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    In my Crusade for a better Bios NP9260

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by WackMan, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. WackMan

    WackMan Notebook Guru

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    OK here is the letter I sent to Sager and Clevo requesting a better bios. I also included the email addresses to both Sager and Clevo at the bottom of this post. Maybe if enough people send emails out to both Clevo and Sager or who ever they bought their Laptop from, they might do something about it. I can’t do it without your help guys. Tee-off on what I wrote and let us see where it leads.

    Dear Sir/Madam,
    I have had a Sager NP9260 for almost 4 months now and I am not very happy with it. It is a good Laptop but the bios in it has absolutely no options what so ever. It does not even have a Performance option. This is a Laptop for the enthusiast, we paid a lot of money for it, and we would like to see a better bios in it. When I say we, it is because there are a lot of NP9260 (D900C/901) owners out there who share my opinion. I have posted a number of threads on Notebook Forums ( http://forum.notebookreview.com) and one of them was a petition for a better bios. Mr. Eurocom of Eurocom was the only person who tried to help, and I believe he sent the R&D department at Clevo a list of bios option I would like added to the bios.

    Had I known that this machine had no bios options I would have not purchased it. As it stands I can not recommend your Laptops. Sometimes games run ok on it and others it is choppy. For a machine with specs like that it should fly through everything.

    Dell offers overclocking options on their XPS models and their latest model is very competitive to your NP9261 (D900C/901).

    The NP9260, in my opinion is underclocked and some performance options are locked.
    This machine is not running any where near its performance potential. Also I would like to know why the Hardware Virtualization is locked off on this machine?

    If the reason for not offering bios options is for RMA reasons, well that is not a good enough reason. It is easy to overclock the GPU and a lot are doing that. Also you would be hard pressed to damage anything by overclcoking. There are limits to overclcoking and the system will not allow overclocking to limits it can not handle.

    We are not asking for much, we would like to have more options in the bios so we can tweak our systems.

    Here is a list of bios options a lot of owners would like to see:

    1- CPU Clock Ratio (CPU multiplier).
    2- CPU Host Clock Control: Enable/Disable.
    3- CPU Host Frequency (CPU FSB) preferably in small increments
    4- PCI Express Frequency
    5- DRAM Frequency (Memory Frequency Auto, 533, 667, 800, 889, 1067.
    6- If not the above then a System Memory Multiplier :)
    7- DRAM Timing Selectable (DSP) Auto/Manual.
    8- Spread Spectrum Enable/Disable
    9-Intel SpeedStep Enable/Disable
    10- C1E Enhanced halt State Enable/Disable
    11- Execute Disable Bit Enable/Disable
    12- Virtualization Technology Enable/Disable
    13- PCI Freq. Independent setting in small increments.

    Chances are you will not honor our request but at least give us a few options..


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  2. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No laptop BIOS has an option for overclocking. The hardware really does not have the thermal or safety margins to do so.
     
  3. WackMan

    WackMan Notebook Guru

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    Greg, check this link out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9cV3oNOBQ Live overclocking of the Dell XPS m1710 laptop.
     
  4. hox

    hox Notebook Consultant

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    Asus C90s also has an overclock option up to 2.93 Ghz.
     
  5. jd91651

    jd91651 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Great list and let me add to the bios list the following items.

    14. The ability to enable / disable the following:
    a. Lan NIC (if you only use it wirelessly why have it enabled)
    b. Serial port / modem (why is this even still an option in 2007)
    c. on-board sound (for those who want to add there own card or usb snd)
    d. special "game/application" buttons (real cutsie but something like 3-5 programs are running just to access them. I'll use the start menu thanks anyhow)
    e. camera (Lot's of ppl will want this but I don't use it).

    15. PC Health monitor showing temps and voltages. (So we can verify the settings we are being shown in software monitors like speedfan, Riva, NHC etc. and adjust the offsets so they are accurate against known good values (provided by the bios health monitor) and not just an educated guess.
     
  6. CRFfred

    CRFfred Notebook Consultant

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    Would be nice to be able to control our machines a bit more than just blocking us from doing anything in the bios. Especially when you have such a monster of a system and you cant push it a little.
     
  7. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    agreed though overclocking is usually not a good thing on a notebook unless its a beast like the 2961, or the 1730. the smaller 15.4" ones prob will not be able to handle the extra heat very well and you may gain what a 10% oc? not worth it imo