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    Is this a Sager?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by kazakore, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    i think its an asus model. what are you looking for? fill out the faq
     
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    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Looking an audio production laptop and was asking about the D901C and M570TU as I know they have both been used by people who spec PCs for this use on another forum. In the UK the only people who sell them target them solely at gamers so somebody piped up with "Why don't you get an audio specific laptop like one from Red Submarine" so I thought I'd have a look. On closer inspection I could see the differences but the keyboard looked so similar I thought it might of also been a Sager at first, which would of completely null and voided his point.
     
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    i bought my m860tu for all sorts of reasons. brousing,djing and gaming. i wasnt a gamer before but i sort of am now.
    sagers can be built mainly for audio and that way you get the best of both worlds. the build quality of sager and saving lots of £££ on getting a lower spec graphics card.
    what sort of audio work do you do?
    also if you give us your rough budget and minimum spec then we can advice you further.
     
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    not with an 8600m gs card in it...def some sort of asus model. they use to be a main carrier of that audio chip.(Intel Azalia audio card with built-in stereo speakers, subwoofer and microphone )

    also, if your going to do audio, i would suggest almost any quad core (super serious) setup with 1920x1200 screen. (at least it's what we use when running protools with usb module)
     
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    the 8600m gs is a gpu not sound card.

    i make music in FL Studio on a Sager 2092 with t8300 2.4ghz. even with 20 or so patterns and 15 complex vsts running i don't get anywhere near 50% cpu usage. you can basicly use any notebook for audio production with the use of a usb or express card sound card though Compal and Clevo (sagers) and Zepto have excellent sound cards already. the main thing you'll want is a large and fast hard drive (250 or 350gig 7200rpm) 3gigs of ram and a high res screen so you have enough screen space to work with

    i would look at a Zepto NOX.. a bit expensive but worth it
     
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    meaning sagers dont come with a lowly 8600m gs video card on their 17" models

    also, when doing audio you use plugins and the plugins are where you start needing more power and memory to run. the base program may run fine in the beginning, but once you start loading up the plugins/filters and eq settings. it get beyond 50 percent. on a single/dual core system. but this is probably on a more high end scale of things. kind of why studios use high end macs with dual zeons to run their audio programs
     
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    plugins? they're vst - virtual instruments. and no they use quad processors for encoding mp3s faster.. not making music the music.
     
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    Please can you explain what you mean with the mp3-thing :confused:
     
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    huh? are you sure about that. i have like 10 studios that say other wise different. and they are running any where from 16 to 128 tracks for movie sound tracks. and you think a dual core will out perform a quad or a dual quad..ummmm...ok..if you say so.
    unless your just making music with a plugged in keyboard and doing like 8 tracks, then maybe you might be correct.
    encoding mp3's huh.... try mixing and mastering along with that and a long list of other things that go with it.

    edit: let me ask you...are you only making beats or doing the production part of things? or are you doing the full workup from beginning to end including vocals/mixing 7 mastering?

    that's what i heard as well...
     
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    Sorry, but you can't just use any laptop if you want to use a firewire soundcard. Not all firewire chipset can handle external cards.
     
  13. jcovelli

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    where in this thread is there anything about firewire?

    where did i say a dual core will out perform a quad?.. in fact i didn't say anything even remotely close to that

    and where did the op post anything about producing movie soundtracks?

    and why don't people ever actually read threads?
     
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    "lets not jump on the examples as if they we're topics, thanks."

    and i just asked a few people and most of them said fl studio was a mid low level production software along with fruity loops.
    as for firewire...i didn't bring it up.
    and if he is getting a 3k laptop, why should he limit himself to your specifications when it's geared to do much more with the right setup?
     
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    fl studio and fruity loops are the same thing.. and it's now where near low level lol. it's one of the most widely use DAWs by djs and producers
     
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    not the expert on fl studio. just that the people i deal with don't use it. most people i know use pro tools. none of the dj's i have dealt with use it. sorry. it's probably a nice program and all.
     
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    Not sure what you mean but yes quad core will make any kind of intense processing harder, whether it be converting to mp3, which doesn't take long for single tracks anyway, or rendering your production to a wav, which will generally be better than real time unless you use a host with freezing capability or you bounce down tracks while producing to have cpu resources.

    Most modern hosts (the sequencer you produce in, which then in turns hosts your VST instruments and effects)will run with multicores (but not hypertreading.) The one I use works on whole tracks to a core, so if you had 8 tracks all with VSTs that heavily load the CPU it will likely designate 2 to each core on a quad processor and 4 to a core if you only have a duo.


    Sorry the thread seemed to of moved on but the original thread was answered and I did also have one about firewire so excuse people for mixing them both up. It is all relevant to what I have been asking people, so thank all.