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    I finally made a deicsion.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Camper, May 24, 2008.

  1. Camper

    Camper Newbie

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    NP5793

    - Chassis Color: Silver Trim
    - Display: 17" Wide Viewing Angles WSXGA+ LCD with Super Glossy Surface (1680 x 1050)
    - Processor: 45nm Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9300 / 6MB L2 Cache, 2.50GHz, 800MHz FSB[+$130.00]
    - Video & Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTX Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory[+$395.00]
    - Operating System: Genuine MS Windows® VISTA Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
    - Memory: Special Offer - Free memory upgrade from 2GB to 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 X 2048MB
    - Primary Hard Disk Drive: 200GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive[+$100.00]
    - Optical Drive: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
    - Wireless Network Card: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
    - Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth Module
    - Intel Robson Technology: Intel 1GB TurboMemory Module[+$35.00]
    - Primary Battery: Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
    - MCE Remote Control: Compact Media Center Remote Control & IR Receiver, fits in Express Card slot[+$45.00]
    - Integrated Security Device: Fingerprint Reader
    - Microsoft Office: Microsoft Office Ready with Free 60-Day Trial
    - Warranty: Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty with Three-Day Shipping Both Ways Paid
    - Carrying Bag: Standard Carrying Bag


    OK so after many days of shopping and fights with my wife (I lost), we finally settled on a laptop. Finalized my order today on the aforementioned laptop. Did I do well or did i just spend 2500 on a machine that will ultimately dissapoint me?

    kneels and prays
     
  2. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    I think it is a bad timing to get np5793, you should wait for half month and get the 5794 for similar price.
     
  3. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Have you checked the pricing @ pcmicroworks.com?
     
  4. lastrebelstanding

    lastrebelstanding Notebook Evangelist

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    Where did you order it from?
     
  5. Camper

    Camper Newbie

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    **SALE** Intel® Core™2 Duo T9500 (2.6GHz/45nm/800MHz/6MB L2 Cache)

    4096MB Ultra Speed DDR2 800MHz Extreme Performance Memory + Heat-Spreaders

    200GB @ 7,200 SATA300 Storage 16MB (1x 200GB 7200RPM)

    No External Storage

    Standard 8X High Speed DVD-RW / CD-RW DL Burner

    nVIDIA Geforce 8800M GTX 512MB DDR3 EXTREME GPU

    17" HD WUXGA+ 1920x1200 Ultra Resolution GlassVision Wide Screen Cinema Display

    8 Channel Advanced SRS WOW Surround Sound System

    High Speed 10/100/1000 Mbps Gigabit Networking Adapter

    Internal High Speed V90k Dial Up Modem

    **SALE** Built In 802.11AGN 300mbps Ultra Speed Wireless Adapter

    Integrated Advanced Bluetooth v2.0 Wireless Adapter

    No EVDO (Evolution Data Only) High Speed Internet Connection

    No GPS Location Device

    No TV Tuner

    No Floppy Drive

    No Extra Mouse

    Built In Biometric FingerPrint Scanner

    No Controller

    Microsoft® Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64 Bit **NEW**

    No Notebook Security

    No Laptop Cooler

    No Extra AC Adapter

    No Extra Battery

    No Car Power Adapter

    Notebook Carrying Bag Designed Exclusively For Your Unit

    No Burning or DVD Software

    No Virus or Spyware Protection

    Dead Pixel Protection Not Included

    Standard Limited 1 Year Warranty Coverage

    No Office Productivity Package


    Crap. I ordered from sagers website. And I just configured a laptop thats a little bit faster (see above) for less money from pcmicroworks.com. However ive never heard of them before this thread. sigh.....guess im cancelling my order and switching over. Im telling my wife its your fault. Seriously I can use all the help I can get in this laptop world. Im a desktop geek from the 8086 days. Any other ideas? Sager wont process my order for another 2 days b/c of the weekend holiday.
     
  6. Camper

    Camper Newbie

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    Sorry for the quintiple spacing. Go Red Wings!
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Sager might be willing to pricematch if you contact them.

    I know their resellers (like XoticPC) will do it.
     
  8. smood

    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    A suggestion for the future. Ask people on the forums before buying not your wife. Talk to your wife at the end. Like when it arrives.

    How do you know it will be out in half a month? I would say much longer. I mean its still in testing phase with clevo. Moreover 9800M GTX isn't coming out until late July early August so unless your going to buy it with the 8700 and upgrade to the 9800 when it comes out its not really worth it. Its only really worth buying if you wait until August or so. Who knows even by August the 5794 might not be out.
     
