Hey Guys, Need Some Info on the 5760/5750

G'day everyone!

Well, I have a bit of a situation on my hands..if it were a perfect world (and I wasn't a poor-azz college student) my dream laptop is the Sager 5760..however, even with the new 300.00 off promotion, I'm finding it tough to locate the money for said lappy. I'm curious as to what kind of graphics performance drop off to be expected if I went with the 5750 which has the ATI x1600 as opposed to the Go 9570GTX.

Everything else can be spec'ed the way I like it, and i'm not exactly a cutting edge gamer or anything..but I'm an Aviation major so i'd like to be able to run games such as Flight Sim X and some of the later first person shooters flawlessly or at least nearly so. I'd also like to try my hand at Supreme Commander, which I understand will be quite demanding. So, amidst all this rambling, I'd love it if Gophn and some others would chime in on what sort of performance loss would be expected between the 5760 and 5750.

Also, could anyone elaborate on the ATI x1600's "with up to 512MB HyperMemory" comment? Does it not originally come with 512MB? What's the deal?

 

According to this thread:

http://forums.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39568

The x1600 is considered to be a performance card and should give you a good amount of power. Since I have no experience with this card, you should read the following thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=74146

It's giving you some general performance marks for the x1600 and its nVidia equivalent. I am unaware what resolution you plan to game in though.

I don't know what to say about "HyperMemory" though.

 

It's only 256MB of dedicated memory, and can borrow 256MB of system RAM. Kind of a way for them to misguide you on true performance.

 

Ideally native resolution..ala 1680x1050

 

the 7950 gtx is much much better it has double dedicated memory and faster clock speeds it is the ulimate card at the moment

 

I know it's a far superior card man, i'm just looking for guesses on how big of a drop off I am looking at? Like I said, i'm not a cutting edge gamer, but I definately dabble in moderately taxing games and i'm just completely unfamiliar with ATI products.

 

As stated by eiolon, it will be plenty of video card for the gaming you describe. You don't need the 7950 GTX and probably could never tell the difference between it and the X1600 with what you would be doing.

 

Thanks for the info Donald..i just get stressed out easily by large purchase decisions (who doesn't). I've been saving like mad in hopes of catching the current promotion for the 5760 because i'm always really concerned about future proofing somewhat (next 3 years at least), but I'm starting to feel fairly confident that I'll fall short.

 

buy 5760 if you are in us.

 

Great input there.

As for the 5750 and the ATI X1600 card, I think it should be good enough for your needs. I have a 5750 (see my signature for the specs) and I can run games pretty well. The laptop will last me until I graduate from University (in 2010). And so far I am 100% satisfied with it.
I haven't been playing many games on it lately. The most recent game was Battlefield 2142. It runs it very nicely.

If you're on a budget then go for the 5750. It's a fantastic notebook and I think it'll be great for your needs.

 

You seem like a "give me a number" kind of guy.

The performance drop off is going to be significant, but my guess like everyone else's is that given your needs TODAY the 5750 will suffice...long term, maybe not

I went trolling for comparable scores and take this for what it is worth being synthetic benchmarks, but a system with the geforce go 7950 registered a 3dmark 2006 of 5130, and the ati mobility x1600 registered a score of 1734.

Otherwise, the two systems had identical CPU and memory.

That is a pretty significant gain--almost 300 percent.

Again...synthetic benchmark so real world numbers will vary, but that is nothing to sneeze at.

 

How much do you plan on spending? For $2k you can get the Toshiba P105 with a Go7900GTX 512MB.

 

Well with student loan refunds and current savings and the like, I'd be hard pressed for more than 1500$..but I'm absolutely in love with the chassis design and repuation of the M570U, so the allure remains of taking a step down GPU strength wise, but still retaining everything else I like. Like I said before, I'm not a cutting edge gamer, but I still enjoy my computer games. The majority of my time is sunk into being a student, aviator, and a musician (Ever since I kicked my Everquest addiction like 3 years ago that is, hahaha)

I imagine the 5750 with a T7200 (2.0) would be plenty successful in running audio/studio editing, wouldn't it?

Thibault, you run pretty BF 2142 pretty smoothly you say? I doubt I'd be playing a game that's more taxing on a GPU than that..so that comes as wonderful news to me!! What resolution do you typically play it in??

 

You'd be correct Gerry! I like my cold hard facts and figures. Thanks for digging that up for me!

 

I run BF2142 flawlessly on my system.

 

Awesome! What resolution do you typically play in pyro?

 

I see; with a $1,500 budget the NP5750 looks like a great option. The only machine that you can get in your budget with a Go7900 is the Dell E1705 through the use of Dell Coupons. Personally I don't like it because it is low quality and is all-around boring.

Yes, the T7200 would be plenty powerful for all tasks. Make sure you have a lot of RAM (2GB ideal). You can get a 2GB RAM kit aftermarket from Newegg.com for around $110 - $115.

 

I completely agree about the Dell bit Chaz, my parents back home and I have used Dell virtually always due to my mother getting some sort of nice deal for them through her bank because they buy in bulk..even on the nicer customized Dells that I've gotten for myself over the years always seem to have a lifetime of about 2 years max..then all sorts of random things start going haywire and it generally just becomes a day to day hassle to even use simple software. Not to mention that Dell considers it warranty sacrilege to break the seal on your computer's casing! That's where this new Clevo comes in

Definately 2GB for the ram..everything is going to be customized optimally if I go this route (i.e. 100GB 7200RPM Harddrive, 2gigs ram, T7200 etc) with the only difference being the graphics card. (Even if it ends up being a pinch over 1500$)

 

I don't know how fast you could aquire money but if you only have $1500 now you could get a barebones 5760 from RJTech and then get the other parts as you get the money. But if it's going to take you awhile to get money for the other parts it wouldn't be worth it.

 

A valid point and I've considered this..but this will be my first laptop and though i'm accustomed to doing relatively simple tasks inside computers (RAM removal / installation and a few desktop CPU installs) I fear that I would FUBAR the whole thing and be left feeling spiteful to all living people with working computers (most of all myself) hahaha

 

1024x768 with maxed settings. Please note I'm also running on an underclocked HEL80's 7600Go. I've played with resolutions as high as 1400x1050 (no true widescreen report, don't care what guide you read, it's not true) but I get higher SUSTAINED frame rate at this setting. The overall look and feel is also much richer because of the detail I couldn't achieve with sustained frame rates on the higher settings.

Even my roomie runs the game on the same settings as me with his desktop and x1800XT.