Help me setup a barebones M570RU.

ACHI mode allows for NCQ, and a few other SATA specific features that you don't get in IDE mode. Running in IDE mode you are def. losing performance.

I'll have to get a hold of SVC and ask for a similar credit.

Edit: Ah, I found where the SATA function is located. For some stupid reason the SATA mode is tied to the Intel Robson feature. You have to enable the Robson feature in order for SATA mode to activate. It appears that one doesn't need to have a Robson module present. I activated the feature without a module present and the Intel RST is now correctly starting and showing that my main drive as running in SATA II mode.

 

Also, regarding getting credit for the TV Tuner card, I made a copy of the HTML for the laptop BEFORE I called them. Sure enough, they pulled the TV Tuner feature off the specs right after I called them on it. When I sent them the email, with the HTML, they couldn't dispute.

Unfortunatley it looks like they updated the specs on the 8700GT version as well. You may not be as lucky as I was.

This is for the 8800M GTX I bought, but maybe you can get somewhere with the htm file of mine.

** Nevermind, sorry. Nothing but roadblocks to posting today.
I can't upload a .htm file for ya. I will try to find time to convert it to something compatible for uploading.

Here's a PDF. Not clean but hte content is there.

 

Fortunately, I saved a copy of the page before they updated it. I asked for the same credit and they gave it to me. Awesome! I give svc.com major credit for stepping up and doing the right thing.

 

Lots to catch up on. Thanks Paralel for the mutual setup help.

Congrats on the refund. I also praise SVC.com for stepping up in my case. Do I get a finders fee or commission?

First, the Everest Ultimate. In the computer section I find sensors, but not a RAM sensor. Here is a screen shot.

Again, is it because it is a trial version? Honestly I don't know if RAM have sensors. Do you mean the ACPI (NB etc.) temps? I use CPUID HWMonitor.

I can't seem to upload the .12aSL BIOS.iso. I will try to find the link for you where I found it.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/207159-official-clevo-m57ru-faq-owners-lounge-91.html#post4505465

Finally, I don't have the Intel Turbo Robson whatever-the-heck either. Justin nicely steered me away as an expense not worth it. He was right because this rig with Win 7 boots fast anyway. Well when I Enable it, I get stuck there, literally can't arrow up/down/right/left and have to keep in Disabled to exit the BIOS. What the heck? And it states to the right that any changes require re-installation of the OS. Again, what do you mean by main drive? The M570RU only supports one drive, right?

**EDIT** - okay, noob move, I had to hit ESC after Enabling Intel Robson, BUT then I get Windows Won't Launch error. Do I just have to launch normally and deal every time, or ???
Help please.

 

Seems I may have to get that HTML off you, if you ordered the last piece with the 8700, I got the second-to-last one, which hasn't arrived yet for some reason. (I'm sitting on a Macbook right now, of all things!)

I do recall the page I ordered from saying included TV Tuner, something I was quite excited about. I'll check if mine has one when I crack it open to put in the hardware from my resting NP5793.

Thanks!

 

Huh, weird that you don't have RAM temps listed. It's possible it's because it's a trial edition. I'll send you a PM about that.

Here's what I see under that section:



RAM chip 1 is shown as GMCH1, RAM chip 2 is shown as GMCH2. For some reason chip 1 runs significantly hotter than chip 2 in my machine.

I said main drive because this system technically has 3 SATA ports, the connectors just aren't installed on the motherboard. As such the Intel RST see's there as being 3 SATA channels, with the first one being listed as the Main Drive or SATA Port 1.

Unfortunately, the BIOS isn't kidding when it says you will have to re-install the OS once you enable the ACHI mode in the BIOS. You installed Windows while the drive was in IDE mode, and as such the support for ACHI mode wasn't installed, as a result if you try to enable it now your Windows will indeed blue screen every time you try to start it.

You have to download the Intel RST software to USB key, blank the drive, then when you go to re-install windows load the Intel RST driver from the USB key, then your Windows will work fine in ACHI mode using the Intel RST drivers.

 

Is it really true that some notebooks don't have as much voltage as others? edit: i mean obviously a netbook has less

I mean, like comparing this to my m860etu... Would I possibly not be able to run my q9200 @ 2.9 and fx 3700m as a 1.05v gtx 280m m570ru? I thought they were nearly the same on that level.
or whatever the edition of that m570 is, the TU that can run quad? does it have more voltage?

