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    Ivy Bridge Backwards Compatibility on HM65- Not happening (rumor)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Epsilon748, May 27, 2011.

  1. Epsilon748

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    Ivy Bridge’s Backwards Compatibility Explained

    Looks like 8130/8150 owners won't have an upgrade path to Ivy Bridge with their HM65 chipsets if this is true. 8170 should though as it's HM67. Hope this changes before release in the end...

    Anyone know otherwise that isn't under NDA?
     
    Epsilon748, May 27, 2011
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  2. psun786

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    It didn't mention HM65 at all... so I guess there is still hope :p
     
    psun786, May 27, 2011
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  3. DEagleson

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    Ouch. D:
    At least i may get the option to get Ivy bridge, but it all depends on Clevo / Sager adding the compatible bios update.
     
    DEagleson, May 27, 2011
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  4. Red Line

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    Finally i've got some clue about laptop compatibility , now i'd go for 8170 with 3d screen for better future proof) do you know if PCI 3.0 gonna make any difference or just a marketing step towards for video cards, which would use its potential in a couple of years from now? Thanks in advance
     
    Red Line, May 27, 2011
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  5. niffcreature

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    the page was updated, hm67 will not be included either.

    but you never know, there were chipsets like gl60 where the upgrade just worked.
     
    niffcreature, May 27, 2011
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  6. Electric Shock

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    Well, I guess this means that eventually when ivy bridge comes out and Clevo comes out with a optimus/quick sync equipped 15" gaming notebook that I'll have to sell this one.

    The battery power benefits of Ivy Bridge and optimus/quick sync will be substantial compared to our HM65 systems if the rumors are true.
     
    Electric Shock, May 27, 2011
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  7. trvelbug

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    Plus ssd caching
     
    trvelbug, May 28, 2011
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  8. Pman

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    as far as I am aware they will not be backwards compatible

    There will be new chipsets on the mobos
     
    Pman, May 28, 2011
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  9. Blacky

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    A predictable outcome.
     
    Blacky, May 28, 2011
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  10. niffcreature

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    Hey, they'll probably use the same chassis. Motherboard upgrades FTW!

    It would be so awesome to upgrade a w860cu to ivy bridge.
     
    niffcreature, May 28, 2011
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  11. Red Line

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    ooops, take my words back... didn't notice Not happening at the thread's name) at least we have another year for our laptops to last at its best!
     
    Red Line, May 29, 2011
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    Um, wrong. It will last a year if you want cutting-edge technology. But the laptop itself will last for a very long time....plus, who needs that much processing power? No thank you, I'm keeping my current laptop for a minimum of 4 years...

    1 year in, I'm upgrading my warranty.
    2 years in, I'm upgrading my graphics card.
    3 years in, I'm upgrading my RAM.

    Yep....makes perfect sense to buy a Sager.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, May 29, 2011
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  13. nllptr

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    You have 3 months from your ship date to upgrade your warranty.
     
    nllptr, May 29, 2011
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  14. Mr_Mysterious

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    After that...you can't upgrade your warranty?

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, May 29, 2011
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  15. Vapkez

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    What would you upgrade your GPU to? The 560M is not that much faster....
     
    Vapkez, May 29, 2011
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  16. Mr_Mysterious

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    Yeah, there will be more and better options in 2 years, trust me :p

    I didn't say I'm upgrading it now...I'm upgrading it in 2 years.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, May 29, 2011
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  17. Harleyquin07

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    Help for the ignorant: Exactly what does Ivy Bridge offer that's leagues above what is currently available from the Sandy Bridge chipsets? As already mentioned, I'm sure it's nice for people who demand cutting-edge technology, the rest of us would be quite happy staying without upgrades for at least 2 years once the initial craze has died off.
     
    Harleyquin07, May 29, 2011
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  18. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Not a whole lot, it's the tock in Intel's "tick-tick" roadmap, which means it's just a die shrink from the sandy bridge architecture. It's supposed to have the new 3D transistor technology, which will bump up CPU speeds ~20% and onboard GPU by 30% (plus they're shooting to have DX11 on the chipset now). It's mostly a lot of incremental improvements, nothing revolutionary other than the new transistor layout.
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, May 29, 2011
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  19. TransformingNow

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    Isn't the Ivy Bridge chipset supposed to have built in support for USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt as well?
     
    TransformingNow, May 29, 2011
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    Sandy-Bridge Clevos already have USB3.0 as it is, the Thunderbolt interface isn't in widespread demand enough for it to be a "must-have" for current purchases. If there's not that huge a performance/feature upgrade over the existing quad-cores, then I suppose only serious upgraders will be considering a motherboard overhaul.
     
    Harleyquin07, May 29, 2011
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    ssd caching acrosse all platforms in ivybridge. thats the only noteworthy thing they added to ib
     
    trvelbug, May 30, 2011
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  22. Mr_Mysterious

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    As good as QuickBoost in Windows 8 (or whatever the next generation OS from MS is going to be called) and SSD caching promises to be....

    It's still not as good as a dedicated SSD in your system :D

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, May 30, 2011
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  23. trvelbug

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    it definitely isnt.
    but for those who require more space and cannot afford to buy a decent capacity ssd (256 is what id consider decent), then ssd caching is a very good alternative.
    imagine having a speedy 750gb scorpio black and a 20-40gb ssd cache. that would really be the best of both worlds imho

    edit :
    i wouldn't call it a must have feature, but to me its the only feature on ib worth having.
     
    trvelbug, May 30, 2011
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  24. Red Line

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    so HM65 is not comaptible with the upcoming Ivy Bridge CPU's, or there's still hope?
     
    Red Line, Sep 15, 2011
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    In the very least, he can upgrade to a 580m or 6990m. He may even have the ability to upgrade to a next gen card, depending on compatibility. That alone gives him the ability to get 60-70% more graphics power.
     
    seanowns, Sep 15, 2011
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  26. Kevin

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    No hope. Not a gram. Zero.
     
    Kevin, Sep 15, 2011
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  27. Red Line

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    Ok, tnx :eek: that's a bit dissapointing... Ivy Bridge promises a lot of potential! probably should stick with the best possible SB CPU i could get for my rig then :cool:
     
    Red Line, Sep 15, 2011
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    I want the upgrade after that, have a laptop in stand by mode that is still connected to the internet downloading email update etc, and battery last a week....


    Next-gen Intel CPUs to improve mobile graphics, battery life

    Not to mention the built in GPU will get a 60% bump which if sager ever supports would help as can use onboard for desktop usage and dedicated card for the games!
     
    Bryanu, Sep 16, 2011
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  29. jigglywigglyx

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    How do you know for sure though :/?
     
    jigglywigglyx, Feb 28, 2012
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    If it makes you feel better, We'll confirm it. Mobile SandyBridge is NOT upgradable to Mobile IvyBridge. Nope, not at all, no hope. That's from Intel.

    Desktops, it depends on the motherboard / BIOS
     
    mythlogic, Feb 28, 2012
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