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    Has anyone tried OS X on their Clevo?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by egoistmusketeer, May 27, 2012.

  1. egoistmusketeer

    egoistmusketeer Notebook Geek

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    Has anyone tried running OS X on their Clevo? and If so, did it work? I really want to use some of OS X's software ( Im a big fan of both final cut and XCode) but I can't really stomach paying ~2000 dollars for a low voltage processor and 4 gbs of ram.
     
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    I too would like to know if this is possible :)
     
  3. misterhobbs

    misterhobbs Notebook Evangelist

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    Run it in a VM.
     
  4. egoistmusketeer

    egoistmusketeer Notebook Geek

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    I was thinking more in like a hackintosh fashion, whether it would work that way
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Wouldn't it work just like on any other PC?
     
  6. y2bd

    y2bd Notebook Geek

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    As in not very well :D

    Hmm, the current Sagers all use new Nvidia cards. Don't think OSX would have very good compatibility with those, unless you can fool it (I believe that's what kexts are for?).
     
  7. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    they have had nvidia in the past like the 330m so it could work, but you would need do some serious hacking.
     
  8. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    can you fool it to run solely on iGPU ?
    Here are some info for you guys, this is from the P150/170 HM
    tonymacx86 Forum • View topic - Quick & Dirty Guide to install OS X on Clevo P170HM
    tonymacx86 Forum • View topic - Official Clevo P150HM1/P170HM1 thread
    HCL 10.7.2/Portables - OSx86
     
  9. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    Might wanna read the rules about hackintosh. IIRC they like to close threads like this.
     
  10. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    ^ nah, Admin announced it's ok to discuss this matter sometime earlier
     
  11. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    OK for 150/170 HM models this will work yes, because it's a single GPU machine and the optimus isn't working on it even it you get an intel HD embedded CPU.

    For the EM on the other hand you wont get far, trust me I've tried with my original OSx Lion USB stick, the installer and the machine will boot up fine and with a little tweaking like disable graphics enabler and routing the PCI bus to 0 BUT you wont get any display so you can't install anything. Unless someone releases a hack or a patch to bypass the optimus feature entirely this will risk not seeing the light of day anytime soon.
     
  12. Longshot47

    Longshot47 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Consider me a total newbie regarding this... But this is for a direct install of the OS?

    Would running OSX thru parallels/VM stillwork?
     
  13. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    yes this is in regard to booting OSX vanilla no hacks, only the bootloader needs hacking the kernel and the rest of the OS is untouched.

    you can run it in VM and parallels no problems, only running it directly would benefit you it's full potential and speed.Only need I want OSX is for my final cut pro, the rest windows 7 manages great
     
  14. egoistmusketeer

    egoistmusketeer Notebook Geek

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    ^^ Its too bad they don't release a version of Final Cut for windows, I'm not really a fan of Vegas and thats the closest thing.
     
  15. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    my legacy projects are in FCP :( I swear the trial version of CS6 blows it out of the water, I'm set on buying the license from adobe, now that they have that lease thing where you're able to "rent" any version from their cloud, it gives me a new perspective as my ROI is better that way. Vegas is good too :) but if you want truly custom and control there's no way but adobe.
     
  16. egoistmusketeer

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    How does CS6 run on your 675? does it take advantage of the CUDA?
     
  17. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    CUDA works with it fine, I just had to edit the supported list for it to be enabled,but after that tweak it works wonders :), I get realtime playback while editing 1080p RAW videos :D :D
     
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    Last time I've tried OS X virtualization, I couldn't get QE/CI, which is a requirement for any graphics-accelerated application. No one has been able to successfully code a fully working QE/CI compliant graphics driver for use in VMware.

    Ideally, to get the most out of the computer, you'd want it it boot from the HD, because then you wouldn't have to worry about having the host OS underneath the virtualization layer take up system resources and because abstracted virtual hardware devices can be a pain to work with.

    I hope to be receiving my P150EM by July, so I'll test it then.
     
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    Mr_Mysterious Like...duuuuuude

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    Just a word of warning before the mods come: It's against forum rules to talk about "hackintosh" since it's illegal for OSX to run on anything other than Apple hardware.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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    s2odin Merrica!

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    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    oh ouch so sorry about that :( ok I'll stop talking of Hackintoshes, I had thought only to answer a question as if a Clevo would be an ideal candidate to run one, I didn't mean to spur any missconception :)
     
  22. s2odin

    s2odin Merrica!

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    You can continue Hackintosh discussion. Mods removed the ban against it. Check the bottom of the last page for the thread.
     
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    Mr_Mysterious Like...duuuuuude

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    Oops, sorry about that. Lol I always think I know the forum rules :p

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  24. Heihachi_1337

    Heihachi_1337 Notebook Deity

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    Well, you can continue discussing it so long as the OS was obtained LEGALLY.
    Folks have been discussing it over in the Asus forums for a while now.
     
  25. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    Ok thanks for the heads up, I'll only discuss it in terms of what you need to do to the machine or the tools you need. I wont post any torrent or link as to where one might get a copy of OSX.
     