If so, I guess that makes sense, but its also pretty strange. I mean something like going from a CFL to LED screen could make a difference in your laptops processing and graphics power??

unless I'm mistaken CFL inverters pull 12v but up to like 2a which is a lot.

Maybe you guys should try overclocking with your screen brightness down

 

Thanks for finding that link to the .12aSL BIOS, I now have full fan control through the Fn keys. Apparently the stock .12 BIOS lacks that ability. Also, the .12aSL BIOS has a higher revision KBC, being .11Sa, compared to the stock .10.

Now we just need to get our hands on that nebulous .13 BIOS revision...

Mine was 13th from the last, I ordered on the 3rd of Sept. Unfortunately, I deleted the MHT I created of the page once the refund showed up in my Paypal account.

 

I discovered what the problem was. I replaced the thermal pad on the chipset heatsink with AS5 without realizing that due to the two mounting screws the heatsink was no longer making contact with the chip without the thermal pad. I re-seated the heatsink so it makes contact with the chip by bending the two mounting points up and the temps on my primary piece of RAM have dropped by 25°C! It was being heated up by the cast-off heat from the chipset, which is right next to the first memory bank. Now that the chipset is properly dissipating heat the temps in my system have gone down across the board.

 

Paralel et.al.,
thanks for keeping this thread active as those of us who bought the old barebones M570RUs from SVC are actively trying to optimize a laptop that is no longer current.

Unfortunately I did not get to any computer work this weekend but instead spend some quality time with my wife and kids.

I still want to check my RAM temps, for curiosity, use a copper shim to replace the thermal pad on my GPU heatsink, update the Set FSB to v3 (since I didn't know about it until a week or two ago), and look into replacing the chipset heatsink.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/251746-how-change-chipset-heatsink-m57xru.html

Newegg.com - Enzotech CNB-S1L Forged copper 1100 Heatsinks only

 

I found where to enable SATA in the BIOS, but how do I get Intel RST running? Do I need to reinstall Win7 and F6 during install?

I thought RST was only needed for RAID, but I did a reinstall and can't tell if I'm running in ACHI or IDE. Where do I check for this?

Thanks.

 

Yes you have to reinstall your OS after adding the ACHI feature in BIOS

 

I think I got it. After reinstall I can just d/l RST and install. In RST, Manage, Advanced it shows SATA transfer mode: Generation 2. Plus it **EDIT (the BIOS)** shows the HDD connected to a SATA port.

Is this correct or did I need to do an F6 iastor...etc driver install during the Win 7 install?

 

As long as the RST software loads and shows SATA Gen 2 you're all set.

 

F6 install is only needed for windows XP. Vista and 7 have integrated AHCI drivers and will simply use them until you install intel RST.

 

Perfect, thanks Paralel and theriko. Good to know. I'm running XP still on my new desktop I build earlier this year, so this is my first experience with either Vista or Win 7.

 

Ok, so I'm re-setting up the second barebones M570RU with identical components. This time I properly set up AHCI and Intel RST to run the HD on SATA 2, hence the need to reinstall Win7. I updated the BIOS (.12aSL) and the KBC (.11Sa).

Please bare with me. I'm not a PC genius, but a quick learner.

Also (why I'm posting), I am beating my head against the wall on the webcam software (BisonCam or Videoview). The first laptop had some troubles, maybe because I'm running Win7, but eventually I got it to work. They have the same USB2.0 2M Webcam. Driver for both is 6.10.27.2. The first laptop successfully uses BisonCam Ver 6.0.3264.02.1

The only difference between the 2 laptops is the first hasn't been updated to AHCI/Intel RST.

On the second laptop, I seem to get "Can't Open Registry Key" using Videoview. It works for a moment, telling me there isn't really a problem with the cam itself, and I can see the cam working in Skype.

In BisonCam, it tells me to "Please turn on the camera power...". Well, the cam is on (works in Skype). In fact, I didn't learn about this Fn+10 until I ran into this issue and researched. The first laptop works fine without me knowing I was supposed to turn on the cam before installing the Bison/Vid applications.

So, what is the problem? Is it because the second laptop is running AHCI mode and not IDE like the first laptop?

Maybe there is another video capture software I can use.

Please help. I've been stuck on this for about a week. Thanks.

 

Don't forget to update to BIOS .13aSL.

