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    How do you determine start up time?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by dimmu, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. dimmu

    dimmu Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    When I first got the sager, it took 40 seconds to start up completely from the second I pushed the power button. Now that I added all of my programs and stuff to it, it takes about 70. A huge difference.

    Do you determine start up time from the moment the power button is pushed? How long should start up time be with a computer like mine?
     
  2. tangent

    tangent Notebook Evangelist

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    from the moment the button is pressed to the time the hard drive quiets down. that does seem a little slow, try spybot s and d
     
  3. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Or go into Run.. and type msconfig. Make sure 'Process System.INI File' and 'Process Win.INI File' are unselected. You can edit which programs to launch in the Services and Startup tabs. I went from loading 86 programs on my laptop to 30. Makes a big difference.
     
  4. dimmu

    dimmu Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah so it's still starting up at 58 seconds. What's a good start up time anyway?
    I re-ran my benchmarks and super pi to see if those scored where low, and I got about the same things.

    4660 in 3dmark06 and 8389 in 05.

    for 2m in super pi it took 1 min 44 seconds.

    Everything else seems in working condition. I don't get it.
     
  5. Elminst

    Elminst Some Network Guy

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    A good start up time is however long it takes for your machine to load the stuff it needs to load. :)

    As you stated, your 3dmark and super pi scores have barely changed. Meaning that your performance is not suffering from the extra stuff you loaded.
    In other words; Why worry about it?
     
  6. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    To make Windows XP faster (especially boot time):

    You need to change the Prefetch option in the Registry.

    Click Start then run and type regedit

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    Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM

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    Current control set > Control > Session Manager

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    Memory Management > Prefetch Parameters.

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    Right click and select " modify".

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    Then change the value in EnablePrefetcher from 3 to 5.

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    Reboot and watch the faster speed.

    Game On People,
    -Gophn

    P.S. Special thanks to Forcefire
     
  7. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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  8. dimmu

    dimmu Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Chaz, I actually did the tune up guide. THanks though. Only thing I didn't do was the bootvis. I'll do that now.

    Gophn, after that fix, the restart was actually slower.. Now it's taking well over a minute.
     
  9. dimmu

    dimmu Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    now its taking like 60 seconds again. The hold up isn't starting my programs, it's just starting windows. It takes a while to see my desktop, then it's like 5 seconds or less to load after that.
     
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    p_boucher Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Are you logging onto a network?

    At work my laptop is way longer to load than at home...
     
  11. dimmu

    dimmu Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    There isn't a network here at my job. The computer looks for it though. That's not the problem though. It's just starting windows, before the computer even looks for a network. It's still taking about 60 seconds to load. I don't get it. With the specs on my system, it should be faster...no?
     
  12. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    dimmu,

    the fix that i've shown makes windows XP prefetch your programs (startup) during boot time. If you've used Mac OS X, it's similar to that, but not as efficient.

    Mac OS X has always been thought to startup slower than Windows... UNTRUE. Mac OS X loads up all programs into prefetch during startup so that when your in the desktop, nothing is slow and all programs are ready to run without lag. On the other hand, Windows initially loads up just its essential OS components onto the desktop, then it loads up the programs/services one by one after that (depending on priority & order).

    The Prefetch Parameters can be changed back if you feel that the speed/efficiency is not noticeable or making it slower. However, the main difference between Windows XP and the upcoming Windows Vista in the registry is strangely in this location. There is an additional EnableSuperfetch entry with the value set to 1. You can actually add it to your Windows XP registry (requires Service Pack 2). It is still up in the air if it really is functioning or helping at all, inconclusive... .but not harmful.

    Chaz has linked a nice guide for tweaking more speed out of your system, check that out too.

    -Gophn
     
  13. dimmu

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    Dude, you know everything. >_>
     
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    dimmu Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    OK, I'm very upset. The system seems to work perfectly fine, but this start up is ridiculous. I've tried everything I've read so far and it's still taking like 70 seconds to load. Again, it lags most when windows is loading. Especially at the blue welcome screen. It stays for liek 7-10 seconds, then you hear the welcome song, and the blue welcome screen stay for longer even after that. I've only got 6-7 programs running at start up. (no matter how many times I tell msmsgs and msn messenger to not start up, it automatically does).

    ANother thing this computer does is, when windows initially loads in the black screen where you can see the loading bar under "windows xp", you can see the image of windows adn the loading bar appearing, then at like 50% of it's opacity, it pauses for like 3 seconds, then comes to full opacity and loads.

    I don't understand why this computer is doing this. Maybe I was given a 5400 rpm hard drive in stead of 7200. I have no idea but I wish I knew how to fix this or what to do next..
     
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    dimmu,

    are u using an antivirus, antispyware, and/or firewall??? those can lag especially the antivirus and spware scanners. disable them and see if it goes faster.

    since we have the same notebook, i'll tell you what i do. Mine starts up with everything loaded about the same time as yours, thats because i do have an antivirus, and so on.

    You should try to Hibernate, rather than shutting down. It saves all settings and precaches all of your programs that you were using. It still fully turns off your notebook, but starting up would resume what you were doing rather than reloading all the startup stuff again. Loadup time is like 10 secs. LOL.
    1) go to Start > Turn Off Computer
    2) you can press H to hibernate
    -OR- you can hold shift to click on the hidden Hibernate button

    Note: I do this on my notebook, and its very efficient, I still have to do the occasional normal shutdown/restart when needed (for Windows updates, etc)

    Hope this helps,

    -Gophn