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    Intel 6300 or Bigfoot 1103?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Aeyix, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Aeyix

    Aeyix Notebook Evangelist

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    While still waiting to make my order for a P150EM and deciding between the graphics card and processor. I have a simpler question that I hope you guys can help me with. I'm not sure which Wireless Networking card I should get. I was held bent on the 6300 earlier but I don't know if the 1103 is better.

    I currently live on a college campus so use the campus routers all the time when not in my room. So ideally, I'd like to get the best range, signal strength, and ideally best bandwidth too (so best overall connection). However, I would say range is most important just to be able to connect more often in the first place. Power draw is kind of important. I don't know if the difference between using the two cards on battery results in only a few minutes less battery life or 30min less battery life. If they are similar, doesn't matter. But if one card will reduce my battery life, I'd prefer the other. I'm on battery power 50% of the time when on campus (all depends on what building I'm in).

    My room kind of doesn't matter as far as connection goes. It's small enough that anything in my room can easily connect to my network. Plus, I only have a 10/100 N600 router right now so can't take full advantage of the wired or wireless speeds as of yet. I may sell it to someone this year and upgrade to a gigabit N900 router just because I stream stuff between devices all the time.

    So which wireless card to you recomend? Why do you recomend it? Thanks for the help!
     
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    if range is all you care about Intel beats Killer hands down on 2.4Ghz frequencies.
    If your on a budget Intel beats it once again hands down.
    If you want cool software, good 5.0Ghz frequency performance and less lagg spikes in both 2.4Ghz and 5.0Ghz frequencies then Killer is your card so yeah like i said on your other post check reviews to see what your needs are but like someone posted on your other post. You wont notice most of the differences in normal use so yeah its pretty much up to your needs.
     
  4. TrantaLocked

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    Killer and Intel seemed about the same in download speeds most of the time. Once you moved out of the room, Intel was faster. UDP Location 3 test was an anomaly, because the Killer performance IMPROVED at a greater distance with UDP. All other 2.4GHz results showed Intel handles distance better. Other than that, I am surprised by how much faster Killer can be in 5GHz situations.
     
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    im personally going with the intel card, i understand about being close to your router and blah blah blah, HOWEVER when i am in my room, i will be using my ethernet. the only time i would have wireless activated is when watching naughty videos (shame on me), logged on through my campus wireless, or friends place.
     
  6. Aeyix

    Aeyix Notebook Evangelist

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    Man this makes decision kind of hard. The campus will be 2.4GHz so I guess Intel should be what I go with. But, I was hoping to use the 5GHz in my room since almost all wifi in the building will be on 2.4GHz so I don't have to worry about any interferance. But, I do already run a few devices on 5GHz, so it might no be good to add my laptop to that mix. Hmmm....
     
  7. docrock

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    I went Intel for the sole reason that I couldn't get a solid timeline for the 1103 and was sick of waiting already for my 7970.
     
  8. teng247

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    I have the intel 6300 only due to the fact that xotic was out of stock. I was able to get the killer via ebay and thought hey why not test out both. So had the intel and while i was running D3 w/ skype, i would notice that sound on skype started to diminish while playing D3 and i got disconnected a few times for a few seconds. I have full bars as i was close to the router.

    Installed killer card the next day and never had a problem with what i experienced with the intel card. Again my testing had so many variables so i can only go off of what i tested, but to me it was worth it. You can still find the killer cards via ebay and install is a piece of cake

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
     
  9. namerof

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    Getting ready to order a big machine from Mythlogic. On the fence about these cards. Seems like a logical answer to me but here goes.
    Already have fast working netwok at home on cable connected 2.4 router with 7 devices cookin along.
    Spend most spare time gaming, but all single player (though Mass Effect 3 may change that).
    Other use of machine will be at work with long range 2.4 guest account.
    I really dislike flaky hardware that works like a beast till it crashes (not that the killer would but software running in the background that isn't doing any good would be taxing resources that might better be used elsewhere), and am somewhat partial to intel reliability.
    As you can tell I'm leaning towards the 6300, any comments before I pull the trigger? :)
     
  10. TrantaLocked

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    The Killer uploads way faster in almost all situations if that may be important for you.
     
  11. iaTa

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    Neither. Get an Atheros AR9380 from eBay for less than half the price.

    It's the same hardware as the Killer 1103 and mine is running beautifully.
     
  12. Ryan

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    Well I personally liked the software when I used it, and you can install just the Atheros drivers without installing the Killer software if you don't like the software.
     