As far as the problem you have run into the with cam, I doubt the ACHI mode is having any impact on this. It's not impossible, but fairly unlikely. I'm sure you've tried both of these solutions, but I'll mention them anyway, have you tried running the problematic program in administrator mode? Also, have you checked the interface cable for the camera on the motherboard to make sure it didn't come loose? In shipping it's entirely possible the cable was knocked slightly loose, just enough to form a partial connection where it is recognized but will error out when you actually try to access it.

I found some updated drivers for the cam somewhere when I first set my system up, I don't remember what version they are. Once I get my place put back together (probably by tonight) I'll take a look at them and if they are a new version I'll upload it for you to give it a shot.

 

That is a known issue with the camera software, there have been threads about it and others have suggested alternate programs (can't remember any off hand tho...). I personally only use the cam for skype, so it doesn't affect me.

 

Thanks Paralel and theriko for input.

Ya, I got the .13aSL .iso from the Clevo BIOS thread. I heard the KBC should always be flashed first, but I already have updated (I believe) .11 KBC/EC. Do I still need to flash KBC first or can I go straight to the .13aSL BIOS update?

Ya, I doubted the AHCI too, but other than that and S/Ns, the two I have are identical - or so I thought.

I tried running as admin, and since I have Win 7 Pro, I even tried compatibility mode to Vista(64) and XP(32).

The issue must be the BisonCam and/or VideoView applications, because the cam works in Skype. I've tried a bunch of application/drivers I've gotten from Sager

I have the assembly manual from theriko's sig, but it doesn't show the screen/display disassembly nor the cam connections. I did remove the hinge covers and followed the single wire (not the bundle) to termination and ensured a tight connection.

I'm just whinning a bit cuz I hoped to set this one up quickly/easily and sell it, so I wanted it to be perfect. The first one has quite a few hours doing the research here at NBR to update KBC/BIOS, vBIOS with OC, SetFSB, etc., and that is the one I want to keep. I wish the one I wanted to keep was the one with the issue.

 

I too had already the 11Sa version from a previous update with the 12SL SBIOS.

Just to be sure that nothing changed, I flashed it over. Just a couple of seconds and its done.

Always first the KB/EC, restart and then the SBIOS.

 

Thanks for the tip Audigy. It certainly would be prudent to flash the EC first.

BTW, your SetFSB thread contribution is magnificent.

 

I too got 2 of theses laptops from SVC.

I am trying to flash the bios to the latest version like you guys did, and every time i follow the clevo bios flash guide it does not successfully create a bootable flash drive.

the drive is formatted but still blank, ie no DOS files.

anyone got ny advice, and where are you geting the modded bios from???, the guide just has the stock 13 bios.

 

I just happened to be reading about this so try this guide for bootable DOS usb stick:
Guide to Video BIOS flashing | techPowerUp

 

thanks for the help, got it all flashed now.

now to test out overclocking the cpu.

I tried setfsb but everytime i set i step faster it freezes.

Do i need to know the PLL???

i am running a T5750, got it for $50.00, looking to get a x9000 or x7900, or t9300.

do i need a X cpu to overclock ??? or is that only for bios overclocking???

will setfsb work with any cpu???

 

The PLL is ICS9LPR316AGLF for this machine. The X CPU allows multiplier overclocking through bios (up to 2x over) or via throttlestop (as much as you like) - my X9000 will run at up to 3.6GHZ (4x over)

 

t9300 is probably the best CPU for you.

I have heard m570ru users can overclock their FSB quite a bit. Its the TU that have limitations there, and even on those platforms you can get 333mhz which equates to a 66mhz FSB OC so about .66ghz if the CPU has a 10X multi (E. G. t9550 2.66>3.33ghz)
m570ru is pm965 which starts at 200mhz & higher multis, so with an FSB increase of still only 66mhz you could get more like .8ghz CPU OC and hit 3.3ghz with the t9300.

 

how can i monitor my cpu temps so i can be careful not to fry my T5750.

 

umm

you can google 'CPU temp'

 

Hardware Monitor CPUID?
CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

 

btw - this is not true.

using regedit to switch from IDE to SATA

I did this on my M570RU a week ago. Originally I did not setup the BIOS for SATA during initial OS loading and subsequently could not install Intel RST. I used regedit, reboot and update BIOS which loads drivers for SATA, then a second reboot allowed installation of Intel RST.

Saved me from having to reload the OS, all programs, SetFSB, etc.

SWEET!