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    How's The D900F For Gaming?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by sameet, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. sameet

    sameet Notebook Guru

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    Someone put up some numbers. I am sure many of you have the new i7 laptop by now.

    How does it play Crysis: Warhead? How about Fary Cry 2 and Left 4 Dead? What about Call of Duty 4 and 5?

    Can you keep playing for hours and hours without the laptop overheating and downclocking, resulting in lag? How is the cooling system?

    These are all questions I need to know before making a purchase decision.

    Thanks
     
  2. acoz

    acoz Notebook Enthusiast

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    d900f has high temp., cant overclock, freakin heavy, 1 video card.
     
  3. sameet

    sameet Notebook Guru

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    More specific please, how does this affect gaming performance. Does it overheat and then slow down and lag?
     
  4. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    High temp = lots of noise
    No overclock for proc -- self explanatory
    1 video mobile video card only < 2 video cards
    heavy over 5kg, not so mobile

    I am not sure what are you trying to find out, they just started to ship out. Not many people got their hands on one.


    PL
     
  5. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    It will be good enough for gaming.
     
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    D900F is the updated version of the 9262 with i7 processor.
    read about it at Engadget
     
  8. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    The system will play al games at max.

    There are not temp issues with the system... it has the amazing thermal design of the previous D901C.... which no other notebook can touch for cooling.
     
  9. GamingACU

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    Do we have any benchmark numbers for this thing yet? I think that's more what the OP is looking for as well.
     
  10. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    13k on 3DMark06 on stock settings.
     
  11. Ginroth

    Ginroth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is that with the 920?
     
  12. GamingACU

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    Kinda sad seeing as a 5797 got a higher score...
     
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    It never ends---
     
  14. Pentium2028

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    [​IMG]

    This is my 3Dmark06 mark on default setting with Windows 7 7201.
     
  15. electrosoft

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    Pentium 2028:

    How is the noise level under load?

    How did the fans sound running 3Dmark06?

    Load up Prime 95 here: http://majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

    Set it to 4+ cores, max heat generation and tell us how it sounds under heavy CPU use (15 minutes minimum) along with some temps.
     
  16. HeavenCry

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    More benchies HERE.
    Its true you cant overclock the cpu (but heck, just get a 950 or 975 and there is no need to do it - its a monster cpu - the mobile ones suck against any desktop one).
    But it certainly does not have heat problems: 2 fans for the cpu and 2 fans for the single gtx 280m = 4 fans! Temps are not a problem.
    And if you know how to do it with a proper gpu oc i think it can come somewhere close to a stock sli since this gpu ocs nicely and 2 fans cooling it should do a fine job when its overclocked - should be the best lappy for this.
    Its true it doesnt have sli (like the 9262 which is even better in my oppinion, but sadly not sold anymore) but its close to it and definetely the answer if you also want alot of raw cpu power and 3 ram slots instead of two.

    Also, stop comparing 3dmark06 scores.. compare gaming benchies.. crysis is in the link.
     
  17. electrosoft

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    My concern is moreso the noise level under max load and its temps under a max heat situation to see how it stands up for 15+ minutes.

    You know, really but it against the wall. :)

    If it sounds anything like the Whitebook under load, that's a deal breaker. The Whitebook was very loud under load, IMHO.
     
  18. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Under Prime95 Small FFT test (8 threads) a 975 hits 80-85C which considering it's way above what any real world app will stress the CPU is pretty good imo. After looping 3DMark06 or Vantage the GPU is running at about 48C, infact there isn't really much difference between idle and load though obviously temps will be higher when running a game at 1920 x 1200 with AA and AF up full.

    I spent quite a while with the Whitebook and it's louder than a D900F with 975 - mainly because of the GPU fans.

    Straying away from GPU benchies for a minute the Cinebench 10 results look like this:

    Multiple CPU Render Test 19325
    OpenGL Standard Test 6202
     
  19. yudiat2505

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    so you can't overclock even with core i7 975 ?
     
  20. Johnksss

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    all 5 temp's or just the 4?
    example:
    [​IMG]
     
  21. Kevin

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    I don't understand why we down the D900F, as if the i7 + 280M isn't enough to play anything out there. Plus the MXM 3.0 slot at least leaves the door open for a major GPU upgrade in the future.

    It's beyond a competent gaming machine.

    But I'm sure the 5797 had to overclock to get there.
     
  22. Johnksss

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    think they better go back and take another look...
    i7/280m was clocked at 14.8 in 3dmark
     
  23. HeavenCry

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    For the last time: You CANT overclock ANY cpu via bios, not even extreme, in this laptop, since multiplier control is locked! This info is from MySn where i ordered mine.

    The only advantage of the i7-965/i7-975 is the 6,4gt/sec over the i7-950 i got with 4,8gt/sec and a little increase in speed (0,17ghz or 0,30ghz). But in real life that doesnt make much difference. So id say go for the i7-950 since its alot cheaper (good price to performance ratio in my oppinion). Or even the 720 would do..

    Why the hell would you want to overclock it anyway? These are monster DeSkToP cpus that are far superior to any mobile one.
     
  24. Johnksss

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    you haven't done allot of serious over clocking...have you?
     
  25. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    I'm not getting the system on the sole fact that it can't overclock. I have high hopes for the M980NU since its on an nVidia platform.
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    thanks Kevin :cool:
     
  27. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    Not on a notebook.. couldnt drive my qx9300 over 3,2ghz becouse of voltage.

    And tell me this: How many games are so cpu dependant that an i7-950 cpu wont be enough at stock?