  13. icehot

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    I went for the intel because I also wanted the bluetooth, so that's something else to consider...
     
  14. namerof

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    Point understood, what exactly does the software give you compared to the standard Intel suite?
    Also, didn't know bluetooth was still available after 3250, as per Myth config page?
     
  15. namerof

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    Delete please, double post ... :(
     
  16. Zymphad

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    Yep, I went with the 6235 for the bluetooth. Still dual band, and reliable. I've never been satisfied with Atheros, but maybe they are a lot better now.
     
  17. Roken911

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    I went with the 6300 from Intel for 2 reasons
    1)Price
    2)I don't care for lower pings in games when I already get good stable pings.

    Range is great, you'll be happy with either card to be honest

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk
     
  18. HTWingNut

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    I've used Intel and 6300 has great range and ping. For gaming I don't know that it makes a lick of difference except for perhaps twitch gaming. Even then Toms Hardware article notes:

    " While there are no hard and fast rules about ping time requirements in gaming, I'm tickled pink to jump on a server in the 50 ms range. Below that, it's really hard to tell a difference. Technical improvements simply cease to be relevant. And in all of our GaNE testing, only one spike from Cisco (in Location 3) ever exceeded 50 ms."
     
  19. Aeyix

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    I've made my decision. I'm going to do the Intel 6300. I doubt the difference is noticeable plus I need the range. Not to mention it is cheaper.
     
  20. Prasad

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    Stick to the standard Intel Centrino 2230-N Wireless card and save your $$$, I'd say. If you have special networking needs, opt for the Ultimate-N 6300, but I take it that doesn't have bluetooth(?). The Killer card is just extremely over-rated all around and truly isn't worth it. You'll just about never experience any real life gains in network performance/speed.
     
  21. egoistmusketeer

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    the killer is a piece of junk, I've got it and it breaks connection all of the time.
     
  22. iaTa

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    So you're saying one should spend extra $$$ on a networks card for it's flashy software, just to downgrade the driver and no more flashy software? 3 out of 3 reseller personnel I spoke to, along with a few other informed persons all seemed to have the general consensus that the Killer is bogus. Given my crappy connection, I'd have been the first to purchase it, were this not the case.
     
  24. iaTa

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    No not at all.

    If you look on the last page I suggest buying the Atheros AR5BHB112 (AR9380) for $28. That way you can have the great performance of the Atheros chipset and also keep the stock wireless/bluetooth card in case you need bluetooth.
     
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    Yeah. That makes sense, but that isn't offered as an option with Sager/Clevo, is it?
     
  26. iaTa

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    No that's true but it's incredibly easy to change the card yourself and those Atheros cards are available on your favourite auction site.
     
  27. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    So spend more, you say? Why not just stick with the basic Intel then, like I earlier stated?
     
  28. iaTa

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    No I'm saying there is no need to spend more than the $28? :confused:
     
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    lol I'm confused... :p
     
  30. awdsone

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    I'm using the stock card and I'm getting full bars about 50 yards from my router. 35 Mbps. Is there even a huge difference if you spend more?
     
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    The bars on the wireless icon in the system tray are terribly inaccurate.

    Try inSSIDer instead.
     
  32. Prasad

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    Not unless you have that crazy kind of internet connection to utilize it first. Higher priced Networks cards would at the most only very slightly decrease latency between your terminal and router.
     
  33. Blauwhelmpje

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    23 - 23 ^^
     
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    I seriously have no clue what you might have meant..
     
  35. Blauwhelmpje

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    not sure if you are serious. but if you are: this is a Poll with 2 options as answers so it should be pretty obvious.

    Meanwhilst the Bigfoot is winning by a noselength!
     
  36. hackness

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    I have both Intel 6300 (On my G73JW) and Bigfoot killer N1103 (On P150EM). If you do use streaming software with more than 2 users in your network, the killer software does help a lot when you want to throttle the streaming software, also if you do have torrent running, ping isn't affected much on the Killer N1103 (5 ms with no torrent/35ms with torrent) like the Intel 6300 did (5 ms with no torrent/55 ms with torrent). Plus it does a much better job on throttling the connection than the 3rd party tool Netlimiter 3 did (constant stuttering, like every 10 sec when watching a video) which I had to use with the Intel 6300, since I couldn't find a reliable one that's out there. So far, the killer software made those throttling software look pretty bad.

    Source: personal experience
     
  37. keifox

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    1103 is a beast, you can get very good signal with it. most of them are worried about signal strenght.