Help Cannot overclock New NP5796 9800m gt

I just recently purchased a NP5796 laptop with x9100, 4gb ram, 9800m gt, and when I try to overclock the gpu using rivatuner it does not let me. Clocks reset as soon as i hit apply. I've been going crazy trying to figure out what the problem is, I even switched drivers using www.laptopvideo2go.com but no such luck.

Any help is much appreciated

Ps whats the PLL for these laptops when using setfsb?

 

If you have the X9100 processor, your overclocking options for the CPU should be in the BIOS. As for overclocking the graphics card, it has to be done via flashing it. This can be tricky because you risk doing a bad flash and killing the card.

 

As easy as one two thr... OH GOD MY LAPTOP'S ON FIRE@!

 

How and is that the only way???

and i know the cpu overclocking is in the bios but it only offers multipliers I want something a bit more indepth

 

Multipliers are as far as it is going to go without risking setting the machine on fire.

And yes, flashing the GPU is the only way to overclock it in laptops.

 

So I am SOL when it comes to overclocking the GPU due to difficulty or risk?

 

You wont be albe to overclock the 9800GT any time soon. First off most drivers wont let you overclock via soft oc, (use of program) you have to use VBIOS flash using NBITOR. However, since the 9800GT is a relatively new card, NIBITOR does not recognize the bios, and rivatuner and stuff wont be able to OC since it does not have the parameters set to OC it. So we have to wait for the developers to release updates. Vbios flash isn't that hard. As long as you dont pull some random bios offline and are connected to a power outlet it should be fine. Ive done it numerous times on my 5793.

 

so basically we just have to wait for support for the 9800m gt?

 

You're not out of luck if you want to overclock the GPU, no. It's just that you will be taking a risk. Like Minkang said, just give it time so that it will be supported.

 

Yep, almost any new product will not have OC support for it.

 

what do u want to overclock it for.........

 

Because he can! And for absolute maximum performance so he can blast the eye candy as high as it will go (minus Crysis).

 

Just wait for the software OC. Bios OC, is tricky, and if it goes wrong, your warranty is likely to be voided.

 

why overclock... ur card is plenty powerful....

 

If the 9800gt is anything like the 8800M GTX software OC is pretty tricky.

 

Try Ntune, Ati Tool, EVGA Ocing Utility then.
Make sure you get a good driver, like 177.41 and up.
On how to`s for updating drivers, click on the guide in my sig.

 

No I tried all those clients and switched my driver still nothing i guess ill just wait for support for the 9800 gt with rivatuner

 

The 9800m GT will not soft OC as it IS an 8800m GTX. if you load the bios into nibitor, then change the card id to that of an 8800m GTX then save it and reload it, it should give you sensible values which you can then alter and change the card id back to what it was, save and then flash. We had to do this for the 8800m GTX when it was first released too (except changing it to an 8700).

 

Good post theriko, I was just going to say something like this for informational purposes only, and you beat me to the punch!

I would like to add to be careful saying, "Hey, I bought this system from XYZ Company, and I am over clocking the GPU." Because if you have issues later, and they just happen to be GPU related you may run into trouble.

"XYZ Company" is a fictions company name used for explanation purposes only. Any similarities between XYZ and any companies in existence now is purely coincidental.

 

If you give me your bios I'll OC it for you.. I just know a trick to make it work with nibitor!

 

But what about XYZ Corp. which is, according to the Delaware Division of Corporations, an existing corporation?

 

@ Oile if i give you my bios you can overclock it for me?

PM me with some info

 

No offense to anyone's kindness.. but putting your BIOS in a strangers hands so they can tweak it, and then you flash your computer.. Not the greatest idea. Would quite possibly brick your brand new laptop, and I'm sure you don't want to wait on a new one. I had the same issue with the 9700m GTS, RivaTuner wasn't up to date at the time I received my rig. I also couldn't get a shadow copy of my BIOS, cause all of my hardware components were not supported. Easy solutions:

1. Wait. Be patient, you can always overclock it when software vendors catch up. BIOS flashing is for experienced OC'ing, and it doesn't sound like you're too far along. You can, and will likely mess things up.

