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    Just ordered my860tu !_!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Heathkidd, Aug 4, 2008.

  1. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    store\/
    http://www.p4laptops.com.au/order-m860gt.htm
    Processor: Intel Montevina 2.40 Ghz P8600 +$75
    Storage: 320GB 7200 rpm SATA $0
    Memory: 4GB DDR2 800Mhz +$0 (2x2GB)
    Graphics: 9800m GT
    Display: WSXGA+ 1680x1050 +$0
    Bluetooth: Bluetooth V2.0 EDR +$0
    Wifi:MiniPCI 802.11ABGN +$0
    Windows: Vista Home Premium 64 (CD) +$175
    Carry Bag: No Bag $0
    Warranty:1 Year Warranty $0

    Total GST: $259
    Grand Total: $2,849.00 (Australian dollarz)

    have not made any drastic mistakes have i? ... i'm very excited omgz i finally made a order.. almost slipped for a m15x till i spent a weekend with them at a convention here in perth and already started to dislike them thank god for that.

    these are what finally made me slip back to clevo they make the m860tu look so beautiful and i also had a wonderful day :)
    http://www.m-techlaptops.com/specifications/mtechm860tu_images.htm

    i also have a nice Rockstar games sticker i picked up ready to slap on its back :)
    [​IMG]
    Looking forward for all being ok.. any thing i need to prepare for my clevo? my reseller says 4-10 working days.

    mabye i should clip my fav 1920x1200 background for the 1680x1050 fun fun

    any one know any thing about clevo boot screens? wouldn't mind a rockstar one or some thing.
     
  2. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Where from?
     
  3. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    http://www.p4laptops.com.au/order-m860gt.htm

    only decent Australian reseller i can find.. i know 1 guy on this forum that ordered from them before and got a doggy scrn on a NP5973... but i think ill be ok .. i hope

    they are based in Perth ill do a full report on them for the Clevo guide section once every or any thing they takes place.


    i will actual pick up the laptop from the store/location of the reseller so that will be interesting.. may get some snaps
     
  4. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    cong :) hope that you ll enjoy your laptop
     
  5. De@thknight

    De@thknight Notebook Consultant

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    Gratz, whats your est dispatch date?
     
  6. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Cool, congrats on your system.

    And by the way, I don't think you'd wanna put the R* sticker on if they don't release GTA IV for PC :D
     
  7. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    nice one Heathkidd,congrats on your purchase.
    i will be next.
     
  8. livesoft

    livesoft BUSTED

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    From $2599.00...Isn't expensive for the M860TU?? It starts from $1,859.00 from Sager...

    Other than that, the CPU is good for the price, 7200rpm hard drive, RAM is OK. Personally, I would get a 3year warranty but you shouldn't have any problems. M860TU FTW
     
  9. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Australian pricing.,
     
  10. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    yer my only question was if i should get 4gigs of DDR3 over 2... it was 200more for DDR3... basicaly i think in a year or so when i need some more performance ill replace my DDR2 with some really high quality DDR3.. with mad timings etc.. that i can research my self.

    my main concern with this laptop atm is battery life.. i'm feeling confident about the heat after looking over the design.
    as long as i can get 3hours net and 1 hours gaming ill be happy :)

    and yes GTA4 is coming to PC lol lol lol.. i have it on 360 and love but the Esrb i think it was released info that its basically confirmed. The sticker is more due to my love for the game studio rather than any exclusive or what ever hehe
     
  11. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    Any one know what kind of Performance Diference i could expect from DDR2 to DDR3 ram...

    humm only think im wondering about my purchase atm... because my CPU wouldnt require the higher speed ram would it... hence its pointless? .. just like putting DDR2 800 in for a cpu that will drop it to 677?


    i do plan to try and overclock my Cpu as much as safe


    OHHH NOES the m15x will have the 9800m GTX :(

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MICHAELSD01 View Post
    I just searched the knowledgebase for the m15x to see if Alienware added anything early... and behold, the specs for the new m15x!

