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    Help, problem with Clevo P170em

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Ignaciotro, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello .

    My laptop (clevo p170em) have a problem. When powered on only show the power button light in white and the bluetooth in orange. Then show three blinking lights (num lock, caps lock, scroll lock) and the fan runs, and past few seconds then the laptop powered itself off. The screen always black

    you tell me what happens, or what does that code indicate?

    Best regards

    Ignacio
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    it basicially means Graphicscard is dead.
     
  3. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    F...! Sure? Because a new graphics card is minimum 160€
     
  4. Danishblunt

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    You can try and bake it in an oven. The blink and fan spinning is basicially happening because your notebook can't detect the temp sensors of your card.

    Also upgrading your card might not be a bad idea tho, you can get much more performance in games with an upgrade.



    here is a video on how linus was doing it.
     
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  5. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    thank you very much friend. can you tell me what temperature and how long is the card in the oven? sorry but my english is not good enough to get to understand it in the video
     
  6. Danishblunt

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    I've never used an oven to do this, always used a heatgun instead. So i'd say you should do it like this:
    - Preheat oven to 200c
    - Clean you card with isopropylalcohol
    - make small aluminium balls with aluminium foil like this:
    [​IMG]
    - Put card into 200c oven for around 7 minutes
    - Take out the card
    - Let it cool down for 20-30mins
    - Check if it works on notebook.

    Post your results here on the forums.
     
  7. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    OP please remove GPU board and try to power on

    Plus, what GPU?
     
  8. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, i'll try this and post here. Thanks a lot
     
  9. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is a Nvidia Gforce GTX670m 1,5gb
     
  10. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    removing the graphics card does exactly the same as with it.

    I will do what indicated Danishblunt next week and I will tell you if there has been luck
     
  11. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello again. being bad the nvidia, I can test the computer (to check the rest of components) with the integrated graphics card? if this is possible, what would it take to make the clevo p170em boot using the integrated graphics card and forget about the dedicated? start normally?
     
  12. Danishblunt

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    That's the thing, you don't have an integrated GPU, optimus first came out along with the ivy bridge. You're completely stuck with the dedicated GPU.

    chances of your dedicated GPU coming back to life with the oven is insanely high. So don't worry to much about it, I would however play around with the voltage and maybe considering applying some really high quality thermal compound like liquid metal or if u're to scared of that kryonaut. If u keep your temps really low, you could actually run the card for years.
     
  13. Ignaciotro

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    okay, I got it. Thank you very much for replying so quickly and for the information. It is helping me a lot. I will keep you informed and put here what i are doing and the result.

    thank you very much again
     
  14. Danishblunt

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    When considering a new graphicscard for your P170EM, you should try and get something like an AMD HD 8970M, its the best price per performance card and is still rather beastly. It would mop the floor with your old GTX 670M. Even a GTX 675M SLI system would not stand a chance against the AMD Card.

    Considering ur sandy bridge CPU and your system as such, i'd strongly recommend you going for that update, it would boost your performance in games massively.

    You could buy it from here:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MSI-GX6...917768?hash=item2382d5fe88:g:6ncAAOSwWWxY-X6l
     
  15. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK thanks. I'll keep it in mind in case my nvidia does not come back to life. for the moment i do not want to spend more money
     
  16. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    I doubt he has the money to spend on such a card. Since he's likely one of the guys who would want to get the best performance per buck. In case of price per performance, the AMD card destroys the GTX 1060.

    You can read of his post:
    That he obviously does not have the money to spend on. So going for the AMD Card is by far the best choice he could make, given his situation.
     
  18. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    may be but my post was only a useful information if OP would like have same performances (+350% more than 670m) of a new laptop with a gtx1060 :)
     
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    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    yes, I do not want to spend more money because I bought it second hand and in theory the laptop worked but this problem has appeared. so I'm not interested in spending more on it, but would have bought something new.
     
  20. Danishblunt

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    Pretty sure that the GTX 1060 is more than only 350% faster than the GTX 670M. The AMD is already around 2.5times the performance of the GTX 670M, while the GTX 1060M is twice as strong as the AMD, meaning the 1060 is probably more than 500% faster in reality.

    However, the GTX 1060 is 575USD while the AMD card is 152USD. Also I really don't know if the GTX 1060 won't be bottlenecked by the sandy bridge CPU as well. I honestly think that the GTX 1060, unless we talk extreme edition CPU might be wasted.

    Clevos are actually extremely durable, the only issues that are happening are that the GTX 4xx - GTX 6xx series had weak solder and therefore are dying right now, not only that, but the AMD HD 6xxx - 7xxx series are also dying as well. Both companies started to use higher quality material to build their GPU's so basicially cards from the GTX 7xx series and HD 8xxx series upwards are really hard to kill.

    I would not be suprised if the previous owner actually scammed you, by repairing the GTX 670M in the oven and then sold it to you. As I already mentioned, the oven fix is only temporarily, that's why i suggested buying a new card like the HD 8xxx so that you not only have something that actually lasts way longer, but also something that runs newer games.







    As you can see, the card is still VERY capable. So i'd defnitely consider it as a "last update" for your used notebook.
     
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  21. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    that in any case all opinions and supports are well received

    I thank you
     
  22. Ignaciotro

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    Already, it is what I am beginning to think that is what has happened because it has not been normal. he worked and I did not. we'll see where it ends
     
  23. Danishblunt

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    As I said, the oven will very likely fix it, but it's only temporary.

    I don't know what you're doing with your notebook, if you intend to play new games, then get the AMD GPU, if u're doing something else or just playing something really lightweight games, then go for good thermal compound and make sure the notebook is cool at all times, then the oven fix will let it last longer, maybe even years.
     
  24. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    I think that a cpu like i7-2670qm could manage a gtx1060
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Clevo-P170EM-Notebook.73442.0.html

    here a comparison with a i7-6700hq
    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2670QM/m34954vs1982




    edit
    no no no sorry my bad a i7-2670qm is not enough :confused:
    these could be better:
    i7-2760qm
    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2760QM/m34954vsm949
    i7-2860qm
    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2860QM/m34954vsm103
    i7-2920XM
    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2920XM/m34954vsm459
    i7-2960XM
    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2960XM/m34954vsm2390
     
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    The x7xx and above did tend to have a fair jump in frequency back then.
     
  26. Ignaciotro

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    a question. today I have tried to remove all ram and boot the clevo, and do the same. When removing the memory should not it beep at boot? will not the motherboard be the wrong one?
     
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    No memory will result in no POST, but the system will not beep or throw any alarm. Usually it will power on, then off after a short period of time.
     
  28. Ignaciotro

    Ignaciotro Notebook Enthusiast

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    okay. I asked because today talking to a friend who has a computer store told me that all the computers that give alarm with beeps if there was no memory ram. and that this when not doing it was the bad motherboard
     
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    That could depend on the BIOS developer. Many systems (desktops included) I've tested will often go into a boot loop, no alarm. Clevo systems tend to simply not POST.
     
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    Ok. it is the insecurity of the one who does not know. Thank you very much for the answers