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    How to run a NP9170(w/ 7970m) with a 3d plasma tv

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by o0phantom0o, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. o0phantom0o

    o0phantom0o Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys
    I'm about to get a NP9170 with the 7970M. I have a 52" 3d plasma(samsung) in my living room. I was hoping to connect the 2 and hopefully get some games running in 3d(the glasses). Anyone has any experience with this?
     
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    I advise you to check out iz3d (even though it has been discontinued) and tridef (still supported, but it's a paid app). I managed to get 3D working with my Qumi, using iz3d. But it is a huge hassle and there are some issues in windows 8. Good Luck!
     
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    I dont plan on using win8 atm. How good is it with win7?
     
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    Tridef is the one supported by AMD so is your best bet. However it wont be very good if your TV is not true 120hz 1080p (it's very likely not).
     
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    You can still go for 48hz 3D as it is supported by the Tridef driver (and also the good ole iz3d). Still, if you want to go down the 3D road with AMD, be prepared for a world of painful tweaks...
     
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    You never know! It could be one of those "600Hz" plasmas. :p
     
    Prostar Computer, Apr 15, 2013
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    600Hz subfield is not equivalent to the refresh rate.. so in the states are also idiots as sales etc. which are using the subfield Hz as refresh rate? Thought only our german sales people in electronic stores are idiots ;)

    Ohhh and i love my panasonic 50vt30 ;)
     
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    Yes, it happens all over unfortunately, there are going to be VERY few titles running at an effective 24fps that are going to be playable.
     
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    I was actually thinking more about movies. The 3D in cinemas is usually 48Hz. For gaming, it is bordering on the line of chopiness!

    Edit: My bad. Just noticed he mentined games. That being said 120hz 3D would be the way to go.
     
    Jaycob, Apr 16, 2013
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    Most games are going to want 120hz yes since that gives 60FPS overall.
     
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    Yea, it's 720p. I'm not sure about the refresh rate, though its probably safe to assume the lower of the two xD. But 3D movies play smoothly.

    I'll give tridef and that other software a go when my laptop comes around.
     
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    Well that's the issue, you have to pay for tridef and with a standard refresh rate monitor it will not give a very good gaming experience.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 18, 2013
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    Tridef does give out a one month trial :) . And I do agree, that for gaming, if it's not 120Hz, you'll probably have a subpar experience...
     
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    True, oh and on the comment of movies looking smooth, they use lots of tricks you can't use in real time to get it that way ;) Even then it's not if you look at certain kinds of panning shots.
     
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    One of such advantages is motion blur. On movies, it really does help smootness stay up. Higher frame rate (interpolated) in movies is often called "The soap opera effect" : What is the 'Soap Opera Effect'? | TV and Home Theater - CNET Reviews and is usually frown upon. The idea behind motion blur in games is also making a game seem smoother even at a bit lower FPSs. Our brains perceive something as moving fast if its blurry :3 . Hence, motion-blur :D
     
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    I can understand that. However, some games on the xbox360 claim to have a 3d functionality as well. I have not tried them out because I dont want to get a game on the 360 that I already own on the pc just to try out a feature.

    If someone has played those games in 3d, can they provide some info regarding the 3d performance there? was is subpar or alright?

    If it was alright then there is hope the pc can handle is as well.

    Edit: said games include batman arkham series, Gears of War 3(I think) and a couple more that im not remembering right now.
     
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    Ok, I'm not sure if this is any help, but here is the spec sheet for the TV in question:

    PS51D490A1 - TECH SPECS | SAMSUNG

    it has a 600hz submotion engine but I doubt thats relevant.
     
    o0phantom0o, Apr 19, 2013
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    A 720p 52" tv? I couldn't bear to watch that. Anything bigger than about 40" I need to be 1080p.or it just looks so STRETCHED.
     
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    Well it has never looked great to me, makes it hard to aim in FPS games and it lowers your FPS due to the processing :s
     
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    Agreed. It's the poor man's "120hz".
     
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    I concur. The best "motion blur" is when the game is running in such a high frame rate, that a quick turn makes your eyes feel like it has moved smoothly. Human eye image persistance is the best "motion blur" you can get xD . Persistence of vision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . So yeah, if I have to chose between 25 fps motion blur-enabled game or a 30 fps no motion blur game, I'll go for the second one ;)
     
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