If I get a rebranded Clevo, will I get exactly the same MXM type / power brick??

Hey guys,

I´m seriously thinking about getting a 570RU, but under a different brand: Ahtec, which sells computers in Spain, Netherlands and Belgium (as far as I know). If you´re interested, you can see their prices and specs in here: http://www.ahtec.net/

Basically, I´m waiting for the upcoming 8800 (as everyone else, right?) and it seems "quite likely" that this particular laptop (570RU = X57R for the Ahtec) will be able to get one of those cards, if I have to believe what most of the people think around here (and I´m quite happy believing that, trust me... (But if you feel compelled "to make me sad", do it before I open my wallet, please ;-)

However, I just read a post from Chaz saying that they use propietary technology for their MXM cards, and I don´t know if the Ahtecs will have exactly the same MXM as the Clevos or Sagers. If it wasn´t the case, I would be stuck with that card forever, which is what I´m trying to avoid as much as possible (it´s easier for me to justify the buy that way, if you know what I mean... ;-) I naturally tried contacting them, but the people on the phone have no clue, so I thought about asking you guys what do you think it´s more possible.

I also have to consider how much juice this beautys are going to get, that´s why I asked about the power brick (and who knows, should I be worried about the motherboard as well??)

So, any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys

 

You can be sure that if you get a Clevo M570RU (from any reseller), that it would be the same barebones.... the HDD, RAM, CPU, DVD-RW might be the only things that are different (since customers will want to choose which ones that they would want).

The Clevo M570RU has two cards available for it now (7950GTX or 8700M GT)... in Fall the Quadro 3500M will be available for it.... in Winter the 8800M beast should appear for it as well.

So NO, you will not be stuck with one card for that notebook.

 

Man, that´s what I call a definitive reply... ;-) I greatly appreciate it.

I read Chaz saying that Clevos use "propietary MXM", but if they share it in ALL the rebranded models, there should be no problems whatsoever...

But how did they manage with the power brick? If they follow the desktop tendency, we will end up with a MUCH MORE demanding card, right? (Much more than the current 7950GTX 45W TDP, I guess)

Any "official" info about this?

Thanks again man. You´re ubiquitous.

 

The Official info can mainly confirm the following videocards for this notebook:
- Nvidia 7950GTX
- Nvidia 8700M GT
- Nvidia Quadro 3500M

The 8800M (not official model name yet) is on schedule, says Nvidia this year. They even had info to show that the 8800M models will have a 22w+ envelope... which is amazing (but probably for the lowest end 8800M... while the high-end version will go upwards to 35-45w).

 

Wow, that´s incredible. If it finally happened to be the case, we would be able to put the most powerful 8800 in there. I kinda like it...

 

yea i think that will be the case, because else nvidia's marketing strategy stinks XD

what about 8950?

 

Give me a "8950" instead of a 8800 any day...

 

Wow, sounds good for the NP9260 owners to go SLI 8800 when they are released.

I dont think that heat will be an issue my idle temps are 35C on the CPU and 41C on the GPU and running GRAW for an hour on an external monitor max settings 1600x1200 res my temps are CPU 42C and GPU 47C.

This is with no cooler, just tweaked my fan settings with GetThermal.

 

CRFfred,

you realize that the Clevo D900C (Sager 9260) has a built in Fan Toggle (Fn+1) to toggle all fans to Max Speed (from default Auto Speed).

I recommend to always use that Fan Toggle and a notebook cooler (Zalman ZM-NC1000... especially while gaming.

Dont forget to do monthly checks on the fans and vents... clean them out with Q-tips and compressed air.

 

47º celsius AFTER PLAYING??

Man, tell us the truth, you´re not using GetThermal, you´re playing inside the fridge...

 

The thermal design in these new Clevo notebooks is amazing... even better than most desktop videocard stock cooling designs.

 

I am not BSing, I have the system lifted about 2" from the desk so it gets more air flow. And with the fans on max those are the temps that are being displayed in Riva Tuner and NHC. When I have the system on the desk without the 2" lift the temps raise about 10 degrees across the board.

"CRFfred,

you realize that the Clevo D900C (Sager 9260) has a built in Fan Toggle (Fn+1) to toggle all fans to Max Speed (from default Auto Speed).

I recommend to always use that Fan Toggle and a notebook cooler (Zalman ZM-NC1000... especially while gaming.

Dont forget to do monthly checks on the fans and vents... clean them out with Q-tips and compressed air"

Thanks Gophn for the tip, I did not know that. Will use that instead of GetThemal.

 

I certainly take your word for it, but, is there any chance that you´re getting inaccurate temperatures for whatever reason?

Please realize that many users with the 8600GT (a far less demanding card) are getting above 50º IDLE (just check the Asus or Acers forum, for example). (And now that I've checked, above 90ºC after playing, some users with some games. Talking about 40ºC difference here)

As Gophn said, I understand that Clevo guys could´ve been specially "bright" this time, but, getting those numbers just because of the cooling system, it´s simply beyond my comprehension...

