Just recieved my Sager NP5796

Specs
P8400 @ 2.26 Ghz
2Gb DDR3 RAM
9800m GT
Windows Vista Premium 64bit

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/457/systemspecswt3.jpg


3dmark06 was run in 1280x1024 standard settings (free demo). Score was 8950. This score was after cleaning up the computer (registry, temp files, service/background programs), uninstalling programs. Using the stock drivers that came with the laptop as there are no new drivers on nVidia's site for the 9800m GT and I am not familiar enough with laptopvideo2go.com to actually try it.

I recently installed laptopvideo2go.com drivers (version 177.79) which bumped my score up to 9050. I believe that is the best available driver right now as the 177.41 increased the 3dmark06 score to 8980 and the other drivers are sorely rated.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8981/3dmark068095va3.jpg

In Game Benchmarks These are rough guesses based on what I have seen in Fraps because I can't find where it saves the detailed benchmarks.
Team Fortress 2
Min FPS: 55
Max FPS: 100
Average: 70
Settings: 1680x1050, All Max, 4xAA 4xAF

Unreal Tournament 3
Max FPS: 55
Min FPS: 32
Average: 40
Settings: 1680x1050, All Max

HWMonitor (temperatures)
Idle, Fans @ Normal Mode, Power Saver: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9748/idlehighfanspowersaverkx0.jpg
Idle, Fans @ Full Blast, Power Saver: http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/2176/idlefullfanspowersaverhi9.jpg

Edit: I am now at college and in my dorm we have 24/7 cold, cold air conditioning.

Idle, Fans @ Full Blast, and Power saver (in my dorm): http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6595/idlefullfanspowersaveraob0.jpg

RM Clock Here is a screen shot of the first and second core speeds in RM Clock.

core #1: http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5240/cpucore1clocksjv2.jpg
core #2: http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9889/cpuclocksju6.jpg

Here's RM Clock with the Mobile setting
Core #1: http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2787/cpucore1clocksmobilebk7.jpg
Core #2: http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3725/cpucore2clocksmobileyl2.jpg

Seems to be running at faster than 2.26 Ghz. More like 2.3Ghz


Silent Mode Silent mode makes the fans VERY quiet at idle. There is still some fan noise depending on what you are doing. If using 1 or 2 programs it will be mostly quiet. More than 2 programs and it it will be moderately noisy. It all depends on what you are doing. The More you are doing, the less sound reduction you will recieve.

Example: right now I am installing games, downloading files, and listening to music while browsing internet. With Silent Mode on, it lowers the sound by very little. No point in using it really. I think it's because I am installing games onto the Hard drive which heats up very easily and can't run with Silent Mode

Also, I just looked at RM clock and if you are on high performance and you turn on Silent Mode, the fan speed decreases but so does the CPU clocks. They go from 2.3Ghz to 1.7Ghz for me. Too lazy to post screen shots.

Another thing, my silent mode seems to be whack. When I select normal mode, it goes quiet. When I select silent mode it gets loud. I think it's reversed or something

 

Press the Silent mode.

 

Oh thanks. Yeah I tried that before but it didn't work but now it's working. Made it silent thanks!

 

Silent mode? how does that work? At best it makes the fan less effective, right?

 

Turns off the fan and downclocks everything is my guess.

 

Nope, does not downclock called sager. Also i asked them about the fn+1 stuff said it was not on the 5796. Dreidel is silent mode actually silent?!

 

If you're right, I'm surprised the laptop doesn't catch on fire.

 

If Minkang is right, there is going to be an outbreak of library fires in the coming months...

 

Silent mode makes it silent when not doing much with the computer. When under a small load say a few apps open, the silent mode makes it RELATIVELY quiet. Still some noise however.

 

You, sir, are a genius.

(Unless you're a woman. The Super man logo might be throwing me off.)

 

According to what the tech guy told me, as soon as the temp sensors reach a point the fans will start to kick up again.

EDIT: Can you go ahead and dl RM Clock and see if it works. This is the main tool in undervolting and battery increase.

 

After tweaking my Windows Vista by getting rid of services/background programs, I got a 3dmark06 score of 8950.



Seems alright to me.

That score was run at standard 1280x1024 resolution (the free to download 3dmark06 demo.)

Laptop is running great. If anyone wants any ingame benchmarks let me know. I have the following games:

F.E.A.R.
Battlefield 2
Unreal Tournament 3
Team Fortress 2
Day of Defeat: Source

 

how are the framerates for UT3? I love that game!

 

What drivers were you using, and check to see if RM Clock works please

 

I was using the drivers that came with the laptop as I did not bother with laptopvideo2go.com yet and there are no official drivers for the 9800m GT on nVidia's site.

What is RM clocks?

 

Please do show them to us.

 

That 3d mark score is a bit lo I would expect in the 9000+ range for it. But obviously its all about the games. How does FEAR run with everything turned up? Hopefully well.

 

guess the DDR3 and 1066 FSB are not helping at all.

