I hope when d901c 8800SLI released it does better than this

Do you think Clevos 8800SLI will do better than this:
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3242&p=7

they are testing the sli 8800 for the m1730 and the results are very impressive.

Crysis in 1900x1200 high settings avg 29fps.

and medium settings they get like 55fps

they got some good drivers eh?

I hope when Clevo gets their bungles sorted out and releases the next driver and the other 8800, it performs better than dells.

but if it does. it will be awesome.

 

I have a 5793 with 8800GTX and play Crysis on 1900x1200 all high settings and 2x AA....and get awesome framerates...

 

like?

30fps?

too me, anything below 30 is not very pleasant.

awesome is subjective.

are you saying your single 8800 gets the same fps as the dell 8800sli?

if so that would be great.

 

Does the patched retail game run better than the demo? I can't run the demo smooth at those settings, even with the 174.12 drivers.

 

At 1920x1200 , any single 88MGTX at high settings would not get far from 20 fps.

 

Neither can I.

I get about 30 fps at 1920x1200 with all settings on high except shadows and shaders set at medium. Either he is wildly overclocked, the demo is much more demanding, or the 5793 is much, much faster than the 9262.

 

I could get that at 1680x1050 with my 7900 with shadows and shaders at medium.

I extensively overclocked my card. as lots of you may know. but I truthfully got those frames as I have said repetadly.

the m1730 seems to be way over our game so to speak when it comes to dells DRIVERS being way way better than ours. obviously notwithstanding they allready have released SLI and its working better than they even hoped.

I just hope that clevo gets their act together.

the reason I got this notebook is to get atleast 100% better than my last card oc'd as it was.

so maybe after I oc my 8800 as much as I did my 7900 I might get some solace.

 

If you OC your 88M GTX as much as you did with the 79GTX, you`d better stay away from Vista

 

of corse its better,

its mobile cpu vs desktop quad

 

cpu's only do so much in gaming.

that's that.

3dmark score notwithstanding. I hate 3dmark. it doesn't mean anything.

 

Oh but sometime it actually does . From my 5350 score in Vista, to 5573 in XP, the difference is freaking noticeable Especially in games like crysis, UT3, or older games, like Heroes V.(I`m talking 4-5 fps here)

 

Idk here. It seems I'm actually at a loss. When it came to Sager I could do nothing but rant and rave about how much they out perform Dell's, but judging by these benchmarks of the 1730 I'm not too confident the 9262's SLI will really out perform it. And if it does, it may only be by 10fps max which in real world playing is not that impressive.

Just basing this by the benchmarks for Crysis in Aryantes review, you can see that the fps are almost doubled. On medium running at 1920x1200 the 9262 is averaging 32fps, whereas the 1730 averages damn close to 60. And even on high the 9262 averages an almost unplayable 15fps, and the 1730 is almost breaking 30fps.

I have to admit, I'm alittle nervous as to just how much the 9262 will out perform the 1730 when NVidia finally gets their act together and releases the drivers needed to give us Sager fans our SLI 8800gtx.

 

you hit the nail right on the head.

dell are on their game and it appears way over us.

we haven't even got released out yet and we were released 8800 before them for dog sakes.

the m1730 is formidable and well may be better.

 

::insert Dooms Day music here:: haha

I have to say though, I'm glad that I waiting as long as I did before finally making a decision on which laptop to buy. So does this mean it's time for xotic pc to take the "fastest notebook on earth!!" tagline down? lol

 

did you allready purchase?

i just purchased last friday.

now i'm scared because the m1730 is looking very very very good.

i mean dell always did have the game thing down

i'm trying to have faith in the clevo, but when i talked to a re-seller about how it's going with SLI, he said the new DRIVERS they are now TESTING for SLI in the d901c and I quote " SUCK "

 

No I didn't make a purchase yet. I was waiting on some benchmarks for the 9262sli before making my decision. But now I'm pretty confident it's not even worth waiting anymore.

