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    Help quick! It's the first day of college and my computer exploded!!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by vestibule1443, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. vestibule1443

    vestibule1443 Notebook Evangelist

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    I have an m860tu and I thought it would be a good idea to reformat and install a new windows version (windows 7 ultimate from home premium) before classes started. All my course info, calendar and resume and all the non academic stuff i need right away are on it The reformat and backup process went totally fine but starting intermittently and now happening almost constantly my screen becomes unviewable because of screen artifacts, it even happens before post now. It first started after installing an update so I did a system restore, then I deleted the Nvidia driver to just use the default VGA driver and I thought it worked until it started happening today. I've checked the temps and they all seem normal too. I can't even see the scene on post because it's just covered in gray cross sections of artifacts. The first major time it happened the bios gave me 3 consecutive beeps but I can't find that code anywhere in the phoenix bios beep codes. I thought it had to be a hardware issue so I opened up the case and there was barely any dust I just cleaned it recently.

    I'm desperately trying to avoid the conclusion that the gpu has failed but that seems like what it is. What can I do? Is there anything else to try? Can someone help me troubleshoot?
     
  2. Blacky

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    Yeap, the GPU is dead. Bake it or get a new one.
     
  3. vestibule1443

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    What do you mean bake it?
     
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    can you post a pic of your screen using a mobile or camera so we can say for sure its a knakered graphics card.

    also did you take out the extra warranty when you bought it and if so contact your reseller and if not contact ebay.

    im running the 9800GT card and they are like gold dust and very hard to find. if you do find one they will cost mucho $£$£$£
     
  6. vestibule1443

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    Here is a pic, it was up until this morning only doing it intermittently, but now i cant get it to post without showing something like this.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/killjoy1443/Picture.jpg

    I got it more than 2 years ago now, so I have no warranty.

    would I be able to install a video card other than the 9800GT? Would an 8800gtx work? And wasn't there a GTS and a couple others? If I would have to reformat that wouldnt be so bad, I literally did like 2 days before this happened so I won't have lost a thing.
     
  7. MrDJ

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    that does look like the gpu card but im no expert. have you checked the ribbon screen connection to see if its lose.
    the 9800gts was the lower card to the 9800gt and the 260 was its replacement.
     
  8. vestibule1443

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    I cracked open the case last night to take a look, didn't see any ribbon anywhere near the GPU actually, do you have a pic or schematic?

    I'm honestly not terribly concerned with the performance of the graphics card anymore, I'm in grad school and the most I have time for are games on my iPhone. So as long as it would allow me to see my freaking screen I'd be happy.
     
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    Because you had the beeping you should try removing the card and reseating it first.

    Yeah the baking method does work...well for me anyways. I have done it a few times on my 9800m gtx. I could have left it in a few minutes longer than 8-10mins making it maybe last longer. I didn't want to melt somthing and ruin it completely though.

    Anyways two of the times I had vertical lines at boot but could still see a good portion. One time I had grey and red squares and lines covering the entire screen almost like the pic you showed.

    Looking for a new card soon but hey it has worked in the meantime. :)
     
  10. vestibule1443

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    I know the card is suppposed to be removable, but does it have any solder holding it down that I need to worry about?
     
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    I've seen quite a few threads about 9800M GT's that failed in M860TU's.

    Perhaps this is why it was discontinued.

    None at all, just remove the screws, lift, and pull.
     
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    I'd bake it. Even a little toaster should do fine.
     
  13. vestibule1443

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    I've got to be missing something about removing this gpu to reseat it. The heat pipe is over it and it certainly doesn't look like it's budging... Anyone have instructions by chance?
     
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    I can only say how my 9800m gtx fits in the M570TU so it may be a lot different.

    So I have 4 screws holding down the heatsink on the top of the card. They are labeled 1-4. You have to reverse the order supposedly when taking things out so remove from 4-1. Then the heatsink can be taken off.

    Then the screws holding the actual card down are numbered 5-7 so remove in order 7-5. Then you should be able to lift it out.
     
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    Here are several GPU's that will fit the M860TU available on eBay.

    eBay search results
     
  16. theriko

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    service manual in my sig for disassembly instructions
     
  17. vestibule1443

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    Thanks for the service manual and ebay results. Which MXM compatibility do I need? Is it mxm 2.1?

    would there be any bios or operating system problems if I installed a different model videocard?

    I'd obviously need to get new thermal grease as well correct?


    While I'm at it, would this be a good immediate replacement? It seems to have equal specs sans the videocard and hdmi (I can't find the native resolution actually). http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satel...4-Inch/dp/B003M5GVJY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
     
  18. Bytales

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    hehehe, of topic.
    Do you know what gold dust acctualy is ?

