Hello Looking for new Clevo Laptop for Thanksgiving

Hello, I am buying a new Clevo Laptop for thanksgiving.

I am looking for the best 17 inch, single-GPU(getting 780m) gaming laptop I can get.

I have come down to 3 options. P570WM3, P375SM, and P177SM. I have no budget but prob won't spend more then $2600(really hard to go over $2600 for single GPU anyway.)

Can anyone tell me the difference between these. I am thinking about taking P177SM off the list because I don't want to deal with Nvidia Optimus.

It would be very nice if someone could point out which one the 3 above is best for gaming(single gpu of course).

 

Will you use the laptop portably? Which cpu are you going to get? Have you thought about getting the 120Hz 3D display? What is your concern with Optimus? Do you plan to add another gpu in the future?

They are all pretty simular for single gpu gaming. If you put a high end cpu in the 570, that could eek out a few more fps. It is also the least portable, the most bulky. Otherwise they are all very simular, as they would have the same gpu. I like the P170 since it is a little lighter, has decent web surfing battery life, is a little less bulky, and it is not tribal.

If portability and bulkiness is not a concern, your money will go farther with a desktop. You can get a more powerfull system, better for gaming.

 

I understand I can get much more for my money with a desktop but I plan on getting a laptop at the moment. Portability will not matter much to me.

I am getting a 4800MQ as Anantech recommends this to make sure the CPU will rarely throttle the 780m. I have actually thought about getting the 120hz but not sure that the single 780m will be able to handle 120hz at 1080p with high game settings.

I have researched Optimus a bunch and don't want to deal with the problems of some games not using a the discrete GPU correctly and rather using the integrated one.

I will most likely not add another GPU in the future.

 

If you dont plan on dual video cards the P177SM would be your best bet.

If you're ruling out the P375SM and P570WM because of potential Optimus issues dont, those two models do not have Optimus.

The P375SM is pretty much like the P177SM but has dual video card support

The P570WM also has dual video card support and a true desktop CPU instead of a Mobile version.

 

Alright thanks for the replies. I see that P570 uses the older generation intel chips while P375 uses Haswell.

Last questions:

I have heard that clock for clock Haswell is a bit better than the older generation. Right now I am leaning toward the P375, is there any reason to go with the P570?

And what the heck is the difference between the S and SM and WM and WM3 models. Clevo needs to update their site to be more user-friendly to get more customers. There is no description defining the differences or a compare button.

 

The P570 uses the most current for desktops which is Ivy Bridge-E, Haswell is not available for desktop CPU's.

The main reason to go with the P570 is for the desktop CPU. If you compare their stock CPU's in some benchmark programs like Passmark you'll see the i7-4820K scores 10212 vs the i7 4700MQ scores 7945.

 

I see, thank you for all the advice, I am going to research the Desktop cpu and the new Haswell CPU and decide between the P570 and P375. Thanks Again.

 

The ivy bridge e is faster than the haswells. But the i7-4800mq is not the fastest haswell either. The i7-4930mq is the fastest haswell. If you are not going for fastest cpu, then no need for the p570, as that is the only real advantage. If you want the fastest cpu, then the ivy bridge e desktop cpu is faster. But that unit uses two big power supplies. So be prepared.

As for optimus, I have not heard of any problems with it. You might be thinking of the AMD version which had a lot of problems in the previous generation. Please research this more... Nvidia optimus has been ok has far as which games it runs in. Plus you can manually select in the software which gpu to use.

I would suggest you get the P177 or P170, since you will stay single gpu, don't need a desktop cpu, don't need 3D or 120Hz display.

 

Yeah after researching some more, I think I'm gonna go with the P370 4800mq(I know its not fastest but 4930mx is too much and 4900 showed very little gains) 3D 120hz with single 780m.
As for the Optimus thing, I have heard problems with it as well as Enduro(I think Amds version). But it doesn't matter now since the P370 3d doesn't use Optimus.

If anyone wants to raise any objections to me not getting a P370 3D, I would love to hear them before I buy it(Prob on Cyber Monday to see if any deals come up)

 

The 3D 120 Hz display is more than just 3D. You also get up to 120Hz refresh in games. Faster refresh is better for competetive gaming. But also easier on your eyes. Not to mention it can reduce tearing. But it is up to you, just want you to have the proper info. (I have heard it might be possible to over clock the display, but have not heard anyone that has done it in this model.)

For deals, check the Black Friday thread in this section...

 

Alright thanks for all the info. I am going to buy one on Cyber Monday. Now I have to see which reseller offers it the cheapest or best options.