High 780M GPU Temps During Gameplay 85C ?

I'm playing Hitman Absolution on Ultra Settings / 4x MSAA on my Sager 170SM with 780M GPU. After about 1 hr of gameplay, the GPU is reaching about 84C. CPU is at about 60C. Ambient temps I would say are about 85-90F / 29C. Are these gpu temps ok?

 

A tad high but otherwise ok.
You might want to check and do a repaste on GPU only and only if the temps go above this. Are other games played having similar temp on the 780m?

 

I also tried playing NBA 2k13 on this, and GPU temps never went above 61C. I will be trying other games as well. Oh, and the GPU did touch 87C at one point during some heavier fighting scenes in Hitman.

 

This is normal. P170SM still has the old HS, so it migt cause high temps. P157SM, P177SM uses new improved HS and cuts the temps by 6-8C. Try to check what kind of HS do you have and ask your reseller if it's possible to order the one from the P157SM/177SM models. It should fit right in)

 

Thanks. I purchased my laotop from XoticPC, would anyone from them be able to advise on how these temps are looking and if I could change the heatsink?

Also, I just run the 3dmark11 benchmark, and these are my results: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Notebook P17SM

I got a score of 6861, which is below the 7K mark that most people are hitting. I am concerned this is due to throttling being done by the GPU. My GPU temps also hit a peak of 91C during the benchmark. These temps are starting to really worry me.

Edit: I just ran only the benchmark test (without the visual only demos before the benchmark) and I got a 7647 score): http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6899898

 

Also another question i have is, when people post GPU temps after running 3dmark 11 and related benchmarks, do they force the fan to max temp via fn + 1 ? I just did that, rather than relying on the fan to automatically set its speed, and the max temp I got was 82C during 3dmark 11 instead of the 93c i was getting previously. This is obviously much better, but would forcing to max fan be considered cheating and simply masking the underlying problem ?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

 

No, they usually don't use FN+1, only if OC'ed. If you're reaching 92-93C the GPU throttles (780M - 92C!). Seems that yout HS is not seated properly, try to take it out and bend a little towards the GPU die and install back again. Guess 780M shouldn't run higher than 80C with fans on auto

 

The 780m is designed to clock higher if it has temperature room and perform faster so you will tend to see higher temps.

 

Ok, if I leave the fan on auto, its slowly creeping up to 92C, I would say after 45 minutes of gaming on Hitman or say 4 consecutive runs of 3dmark 11.

Less demanding games like NBA 2k13, the GPU is sitting at around 62C.

Any more thoughts on what I should do while I await a response from my reseller ?

Should I try repasting ? I am worried about doing it myself however. How hard is it to do without breaking the components and doing it correctly ?

 

If you do it correctly you would never break anything, with a re-paste you should never be touching much.

 

aaznblue not hard at all, just make sure to take off the HS carefully. You can also flash the modded vbios and decrease the voltage by 0.05V it can save probably 2-4C

Visit here:
Kepler Vbios MODS

 

I've decided to try repasting the GPU on my own. Bought some Artic MX-4 and 70% alcohol rubbing pads. Will report back here once done to see how results are. Repasting does look promising, especially on the 150/170SM series models. I'm looking at the below thread, both posters saw drops of 10-20C after repaasting:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/725032-do-i-need-repaste-780m.html

I'll be more than happy if it yileds the same results for me !

 

Hi aaznblue, is there any good news after changed to MX-4? Actually I'm using MX-4 in my P177SM, but I'm still not satisfied with the temperature.

 

Hoping I won't need a repaste. Mine is coming to me from PWN PCs, overclocked straight off the bat, so any heat issues should have been picked up by them in the testing. Plus they are much smaller company and hand-build every PC themselves - mine was built by a chap called Andy - I trust that he did his job right!

 

Mine was built by Andy too. It's also back in for repair with Andy(no fault of his, I broke it myself).

The 780m runs very hot and I don't think the cooling in the P1xxSM series ais very good. It does a job, but doesn't do it brilliantly. Be interesting to see how your 17" model handlings the OC'ing temps.

 

Interesting indeed. I'd like to give it a try when mine arrives. I've never done my own repaste job, but I'm fully ready to do it if it proves beneficial for the OC I may apply to mine.

 

Thanks for that, I'll be doing that. +rep.

 

How true is this?
I'll be able to get hold of these next month

 

You'd better check it first! Post a picture) I don't really know what was the story with the HS on SM models, but notebookcheck got a lot of people confused with an early reviews. They posted pictures with 2013 models and last year HS installed. Also few people reported they received thei machines with the same old-type HS.

 

AFAIK they all have the new design, the notebookcheck ones were early samples/prototypes.

 

Hi i have a orign PC eon17-s (p177sm) with the gtx 780 bought a month ago and im hitting 94'c (stock) (room is 30+) so i bought sone phoyba nanogrease and will be doing a re-paste asap anyone know where i can find a guide for this pc? and also if they have done it did it drop the temps?

 

Mine is hitting the 90's too. I'm repasting today. Will let you know what happens.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the 780m in my P150SM just runs hot. Nothing I can do about it.

 

what temps are you getting ?
im doing a live chat with a guy from nVidea and he said it should be under 85'c with full load. Are we all using clevo/sager chassis by any chance if so that might be the problem because it looks like people can stay under 90'c with OC i cant even do that underclocked!

