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    High gamut matte 17.3 inch display type number

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by grunnsat, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    It seems there are now 17.3 inch high gamut displays available. I want to put one in my P170EM to use it for photo editing. Can someone supply me with type numbers please?
     
  2. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    A popular 90% NTSC Color Gamut Glossy LCD (AUO B173HW01V4) and 72% NTSC Color Gamut Matte LCD (LP173WF1-TLB3)
     
  3. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks, but I was specifically interested in a matte high gamut display. Until quite recently these displays did not exist in 17.3 inch. It seems the AUO B173HW01V7 is such a display. Unfortunately display manufacturers don't publish product specifications, at least they are not accessible for us.
     
  4. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    72% NTSC gamut matte:
    ChiMei N173HGE-L11 CMO1720
     
  5. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks again, but 72% is normal gamut. High or Wide gamut is 90 ~ 95% gamut.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Havent seen a higher then 72% matte, any link to where you saw it offered? Only have seen 95% on 15.6".
     
  7. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    You're right, until quite recently there were only high gamut displays in 15.6 inch, but now there are 17.3 inch versions also. I suppose the Clevo resellers in this forum should know.
     
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    That is great news and many people will want them i bet, any link to one?
     
  9. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    No, not yet. I hope to get some type numbers quite soon. For some odd reason display manufacturers are very secretive about their products. Perhaps we should ask Edward Snowden :D ?
     
  10. Black Dog

    Black Dog Notebook Guru

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    Do you work in adobeRGB? If your workflow is in sRGB then a calibrated 72% gamut matte screen will cover your needs. I work in sRGB because most people view online images in this colorspace and because the printers I use work in sRGB, and I'm not a high end landscape photographer that needs absolute color fidelity. Wide gamut displays are not necessarily better for photo editing unless your workflow is using a wide gamut colorspace.

    I believe Dell and HP have 100% adobe RGB matte screens (IPS, too), so they are doable, but I haven't seen the need.
     
  11. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    I want to use my best pictures to make photo books, so then AdobeRGB is indeed the best colour space. It is easy to change from AdobeRGB to sRGB, so I can do that if necessary.

    After some more searching I found that Eurocom is actually offering a 17.3 inch high gamut high contrast (650:1) display:

    90% NTSC Gamut; Chimei Innolux; N173HGE-L11; 17.3-inch Full HD 1920x1080; Matte (Non-Glare Type)
     
  12. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    I'm afraid I got my Eurocom info from an old press release from Eurocom, and the Chimei Innolux N173HGE-L11 is not a high gamut high contrast display.
     
  13. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    That screen is the one I mentioned. Although it's not high gamut >90% that you referred to, it's higher than standard screens in Clevo laptops, which are ~60% NTSC gamut. Also, the contrast ratio for this screen is ~900:1.
     
  14. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    According to some spec sheets I found, the N173HGE-L11 has a 500:1 contrast. Gamut is not mentioned in the spec sheets.

    However I found a web page of the Clevo reseller Puget Systems who is offering the AOU B173HW01 V.7 as a 90% NTSC gamut matte screen!
     
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    Hmm gonna need more confirmation than one unknown reseller. I'd be thrilled to see AUO putting out a matte version of the V.4, such a good screen.
     
  17. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    I agree, we should have a datasheet of this panel. After all, Eurocom once got it wrong with the Chimei panel in their press release.

    In December 2012 I already opened a thread on the B173HW01 V.7 , but it seems none of the resellers was able (or willing :D ) to give us more information about this panel. AU Optronics is an absolutely hopeless company when it comes to making information about their products available. You have to be an insider to get in touch with them, or to find the information you're after.
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    I've not come accross anything. You could maybe put on a filter yourself but I know it's not ideal.
     
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    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    Well, it seems that the AUO B173HW01 V.7 is the display we're after. I now asked the resellers in the 'ask the resellers" thread if they can dig up any information.
     
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    Don't suppose anyone has seen any updates on this? I've been looking around for a few weeks now but the elusive high gamut matte 17.3" white elephant evades me.
     
  21. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    Puget systems referred me to OneStopPCShop in the UK, and that company also had the V.7 on their web site. I asked them if they could confirm that the V.7 is a high gamut matte screen. They replied that their V.7 turned out to be a V.5, but that they would have the V.7 in stock again in about two weeks. That was some three weeks ago, so today I sent them another message asking them if they now have the V.7 in stock, and if they are able to confirm that this is indeed a high gamut matte 17.3 inch screen. Since I'm in Europe, a European supplier is much better for me (no import duties, VAT, high shipping costs etc.). So far I have not been able to get any technical information on the V.7 screen I'm afraid.

    Here is the web page with the V.7 screen.
     
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    Thanks for the reply! (+rep)

    Let me know if it is indeed the correct screen as I'd love to get my hands on one even if I have to pay duties and such to get it here in the states.
     
  23. Kevin

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    We need the .pdf datasheet, or readings taken with professional equipment. Those are the only ways to know for sure.
     
  24. grunnsat

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    I absolutely agree, we need the pdf of the datasheet. I have the datasheets of the B173HW01 V.0, V.4 and V.5. If the screen ia a glare or non-glare type can be found on page 5, and the gamut can be found on page 6. If you are a business relation of AUO you may be able to find these datasheets on their web site, but so far no one seems to be able to do that. It is very frustrating that such a simple question can't be answered.
     
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    Any updates guys?
     
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    V5 is the only high gamut one I am aware of.