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    Installed a new GTX 580 card in P150HM, but now beeping, blinking and loud fans.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Izrendi, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Izrendi

    Izrendi Newbie

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    Hello all,

    A few months back my old GTX 485M card died in my CLEVO P150HM. All i had was a black screen even though I could hear windows boot up.

    I ordered a replacement - the GTX 580M from this French clevo reseller (as Im based in Paris) http://www.pcw.fr/shop/composants/carte-video/mxm.html

    I installed it today but sadly even though the screen now shows up and boots into windows, within a minute it starts beeping and all three LED lights flash simultaneously. Also the fans go straight up to full speed. It then shuts itself off after a minute or so.

    I tried redoing the install a couple of times - checking all the pads and thermal paste etc.
    The card doesnt seem to get hot so I dont know why this happens.

    Please would anyone be able to shed any light on this?

    Is the card faulty?

    Would a CLEVO reseller have mistakenly given me an incompatible DELL card?

    Many thanks !
     
  2. Izrendi

    Izrendi Newbie

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    Another interesting thing... I cant seem to enter BIOS or Setup by pressing F2 or DEL. It just hangs on a black screen before doing the beeping and shut down thing.
     
  3. Niaphim

    Niaphim Notebook Consultant

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    What you are describing happens when there is no card installed or when there is a faulty contact between a card and a motherboard. In particular it is when there is no information about temperature coming from your card, controller thinks your card is terribly overheated and shuts down.
    What happens when you insert your "dead" card? Is it like before - your computer boots? If it doesn't beep, then it's probably the 580m card problem.
    Another possibility is that you have BIOS compatibility issue, but I am not a big specialist in this area. Basically, if yes, you just have to update your BIOS.
     
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  4. Izrendi

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    So would that be that the card does not work? Or that there is a mobo problem? Or badly inserted card?
     
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    One more thing - if that is so... then why before with the old faulty 485 card was the only a black screen. Yet with this card I can now get to Windows in VGA mode?
     
  6. Niaphim

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    If your other card works, your motherboard is most likely good, so my bet is either you didn't insert it well (but if you matched all screws shouldn't be the case I think) , or pads placement (do you have a proper heatsink?), or a vBIOS problem (indeed, if it is a Dell card, it has a different vBIOS), or it is a faulty card. Check in this order.

    Because you got hardware problems with your 485, but technically it was present and detected.
    Your 580m is not seen by your system, and so your system uses its internal graphics (VGA), but an MXM system can't run without a GPU, so it thinks that something is terribly wrong and shuts down after a minute.
     
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    Thanks for the info !

    Well I think it must be inserted OK, and I guess a MOBO problem is unlikely. I have a little doubt about the pads placement. I reused the pads that were on the previous card (it has the exact same form), but perhaps they are no longer efficient. Although - if overheating vRAM was an issue - would it really heat up and crash so quickly?

    The heatsink is the same as for the 485 - it fits fine as both cards have the same form and chip placement.

    It may be a vBios issue if it is a DELL card. Is there anyway of knowing what card it is? There wasnt anything written on the card about DELL.

    Perhaps its a dud card which would be disappointing as I waited several months for it to arrive...

    Also - do you know why I cant seem to enter BIOS? Is the card problem blocking that?
     
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    Best way is when you upgrade to gtx 680m!

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
     
  9. Izrendi

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    Hey guys,

    Took it to the French clevo dealer here, and did some thorough testing. It appears the motherboard is bricked... so its good night, as a replacement mobo for the P150HM is way to expensive to be worth it.

    Any ideas on where to buy a good replacement CLEVO laptop in Europe - in the region of 7-800 euros barebones?

    What 15 inch model and gpu would you recommend? For work, music software and light gaming.

    Cheers !
     
  10. Niaphim

    Niaphim Notebook Consultant

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    As for GPU - depends on how "light" your gaming is. You didn't mention any graphically intensive applications, sometimes even an iGPU can do the trick. I am currently limited to an Intel HD 4000 and am able to run games like LoL and Diablo 3 on high settings (140 and 40 fps respectively). If you want more power, take 970m if you can. A nice choice and will serve you well for a few years. supports DirectX 12 and runs most current games on high-ultra. Also not that expensive.
    Clevo 15" with 970m are P650RE (cheaper, but soldered CPU and GPU) or P750DM (upgradeable, but more expensive)
    As for vendor for barebones/GPU - check out CEG (8th post in this thread) - they sell Clevo components and their prices are really good, at least compared to French vendor you mentioned. Also they sell barebones.
    Of course, there are others as well.

    You might want to check this forum as well
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/what-notebook-should-i-buy.16/
     
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    960m is a rebranded 860m, it uses GM107 chip from Maxwell 1st generation. If you are fine with its performance, it is a decent choice.

    Now, for the components:
    SSD - yes, if it is a 2.5", no if it is an mSATA.
    RAM - it should work, if it is the same type - DDR3. For other models with DDR3L memory -probably not or needs some tweaking, or just risky
     
  13. Izrendi

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    Great info as usual.

    I have looked into the dealers you suggested and will wait till friday to see what prices and deals show up.

    This list looks promising:
    http://www.ceg-hardcorecustom.com/category/black-friday

    Also here:
    http://www.mysn.de/cyber-deals

    Of particular interest : P655SE and the XMG P505

    How do these all compare ? (other than the better GPU, the 970 instead of 960).

    I believe the P655 is the one with soldered card and cpu, whereas the XMG P505 can change or upgrade GPU and CPU?

    Frustrating that they solder parts as if GPU or CPU dies you have to bin the whole thing...

    These models are starting to get a bit above what i would like to spend ideally... but we will see what discounts black friday brings ;-)

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    One further question - do you think it is worthwhile selling my P150HM for a low price on ebay... maybe someone will have use of it for spare parts? What would that be worth?
     
  14. Niaphim

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    You got it right. You pay more for the possibility to replace/upgrade components later or you pay less and hope for the best. It doesn't mean that soldered CPU and GPU will always burn, Clevo models are really good in particular, but you have to be careful anyway. Also P6**R* run a bit hotter because they are slim.
    In the end it is your wallet that decides what you want or what you can afford.

    Regarding selling your old laptop: I'm in exact same situation as you, a 7970m in my P150EM died this summer. I've ordered a new laptop recently, it's arriving soon, and mean while I'm considering selling it. It is worth 300 euro approximately, but I, myself, won't probably sell mine. I got attached to it so hard that it's near impossible. I loved it the moment I touched it first time, and it's been working great all this time and only noticed that it can't handle current games as good when my GPU died. Long story short, I'm still going to use my veteran, just for different tasks.
    So, it's up to you if you want to try to find a buyer.
     
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