u too much if uve got the game volume cranked up or wearing headphones ;)
     
  37. Zymphad

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    Sager EC/BIOS have the FN+1 implemented.
     
  38. MKEGuy

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    Odd, I hit fn+1 and the fans do not spin up?
     
  39. Tb5...

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    thanks @jaybee83

    i tried it and it seems to be ok at 860mhz 1210mhz,

    i guess ill keep slowly moving them up till i find the breaking point.

    is either memory clock or core clock more valuable than the other. is there one that make more of a difference in performance when overclocked?

    edit: fn + 1 works here, and is new to me. will be trying it out while gaming.
     
  40. jaybee83

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    core is definitely more important. leave the memory at stock clocks and try to get the most out of the core before starting to oc the memory :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    It can depend on what settings you choose exactly but yes, since it has high speed memory compared to the 680M it does see nice increases, memory does still make a difference especially if you are lucky and your card is strong in both.

    Beware testing this on stock 3dmark benchmarks since they are low resolution.
     
  42. Tb5...

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    just running some some kombuster bencmarks to test the oc.
    seems like a low score, although it seems stable @ 950mhz 1225mhz

    what are people getting with the 7970 np9150

    graphic memory 0mb?

    [​IMG]
     
  43. jaybee83

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    for benchmarking, better go with 3dmark11, no one really uses kombustor for the built in benchmark. for stability testing use the built-in stress testing mode and also include 3dmark, unigine, game benchmarks.

    stock 3dmark11 score on 12.11 beta and later should be around 6500, with a good OC u could get to 8k, but realistically, most people are somewhere in the 7k range :)
     
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    0mb is a detection issue, would not get very far with 0mb!
     
  45. fcoramirez97

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    Which one of these is the best thermal paste?

    - Thermaltake TG-1
    - Artic Silver 5
    - Artic Cooling MX-2
     
  46. jaybee83

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    id say prolimatech pk1, ocz freeze or icd7 ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    I have only found the three that i mentioned, i dont think that i can find the ones you said here in chile :/
     
  48. jaybee83

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    haha ok, sorry about that :) i havent had any personal experience with any of those three,but i remember hearing good stuff about the mx-2 :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    I did extensive research on TIM and I felt comfortable about the MX-4, it shaved off 5-7 degrees celsius in comparison to the stock TIM which was applied very poorly and in very large quantity.
     
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    I'm in the process of OCing my 7970M, currently at 975 Mhz core clock and holding steady at 82C after 10 minutes of kombustor. What am I supposed to witness exactly when I've reached my card's limit? High temps or just artifacts/BSOD/smoke from back of computer?

    Also, how and why did you overvolt your core? What's the logic behind it?

    Btw I'm astounded at what a repaste + foil mod does. When I first got the machine I "Kombustored" it with a portable AC blowing under it as it rested on a U3 stand with three fans blowing air into the laptop case, and then other variations, and I saw a max temp of 96C. Right now after the foil and MX-4 the laptop is resting on two bottle caps from the back about 5 inches from the wall in a room where the heater is on, and I'm OCing it, and I'm yet to see more than 82C.

    Funnily enough WoW gets me up to 85C (ultra everything but still, it's WoW) and the GPU usage in Kombustor stays at 85% and Afterburner confirms that, is that normal?
     
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