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    How To Upgrade from i7-975 to i7/i9-980X - D900F

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Mutant_Tractor, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. Mutant_Tractor

    Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist

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    So yesterday the new clevo D900F BIOS was released v.05
    I'm sure im not the only one that thought "YES GULFTOWN IS HERE"

    I bought a Gulftown ES 980X @ 3.07GHz with 6 Cores for my desktop, as it is LGA1366 I thought id give her a whirl in the old D900F and at 32nm with the same TDP as a 975 with AS5 there would be no problem cooling,

    Heres the dis/assembly:

    First take the back panel off.
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    Then unscrew the HSF in the middle seen below. (Also used on the VGA - It seems the VGA Power outlet on the Mobo is not controlled via the Fn+1 A software method must be used)
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    I also decided to apply Arctic Silver 5 to all of the chips so next removed the VGA blower.
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    The Bare VGA Card.
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    Back VGA.
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    Front VGA.
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    CPU Blower was then removed.
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    A-Power - BS6005MB13-CPU Website Model Listed
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    CPU Heat Sink removing the TIM.
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    CPU Removing TIM.
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    Applying AS5.
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    D900F Barebones.
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    CPU Comparison.
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    i7-975.
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    i7/i9-980X.
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    Bootup.
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    BSOD :)
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    Should have know better.


    Need a 32nm Gulftown BIOS :)
    Thanks for reading guys :D
     
  2. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Forgive me, but I lol'd at the end.
     
  3. Mutant_Tractor

    Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist

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    I know exactly what you mean >.<
    Epic Fail?
     
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    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Can you return it at least?

    Also, thank you for trying. ;)
     
  5. Mutant_Tractor

    Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist

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    Its going in the Desktop :)
    Clevo will be supporting this CPU with a later release of the BIOS anyway...
     
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    The end definitely caught me off guard.
     
  7. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Kudos for trying though lol (wanted to see this work)
     
  8. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    :rolleyes: 980X in a laptop :rolleyes: Epic! If only they could be accompanied by 2x5870 GPUs.... :rolleyes: Dreams...

    Nice try anyways! I'd try other OS (even Linux), maybe it is supported by BIOS and the only problem - this is ES not OEM (OEM should be clocked 3.3GHz AFAIK).
     
  9. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    That was informative, and entertaining in the end. Good show, and nice try.

    Did you try safe mode?
     
  10. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    Is it possible that windows needs to be reinstalled?
    Anyway if the BIOS does not support the processor it is possible to fry the motherboard and the cpu as well.

    PL
     
  11. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    +1 ... on BSOD screen & text :D
     
  12. Mutant_Tractor

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    Haha thanks guys,
    Safe mode etc doesnt like it it is possible windows doesnt like it, i can give her a go in linux, that was my inital idea but i thought whats the point when i cant run things like 3DM06 etc on it to find out what it can do, was thinking of booting from Hirens boot CD with Min XP so still might give that a go,
    It stops just as it gets to the login screen, windows loads but as soon as a GUI need to be display it restarts, the BSOD you guys saw was from a safe mode boot (normal boot doesnt BSOD just restarts?)
     
  13. JamesSlade

    JamesSlade Notebook Enthusiast

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    Seems simple really, BIOS don't support the CPU so it don't work :confused:

    I have to ask - you paid how much for an ES CPU with no warranty, that runs at the wrong stock speed, you have no idea of the quality of the chip and Intel haven't even released the retail version yet?
     
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    The cpu works fine in his desktop where he uses it....he was just testing to see if it would work in the laptop.

    The BIOS DOES support the cpu or he would not have gotten far enough to boot windows and then blue screen
     
  15. JamesSlade

    JamesSlade Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah I get that he bought it for his desktop, I'm not questioning that. The current BIOS clearly doesn't support the CPU or it would work properly......pre and post Windows boot.

    Mutant_Tractor - maybe try running memtest from a bootable USB/DVD and see if it will run and if it's stable - that would let us know if the CPU is happy or not and will take Windows out the equasion.

    Does anyone know if this has been confirmed by Clevo and when it might be, assume when the CPUs are out?
     
  16. Mutant_Tractor

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    i can try running memtest,
    I paid ~$1100 for the CPU, but it is from a very reliable source of mine in Taiwan, and as of yet i have never had an Intel chip fail on me, that and this CPU overclocks like a demon 4.5GHz on water/air up tp 6.2GHz on LN2 :)
    Stock speed does not concern me when it runs that fast.

    Clevo has as of yet to confirm it but it seems logical that they will do so, i had to get a BIOS update for my EVGA E760 to run the chip so it seems i will need the same here,but it already seems the BIOS does support it but there is some other hardware that doesnt, as i said ill give memtest a whirl and let you guys know :)
     
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    Can you hook me up with your Taiwan connection? $1,100 seems like a deal to have a gulftown ES. I'd like to drop it in my classy as well and break P47k in vantage!

    BTW, I'm looking at the D900f very hard right now...very close on pulling the trigger.
     
  18. Mutant_Tractor

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    Sure can my friend, Check your PMs

    D900F = for crunching and rendering
    M980TU = Gaming :)
     
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    Thanks Mutant! I just joined the forum & didn't look closely at my user CP PM settings, sorry.

    Price is $1,250 now, still not bad. He's trust worthy?
     
