Intending to buy a NP9370

Hi guys,

I've been intending to buy an AW for a long time but the crazy prices drove me here. Right now, I want an NP9370 but I need your opinions on certain questions I have in mind:

1. How does GTX 670m SLIs compare with the other graphics cards? I did some research and went to Computer Games on Laptop Graphic Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech
but did not turn up any findings on 670m SLI

2. xoticpc seems to be the cheapest option thus far, however the discount does not seem to stack (free shipping + 3% off). Has this always been the case?

3. Any other opinions on the NP9370 and its build will be greatly appreciated!

p.s. Will be intending to play Max Payne 3, Skyrim, Starcraft 2, Darksiders and Diablo 3

 

Yes, im also looking at this laptop and interested to know whats the feedback on it... anyone has one already? maybe anyone with GTX680 in SLI?

would plan to cinfigure it with 32GB 1600Mhz Ram (4x8GB) / 3920XM ES cpu / GTX680 SLI etc etc

 

But there is the 675M sli, and it looks like it loses to a single 7970M (no 3dmark scores though). I'd say go with one 7970M and leave the option open for a 7970M crossfire.

 

We havent seen 670M SLI scores but with the 7970M/680M averaging double a single 670M, the SLI 670M will be about equal to one 7970M/680M. I agree with Montage about getting the 7970M and leaving room for possibly adding a second one in the future, or just get two now

Yes we've always had the rule about stacking discounts. You can use them both but we do have to do 2% w/ free shipping
The NP9370 should be able to handle all those games you mentioned with no problem.

 

How would the 7970M do with games as far as issues others are having with it?
Thinking of one gpu with adding one down the row.
Wondering if one 680m would be safer but cost more.

 

when are you getting one of those machines for sale?
I mean real physical stock, and do you by any chance test out the system with benchmarks and do maximum visual inspection and extra MAXIMUM level quality check to save hassle for a customer complaining about system imperfections?

Im tempted to know if these systems will cool proper enough on extended runs like 24h nonstop with 3920xm cpu and in example 680 sli
thanks

 

Dual 670M has the same performance as one 680M. But one 680M vga card give you room for future upgrade.

I will only recommend you to add a SSD to make it faster.

Good Luck!

 

There are no Enduro issues on NP9370 (it doesn't use switchable graphics). The 7970M is the obvious choice.

 

The NP9370 doesnt have Enduro and thats where the issues are coming from. There should be no problems here.

The ETA for the with Nvidia cards is mid this month, early Oct for AMD 7970M. Yes a Burn in is standard with all computers and all will have at least two techs do a visual inspection Quality Assurance before they ship out.

They should have no problems with cooling as Sager does a great job with this already, but until they are physically in stock and tests can be ran we wont know temps.

 

very well, one more question, do you do such inspection on any laptop you sell without exceptions or just upon buyers request? if you see my feedback in AW M18X forum you probably know where im coming from with my questions

 

The inspection is done by Sager. Xotic only does work if you order special custom work that only they offer. If you go to sager's website, configuration, whatever you see there that Xotic offers, Sager will do. It will ship direct from Sager to you in that case. If you order Xotic exclusiveoffers, it ships to Xotic, then to you.

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Hey guys, all these information has been very helpful ^^.
Alright, now I'm interested in a single 680m then, leaving the other slot for future use.
However, I have a few more questions on this respect.
1. Where can I find a 680m? Can't seem to find any place selling laptop graphics.
2. So how do I upgrade it into an SLI with a second 680m? I pop it in and it will work right out the box?

Thanks again!

 

Ask the different resellers. Maybe they can provide you with a 680M for a special prize

 

What're the first things to do with my Sager once it's out the box?
What drivers to install?
What updates to perform?
Definitely getting google chrome and other awesome stuff up.

 

I would say:

• Inspect visually for any transportation / manufacturing / assembly defects
• check keyboard and every button of it
• check touchpad buttons
• check LCD screen surface for scratches or damages
• power up system and watch LCD for dead pixels if there would be any you can find
• try open/close CDROM, try read disc while in OS environment
• check audio playback see if speakers operate and try select maximum laptops volume to check for audio distortions
• check USB ports / LAN port / HDMI port / DVI port for functionality/defects
• Try your fingerprint reader try activate finger-reader password feature
• Check webcam/microphones
• install throttlestop and check for idle/load temperatures of CPU/GPU
• ______________
• USE IT if all goes 100%

softwares needless to say - on your own preference

 

How is it that the NP9370 doesn't have the Enduro problem? Also, does that mean that NP9170 still has (or does not have) that same problem? I am hesitating taking the 7970 because of this :S

 

Because it does not support integrated graphics.

