Help me decide NP8660 or NP5796?

well im going to buy a laptop this will be my first one and i am having trouble on deciding which to get im not really going to carry it any where maby friends house, and travel. i dont mind the weight is not much of a differance between both laptops ill be carrying it on my bookbag any way. so yea im looking for a laptop i will pretty much be a desktop replacement but i still want to be carrying it around the house while watching tv, to the washroom =], and while eating lol im going to give my desktop to my sister. well any way the price between the two laptop aint much of a differance i want it to last long lets say 4 years and hopefully be futureproof i will be playing alot of games on this baby like call of duty 4, warhammer online, assasin creed, burn out paradise (when it comes out for pc), crysis (a must), and other coo games. i just want to play games with no lagg i dont mind playing on medium setting as long as no lagg =D. ok well like i said the price is not much of a differance only by like 200$-300$ the NP5796 has the glossy WUXGA which i want to bad the NP8660 dosnt have glossy WUXGA also i dont know if i should go with the Solid State hard drive with the NP8660 or with a 320Gig 72000RPM on the NP5796 and the NP5796 has the 9800GTX that will replace the SSD from the NP8660 so tell me what you guys think help me out here =] thank you so much.

now here are both laptops help me decide they both dont have OS i have my own disk so i save my self some money =]

Sager NP8660 (Built on Clevo M860TU) PRE ORDER
- 15.4" WUXGA "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Screen (1920x1200)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® T9600 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.80GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 35 watt
- 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9800M GT DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- None Standard
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires Vista 64-Bit to recognize Full 4GB)
- None Standard
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 128GB OCZ Core Series SSD (Serial-ATA II) ETA 7/25/2008
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link
- None Standard
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- None Standard
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Carying Case Optional (Select if desired)
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- None Standard
- None Standard
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Based Toll Free Tech Support
(Year2 & 3 Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
$2,792.00

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Sager NP5796 Custom Notebook (Built on Clevo M570TU)
- 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® T9600 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.80GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 35 watt
- 1,024MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9800M GTX DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable) (ETA Early August)
- None Standard
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires Vista 64-Bit to recognize Full 4GB)
- 2GB Intel® Robson Turbo Memory II
- NP579x Orange Frame Trim Color
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link
- None Standard
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- None Standard
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- None Standard
- None Standard
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Based Toll Free Tech Support
(Year2 & 3 Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
$2,957.00

 

If size and cost is not an option go with the 17".

• Bigger screen (especially if you are replacing your desktop with it)
• More internal space for cooling
• Format of the MXM card is established on several models so upgradability is more likely
• Excellent track record on a machine that has been around a long time (not brand new)
• The 15.4" is an unproven design and there have been heat issues from other notebooks that utilize the 15.4" footprint and this GPU
• WUXGA on a 15.4" screen is ridiculously small, if you go 15.4" go WSXGA+ IMHO
• Might want to consider the 3 year warranty upgrade if you are trying to make it last 4 years

I am not a huge fan of the SSD drives, I would recommend the 320 7,200 rpm
For the record, labor warranty's mean very little. You might as well just buy a new hard drive or stick of RAM and put it in yourself if you're out of warranty. By the time it's shipped, you are overcharged for parts and it is shipped back it is at the ridiculous price level already so you might as well do it yourself. The parts will cost you the most. Distributors want to charge anywhere from $600 to $750 for an LCD screen alone! I can send you pictures of how to change that, or a keyboard or just about anything else that is going to go wrong in 5 minutes yourself!

 

If you are on the fence then I agree with KillerNotebooks. Go with the 17". Your eyes will thank you.

 

sweet! that would be nice of you. im still thinking about it i probbly will most likely go for the NP5796 but i still want more thoughts =]

 

You can always go with the NP8660's WUXGA display (all other issues side) and increase the DPI so that fonts are more readable, etc. and that all normal tasks (productivity, web browsing, etc.) are all perfectly readable and clear.

Additionally, matte screens being less bright than glossy ones is less true than ever (KillerNotebooks mentioned this in a different thread), so if that were an issue with matte screens, you shouldn't worry too much.

This way, if you wanted the 8660, downscaling to lower non-native resolutions would result in a crisper image than if you had downscaled from 1680x1050.

I am not commenting on the other issues of 15.4 vs. 17, but as far as displays go, WUXGA is still a pretty good option IMHO.

 

That's true. Sometimes having the extra real estate, maybe for graphics design or something would be nice.

 

The extra labor warranty may not be that beneficial for easy repairs such as RAM, HDD, Keyboard etc.... but it can be useful for some of the later years if a motherboard swap is needed or something that involves tearing apart the chassis.

As others above have stated, the WUXGA and the extra real estate is nice to have in a 17".

 

True. There are times you would need it and since it doesn't cost anything how can you go wrong?

Also though, you and I both know though that they charge so much for those parts that you might as well just upgrade the whole chassis if the MB goes bad.

Sometimes when I get these price quotes for repair I just say, "Hey, will you buy it from me for that price? Because I'll buy a chassis, take it apart and ship it back to you and make triple what I paid for it!"

$600 for an LCD, $65 for a keyboard, $450 for a motherboard, $45 for a case bottom, $45 for a cover...

To give you an idea, I just traded in an Executioner I sold in 2006. Almost 2 years ago exactly. It had a T2500 processor. People forget how fast this stuff changes. Repairing a 2 or 3 year old computer is questionable. What am I going to use a T2500 for... an upgrade to my kids Furby?

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That is correct ^ Motherboard replacements and overall parts are not cheap.

 

yea i can tell i mean might as well buy a whole new notebook ^_^