Intel's Upcoming Huron River platform

Oh and lets not forget the fact that they are running on Dx9, so really you can't even come close to comparing pc and console gaming.

 

Most console exclusive games however are 1080P because graphic is always a big selling point when it comes to exclusive games. They do this so fanboys can brag about their consoles.

 

Is there any chance we get the sandy bridge mobile cpus this year ?

 

Desktop Sandy Bridge might become available this December. Mobile Sandy Bridge will probably become available in February next year, maybe even earlier in late January. But I would be surprised if it is sooner than that, although not impossible.

 

Do you think it'd be worth waiting another two or three months for Sandy Bridge? Both price and performance wise. New tech keeps coming, and if I keep waiting for the better ones, I would never buy anything lol

 

Depends what CPU you want to buy. If you want to buy a dual core then don't wait. If you want to buy a quad then you should definitely wait.

 

Crap, late january/february... I don't know what to do, i'm inclined to waiting, but my laptop is suppose to be bought in november. From then to sandy bridge is at least 2 more months.

Well, lets see if its worth it !

Question, is this sandy bridge cpu gonna have quad chanell memory controller ?
If so, that will mean each sandy bridge mobile motherboard will have to have 4 dimm slots.
That will mean cheap 8 gb ram in quad chanell, expensive 16gb ram in quad chanell, and future posibility to upgrade to 32gb ram quad chanell when 8gb dimms will be widely available.
This alone would be for me a reason to wait for sandy bridge.
Question now, will it be so ?

 

And why exactly would you need 32GB RAM???A fresh win7 install uses less than 1GB, add some software- antivirus, antispyware, etc. and it goes to about 1.5GB so I don't see a reason why a home/gamer/multimedia user would need more than 4GB except to impress some blond girl at school...

 

From what i've read on anandtech regarding sandy bridge, on the desktop chips theres gonna be a P67 and a H67 chip.
These are the chips supposed to be on the motherboards.
The P67 chip supports dual external GPUs (like SLI or Crossfire) but you wont be able to take advantage of the integrated GPU in the CPU.
The H67 chip will not support dual external GPUs, but you will be able to use the integrated GPU in the CPU.

I'm guessing the integrated GPU in the CPU is supposed to be used when there are no graphics intesive programs running.
While this makes sense in a laptop thus decreasing consumption, i don't know why such a thing even exists in a desktop that is permanently connected to the wall. The only thing that will happen is that the external GPU will not be used at all. And since modern card, like the radeon 5000 desktop series, idle at 15-20w (compared to previous generation that idled at 80-90), the saving in power is gonna be minimal.

I'm guessing that with the mobile chips we will get similar treatment. So bottomline is, if you want dual GPUs in laptop (SLI or Crossfire) you won't be able to use the integrated GPU in the CPU, and you will be stuck with idle consumption of the SLI or Crossfire system, wich will be definetly bigger than that of the GPU from the CPU.

If you will use a single external GPU, as most laptops do, that you could take advantage of the integrated GPU in the CPU, and this way battery life will increase.

But that again, this is just an assumption as we do not have clear data about the mobile chips, and maybe the mobile chips will both be able to take advantage of the integrated GPU.

Considering the announcements, i'm guessing we could see score of 4000 3dmarks 2006 from the integrated GPUs wich could be awsome. With only a cpu one could have decent graphics performance.

 

Here it is:

 

That's a very good find. +rep.

I doubt the integrated GPU will score 4000, more like 2000-3000.

No, you don't need 32 GB of RAM unless you are going to run multiple virtual machines on your laptop, but even then 16GB ought to be enough. If you really want to be future proof then buy 8 GB.

 

It WILL score 4000, because the GPU in the arrandale cpus score 2000 points give or take, and they said the GPU in the SB CPU will be double than that.

Now there's another problem since there are gonna be 2 version of the GPU.
One version has one GPU and the other will have 2 GPUs. What's the point or logic behind that is beyond me.
If the 4000 points are gonna be for the single GPU, than the double one will score better.
But if the 4000 points are for the double GPU, than the single one might perform according to your expectations (2000 to 3000).

We have to wait and see.
What i want is the ability to use the on die GPU even if i have a SLI or crossfire laptop.
And i want to know if sandy bridge is quad chanell.