 

Thanks Gophn, using the Fan Toggle (Fn+1) my temps went to CPU 34c and GPU 36C idle. I will test with GRAW and post back.

 

Wow, the most powerful notebooks, as well as one of the coolest at the same time.

Clevo FTW.

 

Is it any surprise that big "boutique" brands such as Alienware or Voodoo use Clevo designs for "their" laptop designs?

 

Just finished a round of Graw, All settings max 1920x1200 native res on lappy screen, average FPS 26-30 never dopped below 24FPS no OC. The temps were CPU 36C and GPU 38C with machine raised 2" from desk top and fans on full.

 

LOLOL!! So now 9ºC less?!

Please, check my post when I suggested you might have some problems with your sensors (I think the post remained unnoticed, since it´s stuck between duplicates)

 

IMHO I dont believe that the sensors on the CPU and the GPU would both be faulty. These 4 fans move a massive amount of air through the cooling vents when on max.

The first temps I posted were with using GetThermal, the fans were high, but when I used the Fn+1 these fans are on super high now.

I hope more people that have the NP9260 will post so we can compare.

If these temps are correct which I believe are, the 8800 SLI should be no problem for the NP9260

 

I certainly do not have an educated opinion enough to determine whether or not that´s possible, or even "easy" to happen.

But man, please consider that the outer surface of your skin is hitting roughly the 36º celsius. Do you REALLY believe that after 1 hour of GRAW you do have 38º celsius on your GPU????

As I told you, there´s people out there getting 90+ in their 8600. So unless your cooling system is designed by Harry Potter himself, that´s completely impossible.

I´m surprised that nobody else chime in to discuss these crazy temperatures. Some educated opinion will appear, eventually.

 

Wrong. Alienware doesn't use Clevo anymore apart from their oldest model atm - the 19" AMD SLi one, forgot what the exact number... Alienware used to sell the Clevo D900K but thats the laptop which gave Alienware its current "bad" rep (I'm talking about the kind of people who say: Oh my m7700 melted the other day, Alienware build quality sux0rs)

Voodoo does still use Clevos, Alienware has exclusive rights to the Arima W830-DA for their m9700 and has modded the Arima W830-DA for its m9750 on which I'm currently getting 50-60C idle and 75~ ingame

 

I do understand that its hard to believe for a notebook, my desktop machine with a DFI mobo, ATI X1900XTX Zalman cooler, 2 gigs DDR ram, idle is 42C. I would like to have some other 9260 owners test this out. I am kind of second guessing it to. But when I turn off the fans from max my temps go to about 53C - 55C idle and gaming with GRAW 2 it goes to about 63C with a 2" lift. So the temps are pretty close to normal. If I lower it to just sit on a hard surface my temps go to 75C when gaming GRAW 2.

 

I have a E6700, and Sli setup and three 160gb 7200 rpm drives. I use two Laptop Coolers plus two Thermaltake Fans. The total Fan count is four in the D900C and six external. All fans are set to full. If not the GPU runs to 55+ at idle.

SpeedFan and Hardware Monitoring report 35 to 40 at the GPU, 24 to 30 at the CPU and 45 to 50 at the hottest hard drive. Even sitting with sunlight thru a window on the Laptop does not build more than 5c at the GPU.

Keyboard, the deck and even the exhaust remain cool. Just don't feel any heat build up during CAD use or playing Oblivion. Hope that info helps.

 

Hey Alan, 55+ makes sense, the aforementioned 36 did not.

Thanks a lot, it certainly helped.

(I´m still surprised with the scarce "success" of this thread, though, provided the "extraordinary" results that are being discussed...)

 

I had a Dell XPS with the 3.4 Extreme Edition. It cooked even with an aluminum fan cooler under it. The difference, 15.4" screen to 17", one 5400 rpm ata drive to (3) SATA 2 (300 speed) 7200 drives, and the jump from ATI9800 to dual 7950 video, frankly I expected heat generating. But this Laptop was cheaper than the Overdrive PC Desktop I priced out. And it is so much cooler than the Dell system. I am constantly amased at how cool and relatively quiet it is. And jumping to weight, either I've gotten allot stronger or this system isn't significantly heavier than a packed up Dell XPS. Go ahead and tell me that I've gotten muscle bound!

Granted, I don't care about battery life, its performance that I am looking for. I'm not happy about passing on the X6800 cpu, but I couldn't bring myself to bite that bullet. I ended up under $ 3,700 at this point, and will add a faster cpu someday. And maybe some 8800 upgrades someday.

It nice to have something additional to look forward to, while not having to scrap the existing Laptop. Maybe that's the tag line, the D900C has room to grow. Imagine room to grow on a rocket! What's not to like about this product?

If a salesman uses this post to land a Laptop sale, I want credit for the text!