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    Intel NICs for Clevos?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by darkarn, Jul 19, 2016.

  1. darkarn

    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    Random thought came when I was sorting out my computers recently (since one part of this was installing Intel NICs onto desktops): Are there any plans to use Intel NICs in Clevos?
     
  2. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    For the NIC that is integrated with the motherboard, I say it is with whatever vendor Clevo works with. I want to say of the last 3 or 4 generations I've owned have all been JMicron based ( but could be wrong ). Also, I think the P870DM comes with Killer NICs. Maybe others can list what other vendors they've seen with varying models.

    TBH, I've never thought about it as I've never have had a problem.

    I guess one could always add a USB network adapter, if they want to switch. But I don't know if any of this helps if you're looking at this from a Hackintosh point of view.
     
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  3. darkarn

    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    For this, I looking towards a non-Hackintosh point of view, more like a network performance point of view lol (I saw how some Intel NICs do way better than onboard NICs)
     
  4. Krowe

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    Well, for a consumer workload, it doesn't really matter who makes the NIC, as long as they don't start dropping packets and all.
     
  5. Prostar Computer

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    Because of limited real estate, we'll probably never see a NIC, per se. The onboard Intel Ethernet controller does fairly well, though. That's one of the cruxes with laptops: it's hard to outfit a small footprint with modular components otherwise befitting much larger circuit boards.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    It's a bit like hardware raid controllers.
     
  7. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    You can get the Intel wireless cards, but I don't think there are a lot of laptops that have their NICs though. I can't really think of any models in the last couple few years that maybe had one.
     
  8. Stooj

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    AFAIK, outside of some older ULV systems (where it was integrated in the PCH, but now USB is taking over that duty) you won't find Intel ethernet chipsets as they don't release schematics for their ethernet controllers. Without schematics and licensing, ODMs can't integrate it into their motherboards. This may change though, as Intel are pushing harder in the server space. Particularly the Broadwell D series all have integrated 10Gbit ethernet that is up to the ODMs to implement as well as new X520 based integrated designs (rather than PCIE).

    The current most common ones are offered by Qualcomm/Atheros and Realtek as they have always allowed motherboard integration.
     
  9. darkarn

    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm I see, I noticed some motherboards for DIY desktop PCs having them too though; was hoping laptops will follow the trend
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

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    They have a lot more space to work with.
     
  11. darkarn

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    Ah I see, I thought all NICs use the same amount of physical space...
     
  12. Prostar Computer

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    If you're talking about expansion cards, then yes: they do tend to follow general guidelines for dimensions. I think what Meaker meant was that the boards for the DIY desktop PCs you mentioned have more space on them than laptop boards.
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    Even on the pcb itself package sizes and power consumption vary a lot.
     
  14. darkarn

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    Yeah, as in before making this thread, I was under the impression that laptop onboard NICs and desktop onboard NICs are using the same components and therefore have same traits (e.g. shape, size)
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Cost is also a factor, intel charge a fair bit more to use their stuff, a cost which is not justified for most users.
     
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    Hmm, come to think of it, now I see why these Intel NICs cost way more than other brands...