    Question
    What are the features and specifications of the Alienware Area-51 m15x mobile desktop?
    Answer


    Thank you for your inquiry

    Applies to:

    *
    Alienware Area-51 m15x mobile desktop

    Thank you for your inquiry.

    The following list outlines the features and specifications of the Alienware Area-51 m15x mobile desktop:

    Operating Systems

    Windows® Vista™ Home Premium
    Windows® Vista™ Ultimate

    Processors, Chipset & Memory

    Intel® Core™2 Duo processors (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB).
    Intel® Core™2 Duo Extreme processors (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB).
    Intel GL40
    Up to 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
    2 dedicated SO-DIMM slots for Dual Channel DDR2 Memory

    Graphics & Video

    Single Graphics Card
    256MB NVIDIA® GeForce Go 9600M GT
    512MB NVIDIA® GeForce Go 9700M GTS
    512MB NVIDIA® GeForce Go 9800M GT
    512MB NVIDIA® GeForce Go 9800M GTX
    BinaryGFX - Switch between high-performance graphics and integrated graphics

    Connectivity (Video)

    Video out: One HDMI 1.2 Connector
    HDMI to DVI-D adapter - optional

    Hard Drive Storage

    Single Hard Drive
    5400 RPM - Up to 320GB SATA
    7200 RPM - Up to 200GB SATA

    Removable Second Hard Drive available with SmartBay

    Optical Drives

    8x Dual Layer CD-RW / DVD±RW
    8x Dual Layer CD-RW / DVD±RW w/ LightScribe Technology
    2x Blu-Ray Reader / DVD±RW / CD-RW Burner
    Dual Layer 2x Blu-Ray / DVD±RW / CD-RW Burner

    Networking

    Wireless Connectivity
    Internal Intel PRO Wireless 4965 b/g/n Mini-Card
    Integrated Bluetooth 2.0

    Wired Connectivity
    Integrated Gigabit Ethernet RJ-45

    Audio

    7.1/5.1 Digital High-Definition Audio (8 Channel)
    Two Speakers

    Connectivity (Audio)

    1x Auto-sensing headphone jack
    1x Auto-sensing microphone jack

    Peripheral Connections

    3 Hi-speed USB 2.0 ports
    Express Card Slot /54mm
    Firewire IEEE 1394b (9-pin) port - Not powered
    7-in-1 Memory Card Reader
    (SD/SDHC/MS/MSPRO/MMC)

    SmartBay

    Optical Drive
    Additional Hard Drive - optional
    Additional Battery - optional

    LCD Panel

    15.4” Wide Screen WUXGA 1920 x 1200 (1080p HDTV resolution support)
    15.4” Wide Screen WXGA 1440 x 900 (720p HDTV resolution support) with Clearview Technology

    Keyboard & Touchpad

    Full Size Keyboard
    Full Size Alien FX - optional
    Full Size Touchpad with Rocker Buttons
    Easy Touchpad On/Off

    Instant Access Buttons include:
    Volume Slider Control
    Bluetooth On/Off
    Wireless On/Off
    Command Center On/Off
    Stealth Mode On/Off

    Case & Chassis

    Height: 1.30”
    Width: 14.55”
    Depth: 10.73”
    Weight: 7 lbs
    Rear-Exhaust Cooling

    Battery

    Touch Activated Battery Meter
    6 Cell Lithium-ION Battery

    Security

    Security Lock Slot


    Thank you for your inquiry,

    The Alienware Technical Support Team
     
  12. livesoft

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    Overclocking = more battery usage and more heat. If you can solve these problems, you can overclock.

    Personally, Ive never heard about bottleneck because the RAM is clocked too high. There a slight, non-noticeable difference between DDR2 and DDR3 clocked at the same speed. But because DDR3 is clocked higher, you will observe better performances.
     
  13. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    humm yer... the CPU is 1066 thou and i only have 800ghz ram.. how ill that work?

    not really clued up on it atm..

    humm humm i think im going to wait on the DDR3 still thou i think u can get DDR3 1333 already
     
  14. Petrov

    Petrov Notebook Deity

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    Normally I'd think long and hard about going for the m15x with a 9800M GTX, but unless they announce a whole new chasis and cooling solution, I am just not going to be able to trust Alienware with my £££'s after the m15x debacle to-date.

