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    Is it worth to buy a laptop with GTX 280M?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by conandoyle, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. conandoyle

    conandoyle Newbie

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    GTX 280M is quite different from GTX 280.
    its core is as same as 9800GTX ~~lol
    should I wait for the next generation????????????
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    the GTX 280M is still the fastest gaming notebook card around.

    you can wait for the next generation of cards, but you might just wait forever since there will always be something newer and faster on the horizon.

    just buy it when you need it. :)
     
  3. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    I agree with Gophn, technology changes at a massively fast pace, so, being on the top edge is a short experience.

    The GTX 280m is a really good card for the money.
     
  4. Johnksss

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    what up aeris! how ya been?
    hows that system coming along?

    op
    i 3rd that
     
  5. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    It seem like every 6 months there a new cpu or gpu.
     
  6. Aeris

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    Not much, I have been alright, I took quite a break from Overclocking, Benchmarking and Forums altogether and spent some time on actual gaming.

    It is going alright, I have not purchased any of the parts yet, I am waiting to see how does GT300 balance out on price.

    I decided that I won't really overclock my system, and rather, I will specialize on optimizing and creating a good cooling solution for it, so, I am going to buy the much less expensive, Core i7 920 and clock it to 3.33 GHz (Max. speed that the processor can hold without taking any damage from overclocking), but I will get whatever is the strongest SLi + PhysX (Hopefully 3-4 GTX 385's or 2-3 GTX 395's and a GTX 385 or 395 for PhysX) combo when GT300 is out.

    I could not agree no more with you, technology is advancing really, really fast.
     
  7. Megacharge

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    Yeah it's advancing surprisingly fast, faster than it used to, perhaps they know something we don't.
     
  8. Johnksss

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    i hear ya there....i took a little break from it on the laptop and started up on the desktop...
    x58 classified
    2 gtx295's
    1000 corsair
    cool master v8 cpu cooler
    ocz blade 2000 mhz ddr3 ram 6 gb
    ocz vertex 120gb & 1 samsung tb drive.


    testing things out as we speak...

    they had no word on the gt3 series...so i grabed 295's for the time being...
     
  9. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    Yeah, Moore's Law will soon not be able to keep up with the speed of technology.

    Very nice rig, john, a question, is the X58 Classified really limited edition?, or will it stay until, let's say, Spring 2010?
     
  10. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    With chips getting smaller. The faster they are getting. I think in a few years we will hit a few bumps in the road. Like when Intel p4 hit the 4ghz mark and could not go higher. I think it will happen with gpus
    I think SLI might be the Next Dual Core chips. Basicly two gpu built into one gpu chip. Right now it like the 1990s when having two CPU in one motherboard.

    Just a idea.
     
  11. Johnksss

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    they just came out with the limited edition if im not mistaken.
    the classified is a different model..but im no expert...lol...yet
     
  12. Aeris

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    Yeah, then all of sudden, Intel comes with the so-promised Intel Pentium IV, a Single Core processor that runs at 300 GHz... Hah.

    True, actual Dual Core GPU's would be awesome, less power consumption and more power overall.

    Ah, alright then, I guess that I won't really have to worry.
     
  13. Johnksss

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    these boards are really nice though...i like it better than my gigabyte board i had.
     
  14. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    Alright then, man, I guess that the board powering my computer will be an EVGA X58 Classified, I cannot wait to play games on it, basically, I am revamping my entire computer room into a Media Center / Playroom.
     
  15. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    I just looking at dual core gpu would be killer for Laptops. One more step to being the same speed as a desktop. Or think about size a 15.4 inch laptop that has two gpus and 1gb of ram. Or for 17 Inch laptop with 2 dual core gpus 2gb of ram. With some games you get what 180% in grapics power.

    haha I am just tossing ideas.
     
  16. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    And some really nice ideas, who knows, that might be what Nvidia and ATI are cooking right now, hopefully it won't be too long until that we see Dual Core GPU's in laptops.
     
  17. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    I might be wrong, but from what I know, the idea of multi-core is already implemented in a way. In current GPUs, the shaders are grouped in clusters, in the case of Nvidia these are usually clusters of 16 shaders. But I don't know more than this, sorry

    Here is an example showing that: http://3dimensionaljigsaw.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/gtx-280-vs-penryn.jpg

    A 280 GTX has 240 shaders grouped in clusters of 24 as the picture shows.
     
  18. Aeris

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    That information is right!