 

hey all i know this is about sli in d901c but hang on a second and wake up even if the dell plays a little bettle then clevo who has better support, looks better and has much better battery life then the dell piece of s$#t

 

the answer is so obviously clevo its just not funny

 

Will you guys give it a rest? THERE IS NO WAY the dell will outperform the 9262.
-Core 2 duo Extreme mobile - vs - Core 2 duo extreme or QUAD DESKTOP
-SLI -vs- SLi 88M GTX
-2 hdd - vs - 3 hdds.
-bigger price - vs - better price
In the worst possible scenario , it might be a draw.

 

dude, all that other crap doesn't matter a lick of crap.

yes as a "Whole" its a better notebook

but as it stands the VIDEO cards (what really counts) are better in the m1730 and "DRIVERS"

that's all that matters.

Seriously past a t7200 processor you won't notice a lick in hell diference in gaming.

Video cards are what matters and drivers.. that's all.

whoo i'm out of breath.

but that's seriously that.!

 

NO IT IS NOT. The CPU DOES matter,especially in new games. SURE, a 2.0 C2D is SUFFICIENT for good gaming, but for extreme, you need something really fast and powerful , and with an application that support threaded operations, a quad wins. ie. UT3.
Drivers are ALWAYS subject to change.Have you seen real user benchmarks? show me the link. And if you`re so scared just wait until SLI will get released by Sager and you won`t regret it. As a former dell user versus sager systems you should know better than that.

 

dude, trust me.

it won't make that much diff. over say a t7200.

maybe 1-2 fps. if that.

yes future games or like 2 games utilize new proc's but not really. there have been reviews about this that alot of games don't even utilize 2 cores yet.

and just look at how good the m1730 is going now double the single 8800 in crysis.

that's what were talking about. right now. not 2 years from now.

we don't currently even have SLI. or a decent driver.

and applications like encoding. who cares.

were talking about gaming.

I got this rig for gaming. that's it.

yes it's a better notebook for this and that.

but gaming. that's what were talking about.

 

who really cares anyways.

Dell is #1 right now. and good on them for it.

they are ahead of us by a good mile and they have Great DRivers.

Hopefully when we get some good drivers and they release the other Vid Card we can kick some butt.


I myself bought a d901. and I love clevo.

I want them to be the best.

I can't wait to see what they can do.

but from what it looks like now. Dell has more in's with Nvidia and driver support.

 

Show me the link to a REAL USER that has those benchmarks, I don`t care for fictional results. And if it doubled the framerate in the Dell, it will double it in the Sager also,period.

 

if that's the case then why are the re-sellers that I talk to telling me that the drivers for SLI are sucking hard..

they are giving blue screens and not working at all!

they told me that they are pushing it back until mid-march now.

Dell has a working SLI, we don't. there must be something we are missing.

and did you read that review?

that's not fictional reslults

it's a review by a respected reviewer on a respected site.

has anyone tried those 174.20? drivers they are out now?

maybe they do make a diff.

 

@dexgo
@eleron911

You're both geniuses, just don't get too nasty, ok.

 

SHOW ME A USER REVIEW, as I said. Those samples may be 'good' but until a real user with an unbiased opinion can confirm this, I call BS. Period. Relax man, you`ll have the fastest laptop on the planet...

 

no worries bud.

since those drivers came out allready, i am patrolling to see if they do in fact make much diff.

you may be right. maybe that review was just + spin for DELL.

 

Now we`re getting somewhere. It wouldn`t be the first time a review overpumped the capacities of a laptop.

 

i know.

I really do hope that they get SLI working on the d90xC.

and working well. so it murders the DELL.

 

Now we`re really going somewhere :wink:

 

I hope to dog that happens.

 

hey eleron, are you gonna get the 8800m?

you can for sure install it in your notebook right?

 

Yep I can, but right now the price is not justified for me. If I oc my 7950GTX I can reach some 6500 3dmarks and play pretty much any game.Even on high.
I will for sure get a new video card, or new laptop if this one won`t support the new 9800M GTX, whenever it will show up.
But yes, for sure I can install it.

