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    Is there any way to adjust the fan speed of the GPU?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Mikki79, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Mikki79

    Mikki79 Notebook Guru

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    My laptop has a 1070, as soon as the temperature reaches roughly 53c degrees it gets annoyingly loud. I understand the fans getting loud when playing games and the GPU reaches close to 75, and thats not a problem.

    The plan when I bought this laptop was to be able to use it for everything, work, gaming etc... however it's kinda embarrasing to use it at work. CAD programs such as Catia makes it annoyingly loud, despite the temperature never reaching above 55c. I would rather see it get as hot as when gaming (75c) but be a lot quieter.

    This is my one remaining issue with this laptop, CPU speed can be downclocked so it stays quiet when performance isn't needed. However there seems to be absolutely nothing you can do to keep the GPU quiet. You can't downclock it, you can't adjust the fans speed what so ever. Nothing. In fact if I could go back in time 6 weeks or so I'd probably never gotten this laptop.
     
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    Which model laptop are you using, @Mikki79 ?

    There is some user control through the Clevo Control Panel. Beyond that, the fan profile is controlled by the EC firmware. You could try updating that, or simply reflashing the current version.
     
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    i have no idea if these new clevo's are anything like the previous as mine is 4 years old now but ive always found that once the fans kick in they dont want to stop when the temps lower or you do something less stresful like web brousing.
    simple solution worth trying is having something like nvidia inspector loaded on your desktop. run that and as soon as it opens it resets the fans to either slow or a lot lower than full pelt.
    you can get the free software in my link below.
     
  4. Mikki79

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    P775DM3. However I just noticed it does seem that MSI Afterburner can change the clock speed and memory speed. Well I'm not actually sure if it works or not, seems to allow me to downclock it by 400Mhz. I don't know how much that will affect noise though, as long as it would stay under 50c it should remain quiet, cause it's after 52c or 53c that the fans really start ramping up.
     
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    Are you able to prop the laptop up on something? An extra 1 - 2 inches elevation will help it "breathe" a bit better.
     
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    Sadly it didn't work, the MSI Afterburner downclock had zero effect. It does run 400Mhz slower but fans sound the same and temperature is the same, kinda odd
     
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    try the nvidia inspector. as ive just come back to my lappy and they are on half speed. opening nvidia inspector and the fans go almost silent.
    it is using the HD4000 most of the time now as ive packed up gaming but the software seems to still sort the fans out even though its not using the 680gtx
     
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    By lowering the clock you take longer to reach the part of the fan curve that increases the speed significantly however it will reach that with a clock speed decrease like that.

    Try undervolting your CPU and locking the gpu through the msi clock curve editor (see msi afterburner pascal clock editing) to a lower speed using shift + L, that way the clock and voltage are both dropped.
     
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    Hmm that might have done something. Tried to follow what you suggested not sure if I did it correct. Set the GPU to -400Mhz, pressed CTRL + F, clicked on the left most dot and pressed CTRL + L and a vertical dotted line appeared at the leftmost edge of the window. This does seem to make the GPU have a hard time climbing above 50c, which does keep it relatively quiet. Earlier it almost instantly reached 52-53c.
     
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    Voltage has a much bigger impact on temperature than frequency. Yes that sounds right :)
     
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    Frequency and voltage are often correlated so they kind of go hand in hand for temperature. If you have a lower clock speed, assuming you're on adaptive voltage, your voltage will drop and your temps will drop.

    If you underclock your CPU and have a static voltage set so that it was the same before and after underclocking, then yeah I wouldn't expect to see much of a temperature change if any. :D
     
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    Thanks for the help. The only flaw with this solution is it doesn't downclock/volt either when Idle, so it always runs at 1075Mhz / 800mV (What I gather from looking at that curve). Normally it seems to clock down to <140Mhz and 550mV when idle. I suppose I'll just have to manually switch profiles depending on what I'm doing.
     
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    Actually, if you select the power saver checkbox in ThrottleStop, it should down clock it to that when idle.

    Edit: OOPS, NVM, I didn't see you were talking about a GPU. 4AM is too late for me. LOL
     
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    Bottom line is, whatever Clevo does that screws us out of the ability to totally assume manual control of the fans needs to stop and they need to take a different approach. Dell and Alienware laptops can use the manual fan controls provided in HWiNFO64 or SpeedFan. That has been possible for years. It's totally inexcusable that we cannot do this on Clevo laptops. Actually, it would be inexcusable to not be able to do that with any laptop. That we cannot is retarded.

    When the new wave of brain cancer metastasized at Alienware with the release of Haswell machines they crippled this feature and HWiNFO64 fan controls suddenly no longer worked. They castrated the fans to make the machines artificially quiet at the expense of everything else, then blocked the ability to manually override fan controls. The ridicule from their customers was bitter and shrill. They got tired of people railing on their stupidity and sending back their new laptops for a refund because of broken fan controls.

    If we want Clevo to fix this (or other problems, like their worthless Hotkey piece of trash) the complaints need to be voluminous, incessant, obnoxious and shrill... same arm-twisting process that was required to get the idiots at Dell to pay attention and fix their broken Alienwares. Clevo is just like any other OEM on the planet. None of them care or want to spend money fixing their mistakes, and none of them do unless it affects their bottom line.
     
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    ThrottleStop can affect the GPU? Doesn't matter anyway, that box is greyed out.

    On another note I noticed that overclocking the GPU by +200Mhz hardly had any effect on temperatures, maybe a couple of degrees at most. Did gain 300-400 points in 3d Mark Time Spy so it does seems to have improved performance a bit, might as well keep it at +200Mhz for gaming if it doesn't affect temperatures.
     
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    Oh, oops, I didn't see you were talking about GPU. My bad! Whenever I hear "doesn't downclock", I immediately think of CPUs and think of ThrottleStop's Power Saver mode as the solution.

    However, I will still try to help. If your GPU is not downclocking properly, Go into NVIDIA Control Panel, Manage 3D settings, and change the Power Management Mode to adaptive. That should do the trick.
     
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    Nah the issue was that the GPU is too noisy when using CAD programs at work, so I wanted to prevent it from clocking up. That was possible to do with MSI Afterburner but the method I was suggested to prevent it from clocking up also prevents it from clocking down. Cause it uses a fixed GPU frequency/voltage. Of course it's obvious it works like that.

    Oh well, no way to make it perfect because of Clevos idiotic unadjustable fan curves. Even their own Hotkey/CCC program can't change the fan speeds despite pretending to. Custom fan profile in Clevo Control Center never did anything for me, so I uninstalled the whole thing, useless software.
     
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    They are designed to help those who want to make it more aggressive with the GPU fan offset function in the overclocking tool. The stock curve is designed to ensure the machine meets the promised life span.