  21. Mutant_Tractor

    Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist

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    No probs,
    Well its $1,250 but you make an offer for $1,150 and he'll take it,
    He's VERY trustworth, hes a famour verclocked by te name of Liang and gets sent ES CPUs from Intel directly to test them, the listed ones he doesnt overclock or even open out of the packets,
    If you thinking desktop go for it, D900F... well wait for the BIOS and ill whack mine in here (again) and hopefully break some notebook records :)
     
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    Thanks, yea, I'm definitely thinking desktop......

    I was hoping to OC the D900f, but now reading these forums, looks like that will have to wait (that's if I get it....) I can't justify the cost of the 975 though with gulftown right around the corner. I have an extra 920 C0 laying around, so I'm thinking just use that for now and buy it with out the cpu.
     
  23. Mutant_Tractor

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    You cant OC the D900F man, only change the TurboBoost settings which really got on my nads when i found out, hence my petition for an OCing BIOS :)
    920 will do nicely, the stepping doesnt matter as we cant overclock >.>
     
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    When I first saw the d900F in Max. pc mag, I thought it was too good to be true! A desktop cpu in a laptop...I thought, man, OC that puppy...why would you ever buy anything else! No sooooo. Ha. Well it will still serve its purpose for what I will use it for.

    Thanks again!
     
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    I just saw this thread today.
    If you say that the BSOD appears just before the login screen - then to me it really sounds like a Windows issue, not a BIOS issue. Maybe loading the wrong kernal or something? Is there anyway you can try installing Windows with the 980X installed? Maybe you have a spare hard drive you could drop in to experiment with?
     
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    I do indeed, i could try that and see how it goes,
    Not soon though, all tied up with ebay listings :p
     
  27. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Clear to me it's a windows issue ...
     
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    If it was a blue screen, it has to be a windows issue...that is where blue screens come from

    Do you have a server OS you can load to see if it reads the cpu ok?
     
  29. Mutant_Tractor

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    I have a few copies of server OS's, Win Srv 08 should work okay... ill try that out but at the mo its in my desktop under the WCing loop so itll be a while :p
     
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    no rush, like seeing these experiments though :)

    still want someone to try 4850 CF (from the Alienware M17) in a D901c chassis!
     
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    So what's the news? Did you try other OS-s? Any luck so far?
     
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    Hi man,
    No benches as of yet, im at uni so itll be the weekend, once the rest of my coolant and gear arrives ill do some benches for my DT, then ill install the srv OS in the D900F and see if i cant break some records (or boot) :p
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    it will work and boot

    if it didnt support it then it would never pass post
     
  35. Mutant_Tractor

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    True that... so it is a windows issue, i wonder if XP would support it, probably not although Win7 does have better multi-threading capabilities
     
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    Have you considered Windows 7 RTM for the upcoming experiment. That way you don't have to worry about a product key.
     
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    Iv been having Desktop trouble cooling wise with this CPU so itll be next week before i get to try it in my laptop :)
     
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    Doh!
    OK, waiting with baited breath :D
     
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    The pump i bought for my WCing (Iwaki RD-30) is a bit too powerful even with an EK400 res so im just modding the pc to allow for it :)
     
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    What rad/fan setup do you have with the CPU - if you are having problems with the cooling then something isn't right with the CPU or MB BIOS, you should have no temp problems on water.
     
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    Oh its not the temps its the cavitation caused by the pump, its a 30ft head pump, Im sunning a PA120.3 with 3x Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000's (115CFM each)
    I need to add more restriction into the loop, so im waiting on my X58 block (still after 2 months cause EK cant keep up) and i need 2 more 8800 GTX/Ultra Blocks from EK which i cant find anywhere as of yet...

    EDIT:
    Atm im Oc'd @ 4.00GHz with temps of 36*C-46*C Per Physical core with HT running, Trying to go for around 4.5-4.8 stable in Linx and then ill try get a WPrime32M of <4s At the mo im hitting 4.3s so not too far to go i figure another 300MHz will do that
     
  42. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    That CPU is a beast. Can you run some stock benches: WPrime, SuperPi etc? That would be a hell of a review. I'd start a new thread with those as it's relevant to D900F and its successor.
    You will be one of the first to do it!
    C'mon. And ideally you need to clock it to 3.3GHz.
     
  43. Mutant_Tractor

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    Thats true, but the thing is the CPU runs @ 3.07GHz as standard, and due to no OCing in the BIOS i cant clock it to 3.33GHz :/
    I could try e-leet but it isnt overclocking in the proper sense :(
    I can downclock it to 3.33GHz and run it in the DT with all the relevant benchmarks, then run it in the laptop to see how much of a DT replacement it really is :)

    Im doing a lot of benching for HwBot now:
    [​IMG]

    So ill be attempthing this new OCing challenge for the highest 3DM01 score with a 980-X, Break out the insulation + 4.5Kg LN2 Pot :D
     
  44. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    What is your WPrime32 score @stock?
     
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    I didnt run it @ stock but ran it @ 3.5GHz and i was getting 5.1s :)
     
  46. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    So @3.3GHz would be around 5.5s. Still impressive. Any 3dmark06?
     
  47. Mutant_Tractor

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    3DM06 W/1x 8800Ultra = 15/16K cant quite remember... not much change there
     
  48. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    I meant just the CPU score. It should be 6.5k+ as 975 can hit 6k
     
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    Ahhh i get you now 6800 :)
     
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    That's nice! Far from the IBM Power7 64-cores but heck, this is our top runner for the rest of the 2010 at least.
     
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