I bought a quad, but it wont work in my m570tu :(

Well. Now that I've been banging my head in a wall for the last few hours to release some anger, I'm ready to solve this. As the topic says, I bought a q9200 for my m570tu, and it won't work. Turns out I have the old version of the mother board, which does not support quads (please someone tell me I'm wrong).

I felt that I had been thorough on this, and I found from several sources that this machine would support a quad:

- First of all, the clevo web page itself stated that the m570tu supports quads up to qx9300. That was last week, but now they have removed all info in this, and my link is dead: http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=83

- The "Clevo Guide v2.0 ...". Sticky thread on this forum. "CPU: supports Montevina - Core 2 Duo/Extreme/Quad core (45nm)"

- The "**M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**": "The Clevo M570TU is built upon the Intel PM45 Express Chipset, allowing FSB speeds up to 1066MHz, DDR3, up to the 3GHz X9100 Duo or the 2.5GHz QX9300 Quad Extreme processors"

- The "Clevo BIOS thread": Says something about added support for quads.

- And I even asked my vendor if they had any quads available, and they responded they only had the q9000, which was to slow for me. I did not specifically ask them to check if my laptop could handle it, since I at this time was convinced it would, but still.

Now. After my new quad wouldn't work, I started searching about what might be wrong, and only then I found out I don't have the -1 version of mb.

Is there anything I can do to get this cpu to work in my system?

 

The M570ETU has quad support, the M570TU has no quad support. Quad enabled motherboards started shipping in November 2008. Anything bought before that does not have quad support. Sorry.
You can either pay 200 USD and buy a new motherboard with quad support. I am sure pkhetan can help you with that. Or sell your Q9200 on ebay and buy a X9100 which is the best CPU you can use.

 

The eBay sellers also deal in ES Core 2 Duos, so your best move may be to arrange an exchange, for something at the T9800 level or above.

 

The T9900 is not too far off when it comes to price. But I would much rather have the Q9200. I'm going to ask my vendor what to do next. Find out if its possible to arrange something. Are there any other advantages if I buy the new mb? If my vendor cant do anything I will contact pkhetan.

 

My advice would be to get the X9100. It's a very good CPU and it's far cheaper than getting the whole motherboard replaced. You can push it to 3.5 GHz or even more.

I once had a Q9200 and was I not very happy with it. It was too hot for my taste and a bit unstable. The QX9300 OEM runs much better.

Benefits of a new motherboard... I don't really know. But I am sure that any new revision fixed some minor bugs that most of us are not even aware of.

 

Hello F22,

welcome to the club of pure M570TU without the "E" owners ;-).
I recently bought the X9100 and it works great even with the 3.45 GHz overclocking through Bios.
Right now I would say it was the best choice for me, though I thought of a quad before, too.
I use the M570TU to play some games with a friend over LAN, in a cafe. This is lot of fun. But most of the games are not THAT new; C&C 3, UT 3, FIFA 10, some of the older NFS series. the newest game ist Dirt 2. And I recognized that the FPS is really raised by the X9100. Sometimes I think up to 10 FPS. That made me play even Dirt 2 with a overclocked 9800m GTX with the highest settings and 2xAA with 28 FPS average. Before the x9100 it was impossible in that settings - I owned a T9400. The Benchmarks are pretty well, too, look in my signature...
But I know that newer games will use the quad more often and it is only matter of time till the x9100 is really "outdated". But I plan to have a lot of fun til it´s time ;-).
Recently I saw mysn.de post in a german forum about the mobo that will take quadcore- they said that all of the M570TU´s with at least the serial number NKM57xTU8 L have the support, before don´t. Since mine is NKM571TU8 I... it can be right and you don´t have to look at the ram slot anymore ;-).

 

My serial number is NKM570TU8F... Guess I bought mine pretty early.

The difference in price between the q9200 and the x9100 is 130 usd. Only 70 usd more to get the new mb if Blacky is right. I dont really have time to do overclocking, and I think the quad core will be the best choice for the future? I'm going to keep this laptop for a while.

 

Actually the price I got quoted for the M570ETU MB was about 300 USD. But I assume that pkhetan can get it cheaper (around 200-250 USD).

Trust me, the Q9200 is great CPU if you can cool it properly, but in my tests it took it 4 minutes to reach throttling temps or 5-6 min. without OC.

 

Of course, if you got the money and time and know-how to replace the mobo, then maybe you should go for it. Nevertheless, the system is not only "outdated" because of the CPU but of the GPU- we will never be able to get anyhing better then the GTX 280m, because the MXM 2.1 type is no longer used on new video cards.
I think it depends a little bit on what you are doing with your machine, if you need a quad or not.
Right now I am thinking of buying me a new W880CU, but have to say it just wouldn´t be necessary, there would be a lot other things I could do with the money, and I own the M570TU since 1 year and a couple of months and a notebook like that should be used at least 2-3 years, otherwise it´s just crazy to pay so much money for a new thing that will be outdated in a year or so - but this is it how it works right now ;-).
OC with the X9100 is really nothing you need time to do; you go into BIOS and set the multiplier, that´s all. I played around with "Throttlestop" and got it working up to 3,7 GHz but the improvement was really not that great that I would risk thermal damage or something, so I stay with the 3,45 GHz.
The Q9200 was never OEM, if I am right - so I don´t know how stable it runs- maybe it doesn´t, as Blacky pointed out he wasn´t satisfied with it.

 

Yeah i had a Q9200 in my M660TU replaced it with an M860ETU and the heat was still too high, im surprised they didn't just make a BIOS update. My Q9200 worked fine in my M860TU after the BIOS update.

 

i dont know how blacky achieved those temps. i think he got a bad sample.

my cpu can be overclocked to 3.4ghz and the temps never reach the throtling during gaming and benching.

also i can undervolt that cpu to the minimun voltage @ 2.4ghz and the temps never get to 65C also is ultra stable, i feel very happy with my sager finally

 

sorry. double post

 

I used prime95 to stress test the CPU.
Under normal gaming conditions I never got the CPU to throttling temp (which is 92-93C btw, it's linked to the ACPI temp). But that's because the CPU is not 100% utilised and if games don't use it to 100% then why not buy a X9100 which will deliver just as well.