Is the 7970M worth it?

Someone should ask aussie reseller LBO which vram the Clevo 7970m has


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the clevo cards got samsung vram as far as i know. hynix modules on dell cards.

 

Hello

I found this website stating a comparison between 7970m and GTX 675m. I dunno if these are real.

AMD Radeon HD 7970M Vs NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M

 

7970m is almost 580m/675m SLI

 

yes its around that ballpark, the gpu result is usually close to 6k in 3dmark11

 

I think the ATI 7970M is the clear victor and choice here, for a laptop at that price point..

 

Is there much of a difference between the two modules? I remember reading one of Slickdude's posts saying that the Dell 7970m cards have slightly faster vram.

 

It's similar to how a lot of guys were considered " the fastest in the world", before Usain Bolt started moonwalking across finish lines against them.

A paradigm shift changes your view of things.

 

my HD5870m still is very capable of running most games ultra setting with at least 30 fps and high in most if not all games at 40fps+ and its already 2 years old now.
good investment i say, and its gonna be just the case for 7970 if anyone ask me.
the question for me now is whether if its "worth it" to upgrade while my current gpu is still more than capable.

 

not faster, just that hynix modules have been known to possess slightly better OC potential

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+rep, learn something everyday . I thought it has to do with vBios ? Does overvolting help OC mainly clock and partially vram ?

 

well yeah, u use the settings in the vBios in order to realize the OC of core, shaders and vram. as far as im aware overvolting is always related to the gpu core/shaders only and does not include the vRam. thx for the rep

 

I seriously just want my laptop to come. Eurocom is lagging on me and originally said it would be here by the 15th of May. Now they are saying 20th. Pretty freaking lame. I want my 7970m...

 

ah well, other people arent getting their 7970M any sooner than us, well still be ahead of most, if thats any consolation

 

Bro I'm not buying from Eurocom, but it seems that the delay is general, I was informed that I should be getting this week, but now that won't happen(there was a delay). I'll be happy if it arrives next week.
Anyone else has info on delivery for 7970M???

 

All resellers said "End of May", most likely 20-25th of May.
Eurocom however said something different...

 

What are your thoughts about the Hp ENVY 17 with the 7970m? I've decided to turn to the dark side and abandon nvidia as they have caused me nothing but hassle (damn sli bull). What ivy-model is best pared with a card like this? thanks

 

I am going from a HP Envy17 3D to a Sager because of overheating issues. My Envy gets WAY to hot to game on...it is running a 5850 that is underclocked by HP as a bandaid to keep it running cool.

HP and gaming dont mix in my experience.

 

+1! HP is horrible at heat management and their cooling systems are for no gamer!

 

consumer crap yes, strangely their business class seems BEST for cooling

 

Lol- nvm then. just ordered a p150em instead

Edit: the eta for my 7970m was set to early june

 

Good one haha HP isn't worthy anymore

 

Good call, and congrats!

 

The Envy 17 is only coming with the 7850M, and no 7970M build is scheduled to happen, ever.

 

I'm really frustrated by the lack of information concerning when these laptops featuring the 7970m are going to be done, and I'm even more frustrated by the way it's being handled. I don't particularly feel like I'm being treated all that honestly or forthright as a consumer. I really like xoticpc and have heard a lot of good things about them, and wanted to do my business with them, so this depresses me.

I spoke to a representative from Dell/Alienware briefly, and if I were to order a M17x now with the 7970m (which they have in stock, apparently) the finished laptop would be shipping approximately on May 24th. If xoticpc cannot give me *any* kind of ETA for my laptop (it doesn't even have to beat Alienware's) then I'm canceling my order. I can't deal with this - I'm fine waiting for a laptop, but I at least need an estimate of when I'll be getting it to work with, even if that estimate is subject to change. I *need* that information because of what I do for a living and the way my life is structured. It's just unacceptable to leave things this vague.

 

I think Xotic has to wait for Sager to implement the 7970m before they can do anything and the only info they have from Sager is sometime in May. I don't think it's Xotic's fault. If they had the info they'd tell you.

 

But they got the customer right. Everyone else was a bit surprised about the early Eurocom 7970M arrival claims, and now we know why, it wasn't going to happen.

 

What if you were in their shoes, would you lie and make up a date you're not sure of?

They're not in control of when it comes and they don't know when.
Better keep their integrity, be honest and say they can't make a good guess.

It's not good to make promises you can't keep.

