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    Intel Ivy bridge revealed!! woahh!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by acroedd, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    here is the link guys
    http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25119-intels-mobile-ivy-bridge-lineup-revealed

    1. first of all mainstream i7-3720QM has a TDP of just 45w! now tell me this is not an improvement!!! plus they are clocked at 2.6ghz instead of a mere 2.0 ghz!!!

    2 HD 4000 graphics has a core clock of 650mhz. can turbo upto 1250!

    this is awesome news for all optimus and amd switchable graphics fans as we know/ expect sager refresh to support them!

    3 now tell me all you pessimistic people , that ivy is no good??? ;)

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  2. b0b1man

    b0b1man Notebook Deity

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    Well, its not much of an improvement.

    Ive got 2760QM at 2.4Ghz (45W). This 3720QM is 2.6ghz (45W). 200mhz is not that much, I expected a lot more.
     
  3. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    you probably paid a premium to upgrade to 2760. you dont have to pay that anymore plus 200mhz, ill take that. you could use the better graphics for optimus too, I think I will wait till haswell since thats a new architecture or if they have good holiday deals in 2012 :)
     
  4. Ahmed_p800

    Ahmed_p800 Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, for me I have already ordered my laptop (Waiting now!)!
    And im happy with my CPU (2760QM)...

    One thing that would really make a difference for me, is emulation, for sure the higher the clock speed the better, but from my experience with C2D (my current laptop), the 2760QM would do just fine...

    That out of the way, Im excited about the Ivy Bridge mainly for one thing, LOW POWER...

    And even Ultra low power versions used in tables like Samsung slate 7:
    [​IMG]

    This uses i5-2467M (17 Watts)

    I imagine with Ivy, new tablets will be released which will have way powerful CPUs and with the new Intel 4000 GPU, it would be awesome experience on the go!

    Edit: Nice, the 17W line up include two CPUs, the i7-3667U (2-3GHz) and the i5-3427U (1.8-2.6GHz)... :) Im happy
     
  5. postman

    postman Notebook Guru

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    definitely an upgrade from the w860cu! cant wait to get p150em!
     
  6. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    Niceeeeeeee. I'm getting a 2012 Clevo P150 next year. Still can't decide for quad or i5 dual. I like the i7 dual but according to resellers, they can hardly get their hands on it. I don't crunch numbers or do editing stuffs. I like the i5 for its low tdp and heat. Meanwhile running on i7 720, in my daily usage, the i7 consistently runs at 15 watts (50* C). Would i5 result in better numbers ? I only game once in awhile (BF series and looking forward to GTA V)
     
  7. synce

    synce Notebook Consultant

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    The 2760 does cost a nice premium but you are getting nearly Ivy Bridge speed about half a year earlier, so that's a fair price to pay I think. Weren't some sites talking about putting quad i7's in ultrabooks with IB though? Did that fall through or is it Haswell I'm thinking of?
     
  8. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    This always comes up, but I'll say it here too- Ivy Bridge is not supposed to be a big performance increase for the processor. Sandy Bridge was the "tock" in Intel tick-tock; that is to say, the "new microarchitecture". Ivy Bridge is the "tick", which is just a die shrink. The "tick" never really introduces a revolutionary CPU or massive performance increases.

    Instead, you'll see better power efficiency and higher clocks (due to the better power efficiency). In Ivy Bridge in particular, Intel is focusing on much improved integrated graphics and better power efficiency.

    Haswell will be the next iteration after Ivy Bridge, and the time when you see a leap in power (like the jump from the older Nehalem/Westmere i7's to Sandy Bridge).

    In short, those looking for performance increases in the CPU with Ivy Bridge will be disappointed- it's just not what Intel is aiming for with that release.

    Intel Tick-Tock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  9. Blacky

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    Sandy Bridge wasn't a big increase either, testes for clock-on-clock showed only a 15% increase in performance.

    My impression is that Ivy sacrificed CPU performance for a better GPU, because the die is basically 30% smaller so there was plenty of room for higher clocks at the same price-point.
     
  10. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    what are you talking abt? sandy 15% increase over 1st gen?? it was much better with really good integrated graphics for optimus. Still excited over ivy, with less heat generated better cooling all that stuff. Ill be happy with 15-20% increase over current gen , plus they clock higher and higher, i rem 1st gen quad starting at 1.6ghz, now its 2.0ghz next gen is 2.6! that is huge!!! and thts just the basic i7quad!!!
     
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  12. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    sandy was tock cycle, so yes architech too. I did not know the 1st gen i series was 45nm. If you see price to price ratio then you will have a much higher % increase ;)
     
  13. dave1812

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    I'm happy you are so ecstatic, but I can't share your enthusiasm for a little bit of improvement in the specs. It's not really "write home about" news. seriously.

    oh, and "woahh" is actually "Whoa!" :)
     
  14. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    I wanted it to spell it wooaahh ;)
     
  15. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    I wanted to spell it wooaahh ;)
     
  16. BenWah

    BenWah Notebook Consultant

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    I want one of those 17 watt dual core processors, in a laptop with super high end GPU.
    Is that stupid? Probably... :)
     
  17. acroedd

    acroedd Notebook Evangelist

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    really stupi$ man! its like getting i7 ivy bridge extreme edition with 2gigs of ddr2 ram ;)
     
  18. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    It's nothing wrong with learning new things everyday. I do the same.
    When I joined this forum I didn't know much about laptops and computer hardware; only the basics.

    This forum is a great information node, where if you stick around you will learn a lot of stuff.
     
  19. impale953

    impale953 Notebook Geek

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    I remember Intel saying Ivy also comes with lower power consumption. Looking at these new quad with the same 45W TDP as Sandy, I'm guessing maybe the possible 35W TDP quad-core will come later. 35W quad is going to be so sweet on notebook.
     
  20. Aeyix

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    I'm starting to wonder which to do. I remember the massive clock speed jump from gen 1 core i to the gen 2 SB core i and thought it was just insane. I've been sitting on getting a new laptop or desktop. I keep wanting to wait till April to get a P150EM with a IB i7-3720QM, 8GB 1600 RAM (or 1866 if supported), and based off an earlier post a GTX 650M or 660M if the post was accurate that the 650M > 580M. But, I might be better off building a desktop and seeing if I can push my laptop for another year and see what Haswell has to offer plus by then Nvidia will be full into Kepler. But then again, in the tech world, your hardware becomes old news every 6 months. Heck, the leaked time table shows that Q4 will have a version considered greater than the Q2 2012 stuff. I bet just like SB, it will be a version refresh with on average 200MHz faster clock speeds. I can imagine an i7-3760QM with 2.8GHz clock (hypothetical). I can see it being a $200 upgrade vs people that bought the initial i7-2920XM with the 2.5GHz clock at a hefty $800 upgrade only to have that performance 1.5 years earlier.
     
  21. gwilled

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    Hehe, well said. I decided to buy now because I don't want to be tempted with the thought of waiting for Haswell. I'd rather miss out on a die shrink than a whole new shabang. Too bad the GPU releases aren't more synced, even out of shear happenstance, with Intel releases. That would make things easier and not stretch out the uncertainty process.

    I still hold out hope that the next-gen GPUs will be compatible with the current Sagers/Clevos. That ought to be a worthwhile and budget-concise upgrade come Q1 2013. :)
     
  22. dave1812

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    LOL! I kinda thought that might be your response! :)