    Ill definetely go for ocing (and overvolting) the 280m as much as i can but i really dont see a point in trying too hard with the cpu since i still dont see it as a bottleneck.
     
  28. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    And who says the m980nu will have that option? I didnt ask mysn and i dont intend to.. go ahead and write them - they are pretty knowledgable when it comes to the systems they sell (write in german though).
     
  29. The_Moo™

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    because pictures are so much easier then googleing :rolleyes:
     
  30. The_Moo™

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    xoticpc confirmed the m98nu willl have OC'ing abilitys

    also the M17x has FSB, RAM and unlock multipliers for the CPU's

    lock multipliers on non extreme...

    But you can OC...we have a p8600 @ 3.0 ghz easy
     
  31. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    Show me a qx9300 over 3,2ghz :)

    Thats nice but still.. not even a heavily overclocked mobile cpu could crunch numbers like a desktop one.

    To put things into perspective:
    Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time
    AVADirect D900F (Core i7 975 @ 3.33GHz) 7.206 seconds
    ASUS W90Vp-X1 (Core 2 Duo T9600 @ 3.29GHz) 23.494 seconds
    ASUS N90SV-A2 (Core 2 Duo T9550 @ 2.66GHz) 28.485 seconds
    Sony VAIO FW (Core 2 Duo T9400 @ 2.53GHz) 30.373 seconds
    Dell Studio 17 (Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50GHz) 31.574 seconds
    Dell Studio XPS 16 (Core 2 Duo P8600 @ 2.40GHz) 31.827 seconds
    ASUS F50SV-A2 (Core 2 Duo P8600 @ 2.40GHz) 31.857 seconds
    Gateway P-7805u FX (Core 2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26GHz) 34.287 seconds
    HP Pavilion dv6z (AMD Athlon X2 QL-64 @ 2.10GHz) 38.519 seconds
     
  32. anothergeek

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    Think I got 12,750~ on 3dmark06 with MXM 3.0 stock clocks and my QX9300 @2.93. My GPU overclock adds about another 1000 points. So yes, that i7 still makes a difference, and a 975 machine can break 15k.

    Vantage GPU score won't be any different though.
     
  33. HeavenCry

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    Ill wait off now with any further comments.. ill show off more when i get it and crank everything i can up the way it should be :)
     
  34. Johnksss

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    [uote=HellCry;4991229]Not on a notebook.. couldnt drive my qx9300 over 3,2ghz becouse of voltage. <----understandable...

    And tell me this: How many games are so cpu dependant that an i7-950 cpu wont be enough at stock? <---the d900f is not a gaming rig (meaning - build to do hard core gaming)but a workstation rig, so anything cpu related matters and now with gpu transcoding, the 280m pulls it''s weight there as well

    Ill definetely go for ocing (and overvolting) the 280m as much as i can but i really dont see a point in trying too hard with the cpu since i still dont see it as a bottleneck.[/quote] <---no one said it was the bottle neck...it's more of a "if i can over clock a desktop cpu in a desktop...then why not a laptop sort of thing." and when you spend this kind of money...you would think over clocking was included (some form of it on gpu/cpu)...that's why
     
  35. Kevin

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    Has anyone checked the MXM 3.0's voltage yet?
     
  36. The_Moo™

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    heh i wish we had a serious user with the m17x :(
     
  37. KY_BULLET

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    I'm barely hitting 11k on 06...w/186.03 driver...help me out here...what is the best program to overclock the GPU?...cpu is no problem im scoring around 38,xxx on 3d mark vantage
     
  38. GamingACU

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    nvidia system tools.
     
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    Ntune :)

    that should work good
     
  40. KY_BULLET

    KY_BULLET Notebook Evangelist

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    alright thanks...i will post some results and a review hopefully tomorrow
     
  41. HeavenCry

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    Cant wait! But take your time to do all the benchies.. from 3dmarks to crysis, warhead, dmc4, and stress tests..
    And dont forget the temps screenies with that..
     
  42. HeavenCry

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    Just wanted to post this a well:
    8800gtx sli vs single gtx 280m

    This is how it should look once the real gtx 2x0 based mobile high-end cards come out in Q4 in the mobile department (the current gtx 280m sli vs the new ??? single). Thats what im looking forward to upgrading once it hits the market to even out the playing field with the current sli models (even though i didnt buy this rig with gaming in the first place i still like the idea that it can do it well..).
     
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    I had a lock up last night and now intel matrix storage is doing a volume initalization and has been for 8 hours...Any body have any thoughts on this?
    Should it take this long? Any thing i can do? I think i have some errors on the hdd now that i had to manualy shut it down...damn it lol
     
  44. Zedmec

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    i know it takes about that long for two 250gb 7200rpm seagate 3.5" drives in my workstation at work whenever windows has a hickup and it has to redo the entire mirror copy (raid 1) raid 5 would be similar as it has to write all parity info bit by bit....day by day these things we pray

    wouldn't hurt to have windows do the look for bad sectors drive check.
     
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    Does the 9280 support 3.5" or 2.5" hard drives?
     
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    lmao lmao lmao\

    2.5 inch x 3
     
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    i would never feel upset that a cow laughed at me.
     
  48. Kevin

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    Let's assume that the oft speculated upon 40nm, 192 shader GT200 chip is released for this chassis. That would make this the best notebook on the market for those who don't want to bother with dual GPU solutions. I'd take one in a second.

    i7 + GT200 will be an absolute beast.
     
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    TRUE Dat

    i would want them in SLI though :p


    Each to their own though
     
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    ROTFLMAO!

    10chars.
     
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