 

Won't the current Sager NP5793 support the 9800M when it comes out ?

 

well a buddy of mine whom i trust. from NBF, Said he tried the new 174.20 drivers off of LV2g.com and he said that he was getting around 30fps smooth and constant on his 8800gtx's in SLI. so looks like that review was spot on.

I just hope that Clevo + Nvidia figures something out.

 

30 fps on Crysis on High settings and at 1920x1200 isn´t too bad. Now did they state if it were in DX10 or DX9? I will surely make a custom config that runs the game in very high settings but in DX9 instead when I get mine SLI laptop.

 

isn't too bad? it's great.

 

Anandtech is a reputable site and their reviews are usually accurate. There is no reason to believe that the reported results are not correct.

 

I would always trust a user with a notebook over any online review , if I were to buy that particular notebook.
But for referrence , I know, I love Anandtech`s reviews . It`s just that when you look into notebooks, real life opinions matter more.

 

YO! - CLEVO FANBOI'S!

There's only one good thing about Clevo...........one of it's resellers........

Xotic PC! - despite all their short-comings with this 'waste of space' SLi 8800 notebook - they did honour their part of the deal and wire transferred my £2k back into my bank account!

Accepted - Clevo/Sager's ineptitude wasn't Xotic's fault, they were just the middleman who had me waiting 2.5 months for the 'World's fastest notebook'

Well, this time I got my act together and bought the Dell M1730

And yes, the Dell IS the fastest notebook in the world - PERIOD! - reason:

8800SLi ACTUALLY DOES EXIST ON THIS NOTEBOOK - unlike the figment of Clevo's imagination!

Shows how embarrassing it is to have bought/ordered a D901C - Rock direct have even removed the Xtreme SL8 from their front page! - yeah sure, it's in the product line up - but it's no longer taking pride of place on the home page with it's brethren.

Even Sager has removed the ETA all-together for the 9262!

Let's face it chaps - Dell has beaten you fair and square on this one! - and suffice it to say - will always beat you - because by the time Clevo get their arse in gear and get this notebook to market - Dell will have moved on to their next mobile weapon! - Montevina anyone

And whoever it is who claims that the benchmarks on anandtech's website are inaccurate needs their heads looking at! - as and when the Clevo comes out - you'll be lucky to see 1 to 1.5K difference in benchmarks!

Then there's the cost angle - if I had have gone ahead with the Clevo/Sager - I would have been waiting forever more (1 to 2 months from now) and been paying £2500 ($5000) for this notebook - because I have to pay VAT on the £2k that it would have cost and what would I have gotten for my £2500..........

An out of date laptop because it's performance lead will have slipped considerably - AND - a 3 year US warranty (international customers have to pay to ship to and from the US) - so, in other words - NO WARRANTY! - and to top it all off - a laptop that - looks-wise looks quite frankly - BORING!

Check this website - you'll see many 'bling' items on here - exotic cars, fancy watches and guess what - the M1730 fits right in there!

http://www.5-flavas.com/blog/

Buying the Dell was the best decision I have ever made - consider this, for £50 less that the pre-tax price of the D901C - I got a M1730, with 3 years on-site XPS premium support, and 1 year accidental damage cover - not to mention the SLI 8800 (oopz sorry bout that)

So, basically - I got a better laptop - AND I'M QUIDS IN!

You may get 15,000 marks.........................EVENTUALLY!............

But i'll get 14,000 marks...........NOW!........well, on or before the 19th of March anyway.

Happy gaming folks on your Single 8800M 901's

 

I agree,Reading reviews on this forum is what convinced me to buy a NP9262, not anything else I read.

 

You know whats funny about this entire rant...You're comparing the two laptops like we insulted your boyfriend and now you're defending his honor. You should skip back to the dell forums...mate.

 

Dude, who gives a crap about a 1 month wait?!?. Id wait for one month for a notebook from people like Xotic than buying a Dell for 1K points in 3dmark. Sheesh.

