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    Is the Sager NP6165's CPU/graphics card upgradable?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by casualattire, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. casualattire

    casualattire Notebook Enthusiast

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    i was wondering if the cpu and graphics card of the sager np6165 is upgradable. does anyone know? i tried looking for a guide on how to determine this in general (not just for one specific model), but i couldn't find the information i was looking for. if anyone knows of such a guide, please point me in the right direction. thanks!
     
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    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    CPU? I think so. GPU? No.
     
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    Typically, not always, your lower class graphics cards are integrated (soldered to the mainboard) making them a non-upgradeable item.

    CPU can be upgraded but only within the power limits of the laptop.
     
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    casualattire Notebook Enthusiast

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    so if i have a discrete graphics card as opposed to an integrated graphics card, does that mean it isn't soldered to the mainboard and is therefore upgradable?

    also, what do you mean by power limits?

    sorry i'm new to the topic of upgrading laptops. i tried looking for more information about it, but i haven't found very much.
     
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    omnivor Notebook Consultant

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    No, discrete just means that you have a separate graphics card. Integrated means the GPU that is actually part of the CPU chip (iGPU). In this case, the 650M is soldered to the motherboard, but it is still a separate (discrete) GPU.

    I believe the NP6165 has a 120W power brick. The stock CPU and the 650M are both 45W, so that makes 90W as the baseline, and you can't go over the 120W for your entire system (which includes plugged in accessories, and fan)
     
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    I am in the process of ordering my new laptop as well and I've been on the phone and going back and forth with someone at XoticPC. I specifically asked about the 6165 being upgradeable and they told me no. They said that only the 9150 is user upgradeable. For me, that made my decision much easier.
     
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    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the np6165 dont pack the necessary mxm connector, thus voiding it of upgrading the gpu.

    Notebooks have TDP limitations, which is basically how much heat they can dissipate, for example the p150em has a tdp limit of over 155w, while the np6165 has only 90w ish, since Im not sure on how much the gt 650m is regarding tdp

    the discrete card is basically a card that aint integrated into the system (either via the package like the 9400m in the mbp, or via cpu like the intel hd3000 or the 6620g in the a8), meaning that if you have another gpu aside the one that comes in the cpu (thats only valid for the now btw) you are packing a discrete gpu
     
    Karamazovmm, May 1, 2012
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