    What we are talking about, however, is, instead of making Dual GPU cards sandwiched (GTX 295, 9800 GX2, 4870 X2, 4850 X2, 4890 X2, 3870 X2), put both cards' chipsets into a single PCB, would not that be awesome?
     
  19. AtolSammeek

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    Take a look at a Quad core cpu and then look at the geforce 280s. What I am thinking is if where they take two gefore 280s or what ever chip at the time and make it run as SLI or Crossfire. What you get is 30% to 40%. total 120% to 140% faster. That right now.

    By intergrading the two sli gpu on one chip with sli or crossfire. The crossfire or sli is the same speed as the gpu. Which could give the users 20% to 40% faster. We might see 150% to 180% on one dual sli gpu.

    Dual sli gpu would have 2 gpus on one die and with intergraded sli or crossfire.

    Sorry if I sound confuseing.
     
  20. Johnksss

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    all that will happen ...right after they finish trying to figure out how to make it work... from the last ufo they found...and im not kidding either. :)
     
  21. Aeris

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    Mmmh, I wonder if Alienware is related to this, somehow, to the Bomb Shelter!
     
  22. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    I have both alienware and Clevo laptops.

    I would guess johnksss is in Santa Clerita? South of me.

    Na a post earlier just gave me the idea. I am wondering why not haha.
     
  23. Johnksss

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    me too...


    nope...orange county...
     
  24. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Single PCB? You mean this:

    "Last but not least, EVGA has finally revealed its single-PCB version of the popular Geforce GTX 295. The company is calling this model the CO-OP Edition. No specific details have been mentioned as of yet, other than the fact that there will also be a Hydro Copper edition when it launches very soon. The specifications should be the same as the current GTX 295 models as given by Nvidia, which are a 576Mhz core speed, 1242MHz shaders, and 1998MHz memory." - Fudzilla
    http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14009/1/

    http://vr-zone.com/articles/evga-showcases-p55-boards--computex/7128.html?doc=7128
     
  25. Johnksss

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    that's out now...i was going to switch to it, but evga said it was basically the same as the dual board.....i still have 85 days to stepup should that single board prove to be better....
     
  26. AtolSammeek

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    That where I was born Orange county. I am in Frazier Park now.

    No alienware has nothing to do with the idea. I was just thinking how to drop heat and make games run faster. Then thinking about CPUs and Quad core and went why dont they do sli in dual core or quad gpu.

    Beleave me if I could I would of gone with Clevo becuse they been stable. I sent my laptop in the 3 time they are sending it back untel they get the part which is on backorder. Then I have to send it back in.
     
  27. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    If you haven't bought yet make sure you get a D0 920, overclock better than C0 and with less voltage so less heat as well. You can take a 920 way higher than 3.3GHz without damaging it, we regularly sell systems on air with a 920 at 3.6-3.8GHz and on water up to 4.3GHz. As long as you have ample cooling and a block on the chipset you won't do any damage to the CPU or motherboard or shorten the life of the components.

    On the single PCB 295 every NVIDIA board company will have them available to buy reasonably soon. I don't think the ones EVGA had at Computex were live cards but the main point of them is that a single PCB solution will bring manufacturing costs down which may be related to the lowering price of the 4870 X2. Water blocks for the single PCB solution should also be cheaper mainly because you won't have to mill 2 slabs of copper for each block :) Tbh I would buy a 295 over a 4870 X2 any day even if they are cheaper.
     
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    tis is true..im running mine at 4.2 ghz with no problems on air..temps are like 28 to 32 when idle.
     
  29. Aeris

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    I was just joking about the comment that john said about alien technology found from UFO's put into graphics cards.

    My Sager NP9262 is still running strong, but, after 1 year, it has begun to show its age already, the right-front speaker's net thingo fell off and I had to paste it back on.

    That sounds good, thank for the information, Neil, I guess that I will leave mine at 4.2 - 4.3 GHz, it won't be no problem after all, the Pump + Reservoir + Radiator combo I am getting has up to 2,000 Watts of Heat Dissipation.

    That sounds nice, I hope that when the GTX 395 32nm comes out, it will be a Single PCB better than a Dual PCB card, that would help me to cool the system down greatly and help me to put up with the power bills.

    Nice speed and temps for air!, john.
     
  30. Blacky

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    I made a mistake in my post in the other thread, it won't be 32nm but 28nm. :)
     
  31. Aeris

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    28nm?! You just made my day, Blacky, even better for me, I have some trouble putting up with power bills, thanks for the clarification, Blacky.