 

What's all the talk about 1 month...........try nearly 3!

and if you would rather wait yet another month for a 1K 3DMark gain - you are sad!

Especially when, as time goes on that 1K advantage will diminish.

But, on the other hand, bling bling style, LED lights, light up keyboard, this trend will last considerably longer than your 1K 3DMark advantage.

In fact, it will last that long - that I bet this will be Clevo's next step - to actually design a laptop with a bit of style, instead of a re-hash of a design which saw the light of day nearly 4 years ago!.

I accept that the E30 3 series BMW was (and still is to many) a good looking car, but BMW's designs changed with the times - many would say for the better (I know the E36 handles better than the E30 and the E46 is better made than the E36!)

I say one thing about many of you on this forum, you are devoted, almost to the point of brainwashing!

When Clevo 'hyped up the 8800 SLi laptop' back in November 2007, there wasn't much news of any competition, but as time went on news surfaced, and the competition had not only crept up within a month, but one such manufacturer actually brought it's product into the market place!

Now me, on the other hand, I approach things with an open mind - sick of the endless delays with a 'so called' top of the line notebook like the D901C - I decided to weigh up the competition, and albeit Dell does not have MXM, does that really matter, when you consider that Clevo's MXM needed a motherboard upgrade to support the 8800???

I would have favoured the m17x, if it weren't for the fact that AW support is lacking, and also the fact that there is no m17x!, so my hands were tied - I want an 8800SLi laptop NOW, not in 3 months time - and Dell has delivered.

So what if it may not be as fast (albeit you are underestimating the Dell) - at the end of the day - this is computers - no computer retains the 'fastest' title for more than a couple of months because of the sheer speed in which the industry develops.

I would much rather have something which I asked for - asap, i.e. I wanted 'the best' at the time I ordered - this is what I thought I was getting with the 9262 - but it quite simply isn't the best (at this present time - and this is the time I am wanting the best!) - unfortunately for you, the Dell is the best - and I want the best now - not tomorrow (figuratively speaking) because there is no way to predict what will be the best 'tomorrow' - the Dell has proven that.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing - and if I could have predicted that Dell would have brought out the XPS M1730 with 8800SLi before the 9262, that in effect would be the best laptop in the world, at the time I had the funds, therefore that is what I wanted, and Clevo didn't have it - hence the reason I refused to wait for the 2nd card - that is not what I paid for - I wanted the best, and should have received the best - instead I watched the competition get there first.

Some people might be prepared to settle for 2nd best - but I won't - if I can afford the best, then that's what I shall have.

The Dell is currently the best, therefore the best is what I want - and Dell can suipply it, hence the reason I ordered it! - If AW had have got there first - I would have said the same and ordered the AW, but they didn't either!

So there's my 'impartial' view on Clevo notebooks.

I can also give you my 'impartial' view on Dell's telephone service - dissappointing - I had to order my XPS 3 times, before Dell got the price right - but when they did, I got an even better discount! - £1920 for a notebook with 8800SLi 3 year on-site warranty and 1 year accidental damage cover - I call that pretty good! - despite beein transferred 7 times on the switchboard

 

So. Let me get this straight. Am I to understand that you wanted the best??
When the 9800M comes out will you be able to upgrade your card?

 

I thought we didn't allow trolls on the boards here? I'm sorry Andy, but there's really no need for your reply. It doesn't give anyone any new information, it doesn't solve a problem. It just causes arguing. Enjoy your Dell. I'm glad you have your 8800M SLI. The rest of us who prefer Sager/Clevo like our laptops more than Dell laptops. Why not just leave it at that and go play Crysis with a higher frame rate than the rest of us.

 

hey guess what?

NO ONE CARES

 

He cant. He only ordered it 3 days ago.

 

lol hes chirping and he has no notebook yet?

if you show up to a boat race in a dingy you would look pretty foolish, kinda how you lookin right now.