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    Just ordered a 9262 from XoticPC

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by abstravel, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. abstravel

    abstravel Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    After many weeks of reading and getting information from many of you on the forum, I came to the decision to order from XoticPC.
    Even though I had gotten a lower price somewhere else, the reputation, warranty and the years in business - made me go with XoticPC.

    Below is what I got.

    Products
    1x SAGER NP9262 Ultimate Custom Laptop (Built on Clevo D900C / D901C)
    - Warranty: 3 Year Parts & Labor Warranty 24
    - Operating System: ~Windows Vista Business 64-Bit I
    - AC Adapter: Full Range Auto Switching AC Ada
    - Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (12 Cell)
    - Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
    - Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audi
    - Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
    - Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 496
    - Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
    - Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
    - Raid: Raid 1-Mirror (Copies primary ha
    - Secondary Hard Drive: ~ 200GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
    - Primary Hard Drive: ~ 200GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
    - Optical Drive: ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +
    - Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
    - Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) D
    - Video Card: SLI ENABLED DUAL (2) 512MB PCI-E
    - Processor: ~Intel Core 2 QUAD Q9550 2.83GHz
    - Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
    - Arctic Silver: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    - Display: 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Cl
     
  2. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    Welcome to the family :)

    PS:You could have got a 320GB 5400 rpm almost as fast as 200GB 7200rpm but with bigger capacity.
     
  3. Donald@Paladin44

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  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    ^^ agreed with the previous posts. :)

    Nice specs for the beast.... I am really wanting a quad-core notebook now. :D
     
  5. abstravel

    abstravel Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    Thanks for the info. I know that the 320GB 5200RPM is faster, but I use my laptop for business and many applications are open, writing and saving info all at once. I believe in my case, the 200GB 7200RPM will be just a tad better.

    Regards,
     
  6. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    It's your call,we just pointed out more value for money :D

    In case you didn't get it a 200GB 7200rpm is only as fast as 320GB 5400 rpm HDD as in the 320GB the data is nearer and it doesn't need to rotate that fast.Plus it will be a bit cooler and need less power^^
     
  7. Roland@XoticPC

    Roland@XoticPC Company Representative

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    You can also view the performance charts for the 320GB@5400 or 200GB@7200 using HD Tune to show benchmark scores [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    dit_xi Notebook Evangelist

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    Justin W., that all Greek (Japanese? in this case) to me!
     
  10. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Man, another thread about a new 9262? somebody give me a rope, I`ll hang ma self.
     
  11. Donald@Paladin44

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    Here you go!
     

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    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    There, I hanged ma self.
    [​IMG]
     
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    oicwutudidthar Notebook Consultant

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    Opteron Notebook Evangelist

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    If I would have known the 320gb 5400rpm, were faster then My seagate 200gb 7200rpm.

    boooooo
     
  15. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    cong mate,enjoy ;)
     
  16. abstravel

    abstravel Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks guys...now the waiting starts, tick, tock, tick, tock....

    By the way, I read on another post that the SLI 8800s took anywhere from 500MB-1GB of RAM memory from the computer chips? This doesn't sound right.
    Doesn't the 8800 have its own memory chip?
     
  17. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The cards do have their own memory, but in order for the computer to address that memory a portion of the system's address space is assigned to the cards - just like with every other peripheral. This, BTW, is the genesis of the so-called "memory hole." On WinXP, which has a maximum address space of 4GB, the effect of this is that there is not enough address space left over to assign addresses to 4GB of RAM - thus, XP can only address (4GB - peripheral address space) bytes of RAM.
     
  18. abstravel

    abstravel Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks Shyster.

    I was not aware of that. Thus, dedicated RAM on the video cards, will not make much difference, compared with shared-video RAM cards?

    Sounds weird. I though that share-video ram cards used the ram from the computer instead of its own.

    Regards,
     
  19. Donald@Paladin44

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    Douglas, you are missing a fine distinction.

    We are talking about memory "addressing" not the memory itself. Therefore it makes no difference whether the video memory is discrete (the video card has its own) or integrated (the video uses system memory), it still needs to be "addressed".

    This addressing space will need to be used for a discrete video card, even though it has its own memory. The chipset can only address so much memory no matter what device is using it...the video card, the processor's L2 cache, etc...thereby leaving only the remaining portion of the total of 8GB available for applications.
     
  20. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No, dedicated RAM on video cards is of paramount importance, and yes, integrated graphics (i.e., share-video ram cards) use system RAM as they don't typically have any of their own dedicated RAM.

    Paladin44 probably explained it better, but I'll take my own shot at it, too.

    Think of the following analogy:

    Your computer has a given, limited, address-space, which can be thought of as a giant bank of mailboxes in the post-office, sort of like this (they're all one size, though, unlike the pic :D ):
    [​IMG]

    The computer (i.e., the CPU) uses these mailboxes to communicate with every other component on the motherboard - think of each component as a post-office customer, like these poor schleps:
    [​IMG]

    Each of those mailboxes can be rented to one, and only one, customer, such as individual RAM bytes, video cards, sound cards, USB devices, etc. Now, to go back to the pic of the line of customers; imagine that that line represented the total number of mailboxes available at that particular post-office (ok, so it's a really, really small one since it only has 10 mailboxes to rent). That means that this post office can provide communications to no more than 10 customers at any given time, no matter how many people there are standing outside the door wanting to become customers. Finally, think of the two guys in back of the line as RAM bytes, the two guys in white shirts as GPU cards, the red shirt as a USB device, and everyone else other miscellaneous motherboard components.

    Effectively, this post-office CPU cannot address more than 10 bytes of RAM; however, in order to do so, it could not communicate with any other peripheral, USB device, or anything else - i.e., it becomes a little like Stephen Hawking, truly brilliant, but trapped in its own body and unable to fully interact with the rest of the world (and I say that with the greatest respect for Dr. Hawking, who is one of the greatest physicists of all time)

    In order for our post-office CPU to be effective, it needs to be able to communicate with every other sort of device that exists on a modern computer; however, for each additional device we add that the CPU must communicate with, we lose the ability to communicate with one more byte of RAM. Thus, in my pictoral analogy, in order to have a really screaming graphics setup, a USB device, and other necessary components, we had to give up the ability to communicate with 8 bytes of RAM, leaving us with a total number of addressable RAM bytes of 2. Keep in mind, the computer could be capable of supporting 20 bytes of RAM, but those additional 18 bytes - in their neato black polo shirts - would have to stand around aimlessly outside the door of the post-office until such time as one of the other peripherals was removed from the system - perhaps by the post-office bouncer :D :
    [​IMG]

    Thus, to go from the analogy back to the actual computer - the system may support up to 4GB of RAM; however, if it only has 4GB of post-office mailboxes, it will be unable to communicate with some of the bytes in that 4GB of physical RAM.
     
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  21. morphy

    morphy Notebook Deity

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    wow shyster do you use to be a teacher or something? Or a tech writer? +rep
    I'm still trying to make sense of the manual that came with my multi remote...any chance you can rewrite that? :D
     
  22. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    Wow shyster,great job as usual,rep'd.

     
  23. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    i think shyster is a lawyer.
     
  24. abstravel

    abstravel Notebook Consultant

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    Not a teacher, nor a lawyer, nor a tech rep...Shyster's Da Man!

    Thanks for the analogy Shyster.
     
  25. Dreidel

    Dreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    in all my years of postal analogies, i have never seen anything quite like this. shyster is truly a beast
     
  26. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    [​IMG]
     
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