In the market... xotic vs origin

I'm looking at sager laptops and believe I want the np9758. Are there any opinions of xotic pc vs origin pc on this model? Looking at 970m with i5 cpu. Thoughts?

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It's going to be the same base Clevo model, with about the same customization offered through either of us.

If you have any questions that I can help with, please reach out to me. Thanks!

 

Stay way from Origin PC, they have horrible quality control issues.

On their forums you will see all the horror stories of people receiving their systems not working out of the box or failing within a week's time. You have to be a registered member though to see the first 2 private sub forums.

Secondly, when I bought my Origin PC Millennium Desktop for 9000 USD. After 3 months I wanted to sell it. So I contacted them to transfer the warranty to the new owner and they denied the request telling me the warranty and system is not transferable. Very bad support for such an expensive system that I couldn't have sold anymore if my buyer wasn't understanding and I told him if anything goes wrong with it to contact me I will do the needful.

See my review of HIDevolution and why I recommend them:

HIDevolution - The Best Company I ever dealt with

Also see:

Outstanding support from Eurocom!


What I did was, I told HIDevolution to get me a Eurocom Sky X9 since I wanted to have the Prema unlocked BIOS. Since they have good relations with Eurocom, they ordered the system from Eurocom but it is under the awesome HIDevolution warranty which covers shipping cost of the unit back and forth should anything go wrong with your system.

 

Thanks for that phoenix. Will definitely look into HIDevolution. I do like some of the "extra" that origin pc adds in. But if the quality control is terrible it's not worth "extras"

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What extras are you talking about bro?

HIDevolution have some nice extras like installing coollaboratory liquid ultra for you, installing an advanced copper heatsink, they have more options for RAM configs vs origin PC. The only part where Origin PC wins is custom painting and whatnot, but then Xotic PC can do that as well.

 

Origin throws in a free sleeve it looks like on the unboxings, which is nice. Right now they are giving a hoodie and t-shirt as well. Plus just 41 bucks for a wooden crate (not that it actually adds any protection or value). I would probably go with stock ram. Get a 250gb ssd and a 750gb-1tb hard drive. Doubt I even overclock so I wouldn't necessarily need the liquid ultra. The way you put it brings my decision down to HIDevolution vs xotic.

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When you look at the bigger picture, those freebies are just stupid IMHO (no offense). You want an enthusiast performance laptop, not a bunch of free T-shirts and whatnot.

Do you want to take the risk of receiving a laptop that doesn't work out of the box or fails within a short period of time? I am giving you real world user experience. Like in my case when ordering the Origin PC Millennium, I asked them to install Windows in a certain way and do certain things. What I received is a stock Windows that they install for all customers and then just re-image to a new SSD/HDD. I could tell because I saw in the recycle bin there was many folders of a recycle bin with an uknown owner like (2cesdsXXXXXX).

Now do your research and decide who you want to go with.

I cannot stress enough how awesome the HIDevolution is. For example, with my first Clevo P870DM-G, I had one of the keys (Insert Key) just popout and no matter how many times I re fitted it, it would always pop out if I press it a few times. So they sent me a new key which I didn't have to pay for shipping for. No luck. Then they sent me a whole new keyboard and made me a step by step video on how to replace it. It's like they were virtually with me here in Dubai. They didn't ask for the old keyboard back even so I have some spare keys now if I need.

If you face any issue which a component that is easily replaceable, they will send it to you so you don't sit without your laptop. If the system needs to go for a major repair, they will pay for shipping back and forth.

It's your money after all

 

You could do our white glove for a little less and is great protection on a laptop during shipment.

You're looking at an awesome rig, we'd love to help you! Let me know if there's anything that I can do.

 

Thanks. Will definitely be considering that when ordering. Going to be a couple weeks out. Waiting on tax return.