 

I was hitting 94 degrees. Throttling starts at 92 degrees.

It seems that the 780m runs cooler in MSI and Alienwares. The Clevos just run hot. Theres no magic answer, I'm a little dissapointed.

 

My P170SM based Vortex IV gets up to 93 degrees during Crysis 3. It reduces the boost clock a bit but other than that it doesn't seem phased.

I will probably do a repaste at some point.

EDIT: Just seen the improvements in the 780M thread linked above. All other jobs cancelled this evening (by Jobs I mean playing Crysis 3 ) and repaste on the cards.

 

My 780M in P157SM I have not seen go above 77 in BF3, even with me overclocking it.

With V-sync on it generally stays in upper 60's (I often switch on and off depending on how it plays). At least in my case it runs much cooler vs. my old P150HM w/ 580M.

I am running the 326.xx beta drivers. I suspect some of this may be the fan profiles. It seems to ramp to full speed vs. my old P150HM I could hit Fn+1 even when it was in 80s and it would go faster and cool a tad better vs. this one already being at max speed.

Overall I am happy with the temps. CPU I wish was a tad cooler. mine gets to 80s with max fans on w/ V-sync off playing BF3 but I guess that's considered okay too.

Be interested to see how BF4 runs when it's out.

My machine is claimed to come with IC7 from sager FWIW...

 

The 580M was a very hot chip! With the 780M everyone has been on the safer side with fan profiles so they are more aggressive this time round.

 

How did it go did you get any improvements and if you havent done it yet care to take some photo's of the processes

 

How, how are you getting 70's? I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong here...

I saw no improvement in temperatures except for a one degree improvement at idle from 35 to 34.

I have some pictures attached in the thread I made. And people have been giving advice which you may find useful.

I just don't know what the magic trick is for people to get such cool temps

 

Didn't anyone tell you not to believe everything someone says on the internet? Often people don't tell the whole story. Who knows, maybe he has his laptop in his freezer.

Anyway, don't worry about what he gets, worry about what you get. You should read up on binning. That is usually the answer to anything related to CPU/GPU when someone asked, how come you can do "____" and I can't do "_____"
- When it comes to CPU/GPU all you can do is read and research how to do something properly and the right way. And hope for the best results. This can be said for anything related like undervolting your SOC in your Android phone.

Though I hope you try my suggestion as I have done a lot of reading on various forums, NOT NBR, but others dedicated to getting the best cooling and doing it properly. And trying various pastes. I seriously think, nothing is better than ICD7 for laptops.
- If you do it right, you won't have to repaste for at least 2 years, or if paranoid, just once a year.

 

BF3 is notorious for low GPU utilization. I GUARANTEE that his temps would be higher under consecutive benchmarks.

I wouldn't worry about 85-90, since, as Meaker mentioned a few times, they've gone with an aggressive and better form of dynamic overclocking.

Now, 92+ is when I'd be making some phone calls to my reseller.

 

I didn't do anything special it just ran like that.

Basically the room I am in is generally 78 degree F. I play BF3 on ULTRA and frames avg around 60 +/- a few depending and with the clocks running at 849 (turboed) or even OC to 930 it still runs cool.

The rating from GPU-Z says like 71% quality lol so not like I got a supper great binned card.

With v-sync enabled the temps seem to be like 68-70, with off and higher FPS it is lower to mid 70's tops.

I did notice the fans by that time are at MAX RPM, vs. on my old laptop at 80 it didn't max RPM even and I could hit FN+1. This one hitting that does nothing as they are already maxed. I imagine that helps some but in reality both old and new systems use the same fans. Just HS is different.

That may be true but I know GPU usage is 99% and that on last machine temps was always mid 80's. (though as stated 580m was a warmer card)

 

Try running a benchmark, though. Not just BF3. Then report temps.

 

I get 90+ on BF3, 3dmark11 and FFXIV on my 780m.

Playing Fifa, Guild Wars, amongst others, sits around 80.

 

I don't care to install any of them to run lol.

I am not interested in unrealistic loads for benching. I care about real world usage and performance.

That said, others are reporting higher temps with the same game so that kind of shows something isn't right with something. While I know all apps use hardware different two cards on similar machines should perform similar load wise and heat wise with the same apps. Yes they will slightly vary but shouldn't be huge.

The user above who says they have 90's playing BF3 shows that somethings just off, unless they are playing in 90f room vs my 78f.

 

Which is very very likely. My gaming room ran at 94f all week last week.

Either way, I run BF3 maxed @ 72c on my HEAVILY overclocked 675mx. So it seems as if it's not a fair yard stick.

 

I lift the back up on my laptop. Play with my french doors wide open next to me. Makes no difference. Just takes longer to hit 90+ degrees, but it gets there eventually.

 

I think you have to expect that. You guys are using cards with power that if it was desktop, it would be using twice the power first off, much higher voltage, two large fans, with 4 heatpipes with vapor technology, in a well ventilated open case.
- When Asus is destroying you with improved fans and heatsink, king of treating mobile gamers like dirt, you know you have big problems. Already patch up the gaps, giant heatsinks, giant heatpipes, great fans... Why Clevo is cheaping on I think is the most important part of a high performance laptop confuses me.

 

I wouldn't expect ASUS to be doing much better in the cooling department. Do we forget the fiasco of their 580m and 5870m models?