 

I already feel misled, given that when I initially made the order I had no clue that the 7970m was backordered. I saw a big banner on their front page advertising the new SAGER NP9170 and it had "AMD RADEON 7970" in big, bright red capital letters. Seeing it there, and then seeing it as an option right next to the other GPUs in the order form, I naturally assumed this meant they... y'know... had that particular GPU for sale.

Now, I fully admit this is my fault. I didn't read the entire line on the order form initially and missed the three tiny words in parentheses that said "(eta: late may)" at the very end. Again, my fault entirely. But I can't help but feel misled, given the advertising, and the fact that while I was making my order there was also information that stated that the laptop would be built and shipped in 7-13 days. Again, my fault - I missed those three words and didn't realize at the time that this did not apply to me, and that my laptop would actually take a month at the very least before it would even start to be built.

So, I do understand xoticpc's position. And I get that much of this is my fault. But it's really difficult not to feel extremely frustrated at them, and the way that this situation has been handled. If they don't know when they're going to have a certain option available, perhaps they should not prominently advertise that product in bright letters on their front page. Or if they do, perhaps they should make the circumstances more clear for potential buyers, so they know what they're getting themselves into.

I feel like I was directly deceived and my money taken from me because this company knowingly made assurances that they had no intention of keeping. One more time - I know that it's my fault for not reading the fine print, but still.

The other thing that bothers may is how vague they are about the "late may" estimation. Is that when the GPUs are supposed to arrive? Or is that when the laptop with the GPUs are expected to ship? Is it going to take even longer due to the delay in receiving them? Are there many laptops on backorder, meaning I could be behind dozens of people in line? This is all information they could provide me with (and information that I have asked about) and yet I have received none of it whatsoever. It's not a very good feeling. And as I said, it's a shame, because I want to spend money with this company and have heard very good things about them, by and large. It honestly depresses me, how poorly this situation is being handled.

 

They've given literally all the information they have to give by saying late May (which is when they expect to start shipping them to customers as far as I know). You admit that it's your fault for not reading the ETA " but still" it's their fault somehow? Sorry, but I don't think you've got a case here and it doesn't seem they can handle it any better than they have been. I think you might be being a bit unreasonable here.

Also, your money was taken? You already paid? Usually they don't charge until your item is being built as far as I know.

 

Yes, I admit it was my fault for not reading the fine print. But I'm still frustrated because I did not feel that they communicated the pre-order status of the 7970M clearly at all, for reasons that I detailed quite comprehensively in my post. They advertised the 7970M very prominently on their main page, giving no indication that it was on pre-order.

They also had the 7970m as a normal option next to the 670m and 675m on the order form - And yes, they did put "eta: late may" but it was directly following stuff like "2048MB VRAM GDDR5 DX11" that I never read, because I already know the background specs of the GPUs in question. When I was setting up and purchasing the laptop, I sincerely did not expect the pre-order status of the GPU (and by extension my entire order) to be located in that one single place, and only in that one place. I also didn't expect the pre-order status to not be noted on the receipt, invoice, or in any communication I received from xoticpc in the week following my order. All I was told by xoticpc about my laptop's ETA was that it would take 7-13 days to build, and then it would be shipped. Which was obviously false.

Then I noticed the (ETA: late may) thing, asked them about it on the phone, and my laptop was promptly bumped back from phase 2 to phase 1 in its status. Two weeks after I had already ordered it. So, yes, I was inattentive. But I don't think it's unreasonable for me to feel misled, as well as annoyed and upset by these circumstances.

And yes, they have my money, because I paid via wire transfer in order to receive the cash discount.

 

Please let's not have another destructive discussion/argument/comment about how a reseller is doing business with you.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/661848-name-shame-vs-peer-moderation.html

I'm certain that there is ABSOLUTELY no popular reseller out there charges your CC when one or more upgrades are still not available. And if you pay via cash, you should consult with them privately and see what they can accommodate for you, not here.

From XoticPC - AMD Radeon HD 7970M (2048MB) GDDR5 DX11 [User Upgradeable] (ETA: Late May)

 

Alright, I'll stop. I'm very aware of what you quoted from xoticpc, and discuss it comprehensively in the post directly above yours. And I absolutely admit my own inattentiveness, and that the responsibility for not noticing that is on my shoulders. Maybe if the "(ETA: Late May)" were bolded and underlined on the order form, like it is in your post, I would have noticed it myself originally. *shrug*.

But I don't believe I'm unreasonable, and I don't think I'm being particularly accusatory. I like xoticpc, I think they do a great job by and large, and I want to do business with them. I'm just upset by these circumstances, and thought it was fair to voice those feelings in a calm, cogent manner. Like I've been doing.