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I just ordered the Sager NP9870 S from xotic and I am super excited and looking forward to seeing how much of a beast this Phoenix truly is. It's been over a decade since i've touched anything deeper into a system other than standard bios to setup my ssd on the last machine i had. I've read a lot in the forums here already and look forward to reading more. I'm hoping Xoticpc proves to be as wonderful and reliable as i have read and been told. Any advice and words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated from all. Happy browsing and I will post my build here so you can comment on anything you wish. Thanks

Sager NP9870-S (Clevo P870DM-G)
Customization / Upgrades:
1 x 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty 24/7 Tech Support w/ LCD Accidental Damage Protection for Sager Machines $345.00
1 x Custom Painted Laptop [Full Chassis] - [Gecko Green] *Adds 9-16 Business Days to Build (XPC Service) $359.00
1 x Windows® 10 Pro 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled (Clean Install | Drivers Only | No Bloatware) $130.00
1 x Custom Formed & Injected Foam Premium White Glove Packaging (XPC Service) $39.00
1 x SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (16.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX12 (Maxwell) $250.00
1 x XOTIC PC / GEEK FUEL - Mystery Box Filled with Toys and Gadgets Perfect for Any Gamer or Geek! $29.00
1 x XOTIC PC LED Lighted Lanyard $11.99
1 x 500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD $90.00
1 x 500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD $195.00
1 x Raid 0 Stripe Enabled (Requires 2 or 3 Hard Drives. Combines Hard Drives for performance) $0.00
1 x 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] - Bay 2 $75.00

 

Thanks for placing your order with us!

Looks like you have quite the beast getting made there. I think Joe in sales is going to be jealous, as I know he was talking about getting a 9870 with green paint himself a couple weeks ago.

If you have any questions along the way or once you get it, just let us know what we can help with!

 

Joe is actually the gentleman i talked to and who answered all my questions. He advised me on a few things and taught me some things i wasn't aware of.

 

I thought it might be the case. Shortly after he was mentioning that model, he told me that someone else was looking at the same thing. (he sits next to me). I'll make sure he doesn't get attached to it before it ships out

 

Dang man you went whole hog on that order, it's going to be SWEET! Can't wait to see that NP9870 in gecko green
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Glad Joe got you all fixed up! feel free to reach out to any of us directly if you need anything. Something to keep in mind is it will take awhile since it's built at sager than comes back here for the full paint, but the unboxing will be totally worth it!

Just know your in good hands

 

Yeah i'm sure he will. I talked to Matt this morning and i guess you guys got pretty hammered with snow! Hope you all are safe and warm. Just hoping the weather doesn't get worse so i can get my machine in the next two weeks otherwise i have to wait another 2 weeks for work. I will post pics and reviews on the forums when i get it!

 

probably won't be 2 weeks, takes about that long just to paint it (and it still has to be built) we get it built from sager and then have to completely disassemble it, prep it, paint multiple coats, plus a clear coat, each coat has dry time as well so it's a lengthy process but the end result is beautiful.

As long as Joe doesn't try to buy it out from under you we'll get it to you as soon as possible, just don't want to set the wrong expectation as perfection takes time

 

The Machine is already in prep right now that's what i learned today. So pending Snowfall in your neck of the woods might still be close! (order was placed back on the 18 of January)

 

ah man i'm sorry i'm running half blind here i guess. We'll get it rolling, glad some of it is already over then it will be close.

 

HAHA no worries i didn't really mention that part until now. Yes it will be close but i'm hopeful

 

Thats some sick looking specs. Hope you enjoy that build when you get it. Im pretty certain I'm going to go with the NP9758. I'm just not certain whether i want the 980m or not.

 

I did not had good experience with Origin PC. I've ordered Eon17-x sleeve (about $20 usd.), and it took about 1 month for me to get the actual sleeve. DO NOT USE ORIGIN PC. They are expensive, and have bad customer service.

 

Very nice choice! If it works in the budget i'd say get the 980m. It'll be cheaper to do it on the front end than if you want to upgrade to it a year from now. Just something to consider.