And regarding the ram, i always say, the more, the merrier (expression from robin hood and his MERRY man).
More ram NEVER hurts. EVER.

 

It does hurt your wallet though.

 

IF you have the money.

And speaking of ram, can anyone clear the info:
Is sandy bridge quad chanell or not ?

Later Edit: I guess not...

until we will see a clevo chasis with the desktop Patsburg.

This would be the platform to use for SLI or Crossfire in a x7200 succesor.
This succeosor will have 8 core cpu (the socket lga 2011 chipset x68 is gonna come with will initially launch with 4core and 6 core cpu, and a 8 core cpu will come after that, probably and most likely when intel will switch to 20/22nm process similar to the way we got the 980x on 32nm with 6 core versus the rest of nehalems with 4 cores on 45nm), 32gb maximum ram and dual GPU each with full 16 lanes. This WILL be the x68 chipset and will also bring - as expected - sata 3. AMAZING !

And since this will launch in q3 2011 expect this succesor to arrive in q4 2011-q2 2012. Just in time before the end of the world.

Cheers !

 

I have some great news, it looks like Sandy Bridge will have native USB 3.0 support!

Sandy Bridge to get USB 3.0 support

 

USB 3 is sweet news.

 

Battery life is much better! Check this out:
Sandy Bridge battery life comparable to Calpella

4-5 hours of battery life for the quads.

 

Does make me want it more and more. Too bad I don't think I can use it in x7200.

 

Tech is around now that will make Battery life issues a thing of the past, it just hasn't hit the market yet.

It will make cell phones last for weeks and laptops last for days. The future is looking good for battery life.

http://news.discovery.com/tech/super-capacitor-power-energy.html

And there is a competing science that also achieves the same results of weeks of battery life, I just can't find the press release.

 

I wouldn't say this is tech that is around now. The article states "if commercialized" which means they haven't actually figured out how to make it commercially, in other words in a lab they can make these, but its very expensive. They still need to figure out how to make these cheap, also there is the acceptance factor. I don't think manufactures are just going to dump batteries overnight for these, it will take some time. Maybe a few years down the road we may start to see them in a limited fashion.

 

Talking about PCI-Express 3.0, the specifications are finally out: PCI-SIG Publishes the PCI Express 3.0 Specification - Softpedia

And looks like 2011 is the year when it will become available in products. This might also mean a revision of the MXM standard. Probably in the second half of 2011 or early 2012. Who knows...

 

New standard, new cards to go with it. We'll see when these will come out.

 

Although it seemed that Sandy Bridge was going to be a major arhitecturer change, preliminary benchmarks say otherwise:
Sandy Bridge Reviewed, Deemed Faster than Lynnfield - Softpedia

Keeping all things equal, it looks like the architecture itself only provides between 5% to 10% performance increase with the most increase in StarCraft 2 (25%).
So the biggest progress will actually come from the higher clocks that Sandy Bridge CPUs have, which is due to the migration from the 45nm production node to the 32nm one.

In conclusion, Mobile Sandy Bridge dual cores will only be slightly (10%) faster than current Arrandales, maybe a bit more due to the GPU going 32nm (opposed to 45nm as it is now).

However, the quad-cores will probably be a noticeable step forward.

 

LOL @ the Hype. I'll enjoy my i7 980X for now.

http://blog.collegehumor.com/post/1661523993/early-adopters-through-history-fire-was-the

 

Yap, a core i7 950 is way more than enough. And i will be able to go to 32nm when the 970 980x 990x is gonna be more sensibly priced.

 

Huron River is now official, enjoy:
Intel Core 2011 processor details - Engadget Galleries

 

"What is more interesting is that the wireless module will also have integrated bluetooth capabilities."

not very interesting for ,many. this means manufacturers will save some bucks not adding integrated bluetooth since wifi cards will have it. bad news because if you want to change your wifi card you can lose your bluetooth capabilities.

also any news on the bluetooth version intel will support? 3.0 hopefully?

 

Yea the intel wireless 6230 is the 6200 + BT 3.0 and is out now
The intel wireless 1030 is the 1000 + BT 3.0 and should be out in Feb.

There is no 6330 on the map however.