  9. Camper

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    Its not bought. Sagernotebooks wont process the orders on weekends so its sitting in a pending status. Ive sent two emails and left a callback message to cancell the order. And I have posted and asked on a few forums. I just bumped into this one today that mentioned pcimicroworks. Xoticpc's price difference was negligible.
     
  10. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Negliblie, but they have free 3 yr labor warranty
     
  11. Camper

    Camper Newbie

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    Side note: I was doing good until this evening by not buying a dell, alienware or some other major brand. And theres no way im ever going back to ibuypower or cyberpowerpc for anything.
     
  12. clintre

    clintre Notebook Evangelist

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    It is not that Dell, Alienware, and other major brands do not make decent or even great systems. They do have quality issues from time to time as do some of the smaller companies. The problem for me comes down to support when I do have a problem and that is where I find that the smaller companies and even more so the resellers have better support (there are exceptions).

    Most of the major players have off shored their support and are more concerned with corporate customers than home / smb.

    You find resellers who add value add support like Xotic and from what I am seeing lately PC Microworks and that only adds to the value of your system. Not to mention the price points for high end laptops.

    As to the waiting for the 5794, I thought about that as well. Unfortunatly I do not have the luxury of waiting, not to mention there is no guaranty that it will be released even by the end of June. I also do not like buying 0 rev systems, even with Clevo's quality there will likely be bugs. I used to work as a field service engineer and have very rarely seen 0 rev systems not have some sort of problems. There is just no way that even the best QA can catch every potential issue until released in mass.
     
  13. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    clintre, I think there was an exception - IBM, back to the day when they still sell PCs. I've never seen any bugs on their systems, and their CS were superior.
     
  14. clintre

    clintre Notebook Evangelist

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    That is true their machines and CS were really top notch back then. That is also before you really had a lot of the off shoring of support. That is not something you really see anymore as the PC has become a commodity. The companies do not spend near the QA that was spent back then and part of the reason is the pressure to get the "next best thing" to the market is to big in a commodity type market.
     
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    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    Clintre makes a great point. Not only is waiting a half month likely to net you nothing considering the 5794 is unlikely to come that soon but it will be a rev 0 system as clintre mentioned and likely to have bugs. I say the only way its a good purchase is if you are going to wait another 4 months or so. Moreover by then we'll get 9800M benches to see what it can do.
     
  16. clintre

    clintre Notebook Evangelist

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    Although we do need some people to buy and get the bugs worked out so that I can feel comfortable buying myself one. ;)
     
  17. smood

    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    Lol!!!!!!!
     
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    Its not really the CS that im worried about. I feel more than comfortable handling most software and hardware issues myself provided its not some obscure problem. Its the fact that I can build the same laptop at dell or alienware and have to pay $500 more. Its always about money when you have to share it with your spouse. It was hard enough to justify buying a gaming rig. But now I have to consider upgradeability (1 word). Will the motherboard I buy be SLI enabled? Can I add the additional card later or will the board support any future cards? Or is it buy as is and hope that the games dont jump beyond my system specs within the next 1-2 years. A laptop is a very frustrating purchase.
     
  19. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    579x doesn't support SLI. 8800m gtx will last you at least 3 years, after that you will need to use med settings I believe. you can upgrade your GPU later if they are same format/requirement.
    and welcome to the notebook world.
     
  20. smood

    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    Probably a bit longer than 3 years. I don't think we'll see the truly nextgeneration of graphics tech for 4-5 years where we'll have new tech from Crytek and maybe epic. During this period there will just be refining of what we have now. Although the Crysis graphics patches that will come in a couple years time we'll probably kill the 8800M GTX.
     
  21. Camper

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    I have to sleep on this. This 24/hr on call crap is killing me. Clear head, start fresh tomorrow. And by tomorrow of course I mean today. I wonder if my old SSi games will run on the 8800 gtx? Does it come with a 5 1/4 drive? I hope so.....sleeps
     
  22. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    ummmm no ... lol.. you cant find any new notebook with a 5.25" drive i hope you were joking, i didnt read the last page but yeah hope you are joking
     
  23. Camper

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    Im refreshed. Yes of course i am joking. Although Curse of The Azure Bonds was the greatest.
     
  24. Camper

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    Ok so now my question is. A standalone 8800gtx or the duel sli enabled 8800gtx platform?