Let me know if there's anything that I can do!

 

my budget is right at the $2k mark. configured with the i5 6600k, 980m, 250gb ssd, 1tb HDD, ic diamond thermal, and win 10 comes out to be $2084.53. Will have to see how that fits when tax return comes in but I have a feeling I may have to back off the 980m.

 

To bad they aren't giving a new PC write off! A little unconventional but you might back off of the 250gb SSD and put that in later as you can get pretty good deals on those still on amazon, Just a thought? if you buy a 980m down the road to put in you just don't get the credit for the 970m (while you could sell it yourself as well). but just the cheaper easier way to go if you are eventually going to want the 980m.

 

In all actuality it's going to be for business use so I will be able to write half of it off for office expense on next year's taxes. Will just have to put a pencil to it when this return comes in and see what I can swing. Will definitely consider the option of adding ssd later but really that's just 90 bucks or so for a m2 slot 1.

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One more question... would the 330w power brick offer benefit with a 6600k/980m?

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Unless you're going to overclock the CPU and GPU, no.

 

You should be good with the 230w it sounds like, if you want to get into some crazy overclocking it could come in handy.

 

just submitted my order for a np9758.

1 x IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU (Cools better than all Compounds) $35.00
1 x Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled (Clean Install | Drivers Only | No Bloatware) $80.00
1 x Custom Formed & Injected Foam Premium White Glove Packaging (XPC Service) $39.00
1 x Laptop Personalization Text Etching – [Bottom of Laptop] (Add your name to your laptop) *Adds 4-9 Business Days to Build (XPC Service)$39.00
1 x 6th Generation Intel® Skylake™ i5-6600K (3.5GHz - 3.9GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache) -$100.00
1 x NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (8.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX12 (Maxwell) $275.00
1 x 16GB DDR4 2133MHz [2x8GB] Dual Channel Memory $65.00
1 x 250GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD $115.00

 

Thank you for placing your order with us. If you have any questions about your order or when you get the computer, just let me know what I can help with.

 

Thanks pat. I set up an account after I placed my order. Is there any way to get my order set up on my new account so I can track the progress? I used the same email.

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If the order was placed as a guest account before the order was made, unfortunately I don't have a way to link those together. You'll still get updates about the order through email every time it goes to a new phase, and you could reach out to us too if you have questions on it.

 

Awesome build! You'll be happy with it! Let Pat or I know if you need anything!

 

Looks great Jimbo hope you enjoy yours as much as I intend to enjoy mine!!! Still hoping to get mine in the next few days otherwise it's going to be a long two weeks at work lol...

 

just got a notification that my order has shipped. Took just over 2 weeks to complete my order with some lazer etching. hoping to see this thing come fedex by Thur. Not bad timing at all

 

Nice to hear Jimbo you'll have to post pics of your etch job curious to see how it turned out! Mines being held until i return home in a week then they are shipping it out.

 

Exciting times! I hope you enjoy it when it arrives!

 

I intend to fully! I'm eagerly awaiting the "footage" i heard you guys are working on. Tide me over until next Thursday LOL

 

I certainly will post a pic or 2 for ya.

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I was hoping to have a chance to do it today, but the paint finish wasn't completely done yet. Soon...

Please do, I didn't get a chance to see the final product.

 

Everything looks great but one thing. The tomb raider game wasn't included in the box. I chatted with Eric and he said to email support so I did that yesterday but haven't for a response. Is there a way I can still get this game?

Thanks pat

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Yeah, those games are digital download codes, and not anything included in the box. Nvidia used to give us post cards that had a scratch off box, but it is all digital. If you emailed in, then you should get that soon, once it is requested. Otherwise, send me your order number and I can get that for you too. Glad to hear everything was great otherwise!

 

looking good Jimbo when you said etch work i was thinking art work not identity tag LOL guess that's what i get for assuming! Hope you like your new machine and it treats you well.