 

it might
it may support integrated graphics without SLI/CF

 

I chatted with someone from sager about this very subject, and in point of fact, the "single" 7970 WILL have enduro, but crossfire will not.

 

There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.

Clevo... Clevo... Clevo... tsk... tsk... tsk...

 

Its ok, should see a fix soon anyways right? first big update in Oct, finished by year end?
Also, i wonder if there will be manual switching like AW?

 

THere should be fixes rolling out soon for Enduro, but you will know by the time the lappy is order ready anyway. So good news is, you do not have to make the video card call yet, sit back and wait for AMD to show fixes, or some progress.

Then when the time for you to order is here, you can make the most informed choice possible.

 

The NP9370 does not use Enduro its dedicated gpu only so no issues with integrated graphics.

 

LOL i pre-ordered mine, it should be here soon. Eurocom's public release date was September 1st. Mine has the 7970m. I have not seen a single GPU bench for this machine.

 

The dual-gpu config won't have the Enduro issue, but will the single gpu setups? I would maybe hold off until there is a confirmation of that. Congrats though, ill be purchasing the same unit from Eurocom as soon as my school funds arrive

 

It does not have switchable graphics.

 

Not sure how truthfully this post should be taken, but why lie? If this user could elaborate, or if maybe a reseller could confirm, I will shut up

 

I dont think its a lie. It is not possible for the iGPU to be integrated with the SLI/CF, so its very possible that they skipped switchable graphics altogether as "power saving" is not a feature of this beast. My next big question is if a 7970m/680m from a 9170EM would be compatible with the 370EM... that video review said that the cards were a "new" design. I am guessing to remove the hardware needed for Enduro/Optimus.

 

Ya I heard that in the video too. I think the Enduro issue was caused by the dedicated unit being routed through the iGP for everything(on the 150/170em), and given that this is a desktop replacement with little need for battery saving, maybe these new(?) 7970m's are designed differently. Would make sense, and I know that a few resellers confirmed earlier there is no Enduro, but have they physically played with a single 7970m setup and observed this? Im currently messaging back and forth with Eurocom, ill see if I can get an answer from them.

 

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There ya go chief.

Call for yourself.

I called the day they were announced because I was looking for an alternative to the m17x. I was NOT looking for crossfire or sli, so I only wanted a single card. When I asked about enduro, the guy I talked to said the single card variant will have enduro, while the crossfire will not.

 

why would a rig with only one graphics adapter have switchable graphics? you should call him back and ask him that as a followup.

 

Doesn't the P150/170 have switchable graphics w/ just a single GPU?

 

technically the HD 4000 graphics could be construed as a graphics adapter leaving the 150/170 with two graphics adapters. that's why i didn't say GPU.

 

I tried to reaffirm what I said earlier, but hit a dead end.

It seems that even sager doesn't know now.

I emailed earlier and got and email reply that it will not have enduro, but on a phone call to them, it was stated that it will have enduro.

In short...we'll have to wait and see.

 

The Eurocom rep im messaging also said the 9370/370em doesn't have Enduro capability, was in regards to the Xfire 7970m setup im ordering though. Just doesn't make sense for this kind of laptop to have a feature like that.

 

Have you thought of going with the Sager NP9170 and ordering it with the 680m. Comes out cheaper than the 9370 in costs

 

I think you miss the point of the 370EM, they are in different leagues altogether. The 370EM is a SLI/CF ready desktop replacement powerhouse, where the 170EM is a portable gaming laptop.
I have a basic laptop with a long battery life, I want a powerful computer that I can move locations easily, I could get a 170EM, sure i would save a few hundred... but I will be stuck with a single card and forced to have switchable graphics, with a 370EM I can add a second card when/if I want.
Plus the sound quality is said to be better

 

Point taken on "graphics adapter" vs. iGPU/dGPU.

Getting back to two graphics adapters, the P370EM will also come with two graphics adapters, as it will use the same mobile CPU as the 150/170.

 

It has been confirmed the P370EM neither supports Enduro nor Optimus - http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...evo-p270wm-owners-lounge-187.html#post8841844

Let's put that issue to rest.