2. I used nTune. It would be the only software to give me proper clocks, it's nVidia's hardware..their own software SHOULD work for it. Check this website for more info:
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19402

Also, there is a program that gives similar functions with easier access for Nvidia GPUs. Try here:
http://nvtweak.laptopvideo2go.com/

Now, if you're feeling gutsy you can see this thread explaining how to OC using the 8800 GTX and non-stock drivers, which I assume may be your dilemma. It's tailored to the NP5791/2/3, but it is possible that your rig will work as well. If you make a $3000 paper weight, don't come looking for me!
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17753

Fair warning, don't OC your card..then OC your FSB, if you're looking for a PLL to use SetFSB. To the best of my knowledge, if you OC using SetFSB it will OC EVERYTHING, including your PCI-express slot(where your GPU is), and your RAM, and your FSB. That could create major problems, especially on a laptop. Take this one step at a time, and TEST TEST TEST for stability before moving onto changing more settings.
Maybe this guide will give you a bit more insight:
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/1-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

Good luck, proper OC'ing takes time and patience if you're looking for best results

 

I've loaded Nbitor 4.4, loaded my stock bios, using nvflash -b oldbios.rom. Still wont recognize anything. Tried setting the device id to 8800M Gtx and still wont let me change the clock rates or voltages or anything everything is grayed out and blank.

 

Why do you want to OC it? Because you can't play Crysis in very high 4xAA and 1920x1200? You won't be able to do that with OC anyways... And AFAIK there is currently no game but Crysis who is not playable on very high settings on the 8800m GTX/9800m GT. So if I were you, I would wait until the next mobile GPU is released and then you may upgrade your 5796 anyways with that ne GPU (hopefully)... instead of risking warranty right now.

 

LOL.. Don't warry I'm not a beginner

@minkang: It's strange.. I would work only and firstly on NiBitor.. however I don' t have any 9800M GT bios in my hands to work on.

 

Why not OC it? The card can be pushed so much more and has so much more potential? Why not get more juice of a card if you can? Also I want Nibitor because i want to play around with the voltages so i can get the 2d and thrtle at lower volatges so it uses less battery when im not plugged in.

 

Here it is! my OCed bios of 9800M GT @ 610 1525 945 @ 1.05v for extra and 0.8v 0.75v 0.75v for the other profiles, so undervolted..
and..a version @ 630 1600 970 @ 1.15v for extra and 0.8v for other profiles

You had to push rescan bios and then it can be recognized! If you want more, you know how modify it..
Obviously they are re-bringed to dev ID 060B so no problems.

Thanks to A55assin for the bios that no one else shared..

 

I Am Not Responsible Of Anything.
I Flashed It On My 8800m Gtx And Now Black Screen.. Be Careful

 

LOL! Better break out the Crysis Recovery USB Flash drive!

 

Not that im trying to discredit this but I was told to stay away from doing this until Nibitor had native support for the 9800M Gt as there would be a higher chance for a corrupted vbios which will give you no display.

 

Wait, have you benched perf and temp for the 1.15v vs the 1.05v? From what I understand, the actual voltage regulator in the card itself was set to 1.05v max and could not go over. At least that was how it was on the 8800M GTX. The 1.15v caused slight instability issues on the 88mgtx when i went above 1.05v. If it is actually running at 1.15 with performance and temperatures to prove it, the 9800M GT board would be better and archtecturally different from the 8800M GTX. Dell's 1730 8800M GTX cards could go to 1.15 and could hit 800/2000/980 with slightly modded cooling. One guy stuck his in his freezer while he ran 3D Mark and got a score of 18.5k with his X9000 XPS 1730 sli.

I ran stable at 630/1575/980 at 1.05v with temps well under the 90C thermal threshold.