    They have used up far too much goodwill in my view.

    Petrov.
     
  15. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What's the FSB frequency? Since the CPU is only 1066, my guess is that the FSB will clock similarly, and thus that the RAM will down-clock to match frequencies (keeping in mind that, as it's DDR2, if it ran at full clock of 800MHz, it would have an effective frequency of 1600).
     
  16. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh damn, did all M860TU buyers just get shafted by Alienware?
     
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    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I thought the M860TU can only take DDR3 RAM ? :confused:
     
  18. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    my reseller is offering it with DDR2.... 800 so i think it works. if not ill guess they will find out and auto update me to some ddr3
     
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    plasma. herpyderpy

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    on noes! IT DIDNT HAPPEN! stupid alienware network
     
  20. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    im really starting to angst about the battery life on this notebook :( the Np5976 is only hitting 2hours with web and 3/7 scrn ... ohh dear ..
     
  21. franzerich

    franzerich Notebook Evangelist

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    It also has the Quadro FX3600 now which is faster and more expensive than the 8800m GTX :confused2:

    Anyways, after all horror-stories I heard from Alienware's chassis I doubt it is worth the price and you better stick with some kind of Clevo.
    Obviously the single fan of the m860TU cannot offer the same cooling as an additional GPU cooler, the m15x has. Though I'd rather stick with a m860TU or m570TU than buying an Alienware. I'm adding that the axis of the Display from the m860TU looks robust nice and slick ;). I only wished the m570TU had this particular Design-feature... :eek:
     
  22. livesoft

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    I totally agree. I don't care about the little luminating skull or the backlight keyboard. That just says to everyone: Look a good an awesome laptop. Steal it!
     
  23. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    cool, you finaly found an australian seller. good for you. Hope you enjoy. I hope we get a review too when you get it.
     
  24. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    it uses more fans and larger screen
     
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    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    do you have any proof of this? one large fan is actually more efficient than two small ones.
     
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    spexc31 Notebook Evangelist

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    it is? why was people kinda iffy and suprised that the 860tu Only had one fan.
    i hope your right helio =)
     
  27. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    yer it is spex... small fans wast most of there power in deadzones (middle part) etc... the clevo layout could work quite well from my guess.. im a 3rd year architect student so my opinion must be good lolol3.

    UPDATE: DDR2 changed to DDR3 on my resellers website
    http://www.p4laptops.com.au/order-m860gt.htm

    it seems like my resellers may have made a mistake of offering DDR2 with this laptop and now only list DDR3 1066 as a option.. soooo fingers crossed they give me a free upgrade and don't give me it with DDR2 and not working lol.
     
  28. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    im actually quite surprised at how many sellers have done those little typo mistakes when they are SOOOOOOOO important. its practicly a different machine with these little mixups.
     
  29. franzerich

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    My only proof is "...no 9800m GTX in m860TU due to thermal Budget". If 1 fan were enough why not put it into the clevo m570TU as well? (would be cool though, and more comfortable if you need to control only 1 fan with software like speedfan :eek: )
     
  30. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    1- No 9800GTX as been offered on the M15x (at least not yet... and I honestly think it won't be able to cope). The dual fan system on the M15x is, in my opinion, a total disaster in dealing with the heat generated by CPU and GPU.
    Saying that the "dual cooling solution" in the M15x is good, just shows a complete lack of knowing what happened.

    2- The Quadro is not more powerful than the 8800GTX... Is designed for applications like Cad and other work applications. It's less powerful for gaming.

    Talking what you think is good... but at least it's good to be a bit more informed!

    The only thing that worries me with the 1 fan solution is that, imagine you use a very CPU demanding task (like movie compression, or music encoding or any other algorithm like that...), then the fan will go on at full blast, making lots of noise. It would obviously be good to hape separete cooling sources for CPU and GPU... but let's wait and see how it all works.