  26. egoistmusketeer

    egoistmusketeer Notebook Geek

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    Im still waiting on my computer ( the 7970m fiasco ) so I still can't do any testing myself :/
     
  27. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    I bet that 7970m would work, the nvidia doesn't as the bootloader reverts to an intel HD series card, then when you reach the mach kernel initialization phase it picks up the nvidia card and you hang there forever. But if you bypass the nvidia card and issue a "GraphicsEnabler=No" command it would boot all the way into the setup screen, but you wont see anything as it's missing proper support to switch from internal GPU to discrete GPU, to make it worse Clevo bios doesn't allow you to deactivate the internal GPU since it's locked out :(
     
  28. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    BOTH GPUs are fully muxed together. There is no way to force using either iGPU or dGPU


    Sent from my wholly molly new iPad using Tapatalk
     
  29. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    Optimus capable mac book air is able to demux the chips. Also Samsung variants having the GT630 GT650m cards are able to hackintosh fine :( it's because they have the option to force which card goes first in the bios. Whereas Clevo lappy's don't have that option cause it's hidden/removed.
     
  30. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    I believe it's dGPU then iGPUn the EM models because without a dGPU, the notebooks freak out and shutdown. If it's the other way around, I'm sure one can boot without dGU


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  31. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    yes it's this way, no need to rip it out actually, just need a way to organize the way they are booting up. Would love to boot this with a hackintosh these specs are enough to give geekbench a boner :D :D :D
     
  32. egoistmusketeer

    egoistmusketeer Notebook Geek

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    I believe apple is switching back to Nvidia for mountain lion.
     
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    CUDA tweak for CS6??
    Adobe CS-6 Dumped CUDA and went openGL, which is where the new Kepler based cards are ticking us off

    AMD and Adobe Announce OpenCL Support in Creative Suite 6 by VR-Zone.com

    http://blenderartists.org/forum/sho...Creative-Suite-6-With-the-MGE-they-ditch-CUDA.
    http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2012/05/opencl-and-premiere-pro-cs6.html
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/979969
     
  34. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    They actually didn't dump CUDA :) they "added" support for OpenCL so other cards can have benefits of GPGPU computing. below are two screenshots that show OpenCL and CUDA inside Adobe CS6. OpenCL is supported in Photoshop, while After effects and Premiere does both OpenCL (as OpenGL) and CUDA specific instruction sets.

    [​IMG]
     
  35. TheAppleFreak

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    Well, what kext on a Nvidia-based MBA allows for graphics switching? I imagine it can't be too difficult to patch in preliminary support for a 6xx series card, and force it to run on the integrated card thereafter. "Difficult," of course, is subjective, since Hackintoshing is never easy.

    I think that at least being able to harness the iGPU for general graphics would be a good stepping stone until 6xx series support is developed by someone (Tonymacx86, the people at InsanelyMac, etc) or until the GPU switching option is enabled via a BIOS update.
     
  36. spectroplasm

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    I firmly doubt they'd let you mess with GPU switching options in an update :( these things are locked down
     
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    Maybe not on a BIOS level, but perhaps OS side we can get some magic happening.

    I've yet to look through Lion's default kexts (or learn how to write .kexts), but I don't think it should be that difficult to take the kext that controlled Optimus on the older MacBooks, plug in the HIDs for the GTX controllers, and force it to disable the dGPU at runtime. HD4000 will then allow for general work.
     
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    i've tried it while running vmware on top of windows 7, works pretty good.
     
  39. Musti08

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    It would be cool to see how it operates with Vmware on the new Clevo laptops. If anyone has the time to install it and try, please do. I think it would run fine. I had it running on an i3-380m and the only issue was the response time when typing or opening apps
     
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    So I ordered a Sager NP9170 and am now very interested in learning whether I can run Mac on it also. Anyone know if there's any more status on hackintoshing it on a 7970m machine?
     
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    Given its extremely limited availability thus far, I don't know whether anyone has actually been able to test the 7970M in a Hackintosh. I'd imagine that there would be major compatibility issues with the dGPU, since the Tahiti-based cards have no working OS X implementations (none yet, anyway). However, Apple likes using AMD cards, so there's a possibility these cards can get acceleration based off of what OS X already has. It's the same situation with the GTX 670M and 675M; since its a new controller, there's no proper support yet.

    I'm going to try this out when I get my NP9150.
     
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    I've tried every possible way known to me thus far but no cigar. I only needed OSX to port over my final cut projects to premiere, so I ended up using VMware which to my surprise worked like a charm, no lag no nothing. when I finish my porting I'll uninstall it and stay on win7 for the rest of my productions
     
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    Has anyone with a 7970M tried this yet?

    I'm slated to receive my Clevo today, so I'll try it out when Windows is installed and properly configured.
     
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    Any actual success stories? I'm looking at the NP6165 but am worried about the motherboard being supported, as well as essentials like the fan. CPU and 650M should work fine in Mountain Lion. Not going to buy it only to find I can't run Mac OS primarily so any responses would be greatly helpful and appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    I'm waiting for HD6990m to be supported. :/
     
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    Success installation with Clevo P170EM using niresh12495 mountain lion 10.8 []
    THINGS THAT WORKS:
    sound using MultiBeast
    ethernet
    bluetoth vanilla
    webcam vanilla
    update: hd4000 now work WITH QE/CI


    sorry for my english
     

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  47. Zymphad

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    Is this even allowed to be discussed on NBR? It is against Apple's license/agreement to install OS X on any machine other than an Apple.
     
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    yes it is fine to discuss hackintosh on these forums. It may violate Apples EULA but since that restriction is null and void due to consumer protection laws in so many countries, it was deemed acceptable as long as there is no discussion on pirating the OS itself.
     
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    after vanilla installation using mountain lion 10.8.2 downloaded from App Store this is My geekbench :D
    geek-p170em.jpg

    sorry for my english
     
  50. failwheeldrive

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    Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the advantage of using this os? I've never heard of anyone running osx on a pc before. Are you just more familiar with that operating system?
     
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