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    Idle/Light Load Temp For An X9000 @ 3.2 GHz In A M570RU-U?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Paralel, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. Paralel

    Paralel Notebook Evangelist

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    What is the expected idle/light load temp for an X9000 @ 3.2 GHz in a M570RU-U w/ AS-5 and the stock heatsink?

    The idle/light load temp for the X9000 @ 3.2 GHz in my M570RU-U seems to be quite high. With the fan set to auto (sounds like it is running at 50-60%), and the minimum processor state set to 100% (so it doesn't clock down below 3.2 GHz) at idle it stays around 78°C and at a light/medium load stays at around 80°C.

    With the minimum processor state set to 5% and the fan set to Fn+3 (quiet mode) it stays at 69°C and at a light load stays around 70°C.

    Does this sound like a high idle/light load temp or is it about right? If too much AS-5 is applied can it cause the idle temp to run high? What should I set as a reasonable upper limit temp for the processor running a medium load in order to ensure that it will most likely last for at least 3 years?
     
  2. spaghetticheese

    spaghetticheese Notebook Smasher

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    wrong section i think m'lad :S

    i'm sure a nice mod will move it to the hardware components section

    with regard to ur question.... at those temperatures the cpu will start downclocking itself to stop it overheating, so yes, it is running far too hot.

    what vcore do you have it set on?
     
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    Work on lowering the voltage if you can.
     
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    That sounds high to me. I idle around 30c and under load it is around 80c at 3.6GHz. The X9000 has a tjmax of 105c and should be stable to that temp but most laptops will shut down before you get that high.
     
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    The x9000 in my HDX never breaks 75 at 3.4, the OP may need to repaste as well.
     
  6. Paralel

    Paralel Notebook Evangelist

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    I apologize for putting this in the wrong section, I had meant to put it in the Clevo forum. I apparently had a brain fart.

    According to Everest Ultimate the VCore is 1.23 when the minimum processor state is set to 100%, when it is set to 5% it generally runs at .93.

    What do I need in order to drop the voltage? I tried ThrottleStop but the voltage section is grayed out.
     
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    If you're overclocking with the BIOS, then you can use the undervolting guide here.
     
  8. Paralel

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    Thank you for the guidance.
     
  9. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    If its an Xtreme Cpu use Throttlestop + CpuGenie.

    CpuGenie lets you test every frequency and voltage individually with a 3min stress test.
    Thats how i found my stable voltages and speeds with my X9100.
    Then with Throttlestop, configure the profiles with the infos gathered with CpuGenie.
    No need to act in bios,Xtreme cpus can be configured from windows.Throttlestop helps alot in doing this, just right click wheres the stats panel (right side of the application) and hit Unlock max FID/VID.
     
  10. Paralel

    Paralel Notebook Evangelist

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    I have figured out at least part of my problem.

    Apparently Everest Ultimate sucks and reports the ACPI THRM as a CPU temp rather than as ACPI THRM. As a result I have been reading the THRM temp as my CPU temp...

    However, I apparently still have a problem. With my CPU going flat out while running ORTHOS My Core 0 & Core 1 temps on HWMonitor are only 50°C but I am hitting my ACPI THRM limit which is forcing my processor to clock down.

    Is there anything I can do about this nebulous ACPI THRM limit?

    Is this THRM my northbridge temp? The hottest area on the bottom of my laptop appears to be where the northbridge is located.
     
  11. Audigy

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    One quick peak in the service manual, help us identify the thermal controller. It's a F75383M from Fintek.

    This controller can monitor two signals, one from the internal CPU thermal diode and another external. If any of both goes over the programmed limit temperature, the THRM pinout(with a binary state signal) alerts external circuits about the overheating. ALERT pinout sends a shutdown signal if the THRM limit is exceeded by a margin.

    [​IMG]

    So the ACPI THRM reading will reflect one of the temperatures in wich the board uses to diagnosticate overheating situations.

    In my M571RU, the THRM it's normally 5/10ºC over the CPU temperature. Considering that the CPU signal can from the incore diode, any external sensors should have lower values, wich in this case don't happen.

    The +/-3ºC deviation don't cut it. Maybe the sensor is near the northbridge, very near. I've changed the northbridge heatsink in the past( http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/251746-how-change-chipset-heatsink-m57xru.html) and that value didn't change much.

    About the limit, you can use RMClock to disable DFFS(Dynamic FSB Frequency Switching) as well TM1 and TM2.
     
  12. Paralel

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    Very interesting.

    During testing I got my THRM up to 97C using ORTHOS and I can say without a doubt no part of my system was anywhere near the boiling point of water.

    I concur with your determination that the northbridge has little to do with THRM as the temp didn't change more than 1 or 2C even after I ripped the heatsink off my northbridge and ran ORTHOS.

    I can't imagine where the external THRM sensor is getting its data...

    Should THRM being taken seriously in this instance or should I just ignore it?