    If you don't know, and you just used it as an expresion let me enligthen you:

    Gold dust reffers to a special form of gold.
    This special form is not unique to gold, certain other elements can exist in this form.
    This form is called mono atomic. In monoatomic form, the gold atoms are free from each other compared to metallic gold where atoms exist in a crystal like mettal lattice/array.
    Gold in monoatomic form doesn't exhibit any more the propreties of metallic gold and appear from the exterior as a completly different material.
    It look like white snow, and has a snow like dust like appearence. It also exhibits certain new propreties, like superconductivity regardless the ambiant temeperature (therefore it is superconductor at room temeperature)
    As i said other elements can be found in this way, copper silver, indium, the elements in the platinum group (platinum, rhodium iridium osmium ruthenium palladium) and it seems many more.

    If you guys don't know what superconductivity is, it is a proprety of a certain material that allow current to flow with zero resistance, practicaly a loop of superconductive wire condcutcs a current without a power source, for ever.
    The problem is superconductivity is observed at ultra low temperatures, liquid nitrogen like and lower temeperatures, and there is a quest to found material superconductive at high, "room temeperature"

    One of the interesting parts about this superconductive monoatomic elements is that they exhibit certain unique like propreties and have special roles in the human body.
    For instance monoatomic iridium at room temeprature is not affected by gravitation.
    Inside the body the monoatomic superconductive elements are like optic fiber in a network of copper fiber wires. They allow nervous current to flow with incredible speed. The superconductivity has been observed inside the human body, but nobody could tell what could cause it.
    It is these very monoatomic elements that cause the superconductivity, because 1% of the dry matter of our brain is half monoatomic rhodium half monoatomic iridium. The reason these elements could not be detected in the first place is because of their very nature. In a monoatomic element, the atom itself uses up all it valence to bond with itself forming what is know as cooper pairs, thus rendering it chemicali inert, and it cannot be detected throur usual chemitry detection methods.
    Because the elements in this form are chemicaly inert it is safe to use them directly by ingesting them.
    Inside the body they are being used by the body, (i could go on about biologic transmutation but i don't want to right now) and the body thus can communicate with it's various compartements in a very fast manner thus increasing astronomicaly it's healing ability.
    In fact 0.2 mili grams !!! per day taken for 7 days of a "dust" composed of 50% monoatomic iridium and 50% monoatomic rhodium, "cures" (the dust itself doesn't cure anything, it's the body that does the curing as it gets increased healing ability) every disease known to man, like late stage aids and every form of cancer.

    Apart from the fact that you can take it by ingesting it(monoatomic elements), there are ways you can increase the capacity of biological trasnmutation and create monoatomic elements directly inside your body from lower mass elements.
    In fact this is exactly the biological trasnmutation: a proces a nuclear fusion. yap, and it happens inside your body, like in the nuclear reactor, only at "room temperature".
    Our body truly is a marvel to behold.

    So my guess is you didn't even know what you were talking about when you said gold dust.
    Well, now you know.
     
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    Interesting!
    thanks for the lesson :)
     
  20. moral hazard

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    So there is a cure for cancer?
     
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    Of course there is. It is not widely known because of the big interests in the pharmaceutical industry. And this is just one way. Another way would be to stop eating, drink only water (during the day, guided by thirst) and drink your urine in the morning, and in about 30 40 50 days (depends on how much you can stay without eating, and this depends on the fat deposits, the more fat, the more you can stay without eating, its called fasting) you are free of most diseases.

    In fact fasting and drinking urine every day, the morning one, cures tuberculosis in 40 days. It's cheap and works everytime, and everyone can do it. The problem is few ppl know of this.

    So yah, there are things out there you won't ever hear about it on discovery chanell. That doesn't mean they don't exist.

    In fact, there are certain fruits or plants, that have high amount of monoatomic elements, and eating those on a daily basis GREATLY, and i mean GREATLY help in reducing the cancer risk, and even heal it if taken day by day. Such fruits with high amount of monoatomic rhodium and iridium, are noni (noni juice), watercress, aloe vera extract, and a few others...

    Congratulations, you have just learned of 2 ways to cure every disease there is out there. I myself know of some other ways too.

    Not only there is a cure, but there are multiple ways to get healing. That's the amazing part.

    But this is way OFF TOPIC. :) and i have to apologize for that, but i just felt i had to share this info. Maybe someone acctualy uses it and gets better. Ppl need to know this kind of info, and stop the mass hystheria of drug companies f**k**g you with your own money. Because the fact of the matter is being healthy not also is cheap and non expensive, but is at everyone's disposal.
     
  22. Cookie

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    strong cancer discussion
     
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    The screenshot you posted looks the same way mine did when the video cable to the LCD screen was getting pinched by the LCD hinge. I would personally try to verify what the problem is first, before assuming it is the video card.

    The normal test to see if display corruption is due to the video cable/LCD screen or the graphics card is to plug your laptop into your TV or other external monitor. You can use an s-video cable, VGA cable, or the one of the more modern connectors like DVI or HDMI (if your laptop has it).

    If there is no display corruption on the external monitor, then it is likely to be related to the video cable or your laptop LCD. If however it still appears on the external display, then it is more likely to be graphics card (or possibly MoB) related.

    Either way, I would try this before trying to bake anything except a cake.