 

Why does 3DMark 06 say that you have a pentium III? Doesn't recognize penryn?

 

my guess is nvidia will be releasing drivers for the 9000m series soon to optimize performance since their dont seem to be any drivers yet. we might just have to wait and see.

 

Check the temps on everything with HWMonitor with and without Silent Mode and report back please.

 

at medium fan sppeed, can it be used in library without much attraction from other people

 

He doesnt have the 2.5ghz chip, he has the 2.2 i think. so that score is actually pretty decent for that processor. I've known people with thte t9500 and 8800mgtx score 8700ish. Similarly specced systems can have different scores ~500.

 

i want 9800m gtx to score 11500 at least but notebookcheck thinks otherwise

 

I also only have 2Gb of RAM

 

Dreidel you can get/use RM Clock and install it from here http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824
Just go to step 2, where you try and get it so that the program detects your proc/core speed etc.. This program is what you UV your CPU so you get more battery life, less heat etc.. Installing the program wont do anything just wanted you to see if the program would detect the Montevina chipset so I know if it works or not. Probably not but hoping it does.

 

maybe overclocked but according to notebookcheck, the gtx isnt all that more powerful than the gt. hope theyre accurate since i based my purchase of a gt on their benchies.

 

minkang do you have your 5796 already or waiting on it?

 

how come you decided not to go up to 4gb of RAM? I def know its not necessary just wondering why you didnt upgrade.

 

One last thing. For the games they benchmarked on notebookcheck.com, this was the difference in FPS they found in each game with the same settings:

Card 9800m gtx 9800m gt

Crysis 22 21

Enemy Territories 80 76

Half Life 2 Ep 2 68 64

Supreme Commander 55 53

World in Conflict 31 30

Worth the extra money?

 

Because I can upgrade a year down the line to 4gb for less than half the price of what it is now. Plus, don't need it as much now.

I don't plan on Undervolting and I couldn't get RM Clock to work. I extracted it but it kept popping up with an error. Sorry i'll try again later.

The comparison was made between a 9800m GT and an 8800m GTX. Not a 9800m GTX and a 9800m GT as the 9800m GTX hasn't been released yet.

 

Not to be rude but you should really edit your first post if no one else has posted since your last to include your latest thoughts rather than double, triple, or quadruple posting. I'm not sure that it is a rule here, but I know of some really strict forums who ban people for repeatedly breaking that rule (I don't think that is necessary however).

I'm just letting you know for future reference. It is just a matter of proper forum etiquette.

EDIT:

I just checked the forum rules and they mention nothing of the sort, so you can probably ignore me. The other forum that I have spent alot of time on however is really strict about that.

 

Umm no those are comparisons from 9800m gt and 9800m gtx.

Theres an FPS chart on this page.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9800M-GTX.9919.0.html

 

Am I the only one that notices they are saying each graphics card was tested with a q6600?

 

No I noticed that as well but its still comparing the cards everything else being equal. And my point is the 9800m GTX doesnt seem to be much of an improvement at all over the 9800m GT if those numbers are correct.

 

How can you say its a equal test when half the cards aren't even available to be tested with a q6600?

 

what do you mean half the cards? I dont know where they got these benchmarks from but Im obviously making the assumption they are real. If they are bogus then thats just lame.

Plus im just trying to compare the 9800m gtx to the gt not to the 8800m gtx. we already know the 9800m gt and 8800m gtx are basically equivalent.

 

For all those graphics cards to be tested on a q6600 "desktop processor", they would all have had to be tested on the np9262. The 9700m gt, 9700m gts and 9800m gts aren't even available on for the np9262.

 

The page says that "These benchmarks were conducted with high end notebooks (quad-core desktop CPU)." I dont know what notebooks they used but its from a German site not American.

I dunno dude. I dont know if theyre right or not. Im just reporting what notebookcheck.com says. Seemed to be a reliable source.

 

I suppose it is possible the graphics cards are all MXM compliant and work in the D901c. That would mean that Sager just decided not to offer them, which is possible.

 

What affect would the DDR3 RAM have on the speed of the system.
Would it just make loading times for programmes just generally faster?

 

There will probably be very little difference.

But it really doesn't matter, if you're buying the 5796, you can only choose DDR3

 

Dredeil did you get the 64bit driver that was at the bottom of the guide?

 

Nope I am trying it now.

Okay it Installed but what do you want me to take screenshots of?

 

Ok, when you open the program there should be a tab called CPU INFO see if your CPU comes up with the right speed etc... If not go into the advanced CPU Tab and then on the bottom right corner there should be a choice for auto detect, desktop, mobile. Select mobile. and then go back to the cpu info tab and see if everything comes up.

 

HAHAHAHAHA Intel Pentium III... that's great. Also, "Generic VGA", huh.

Wonder what kind of numbers the system will pull in with newer drivers...

 

thats cool that the core speeds are already a little overclocked... lucky you!

 

Dreidel any luck with what I mentioned above?
Also just out of curiosity did you get the Centrino 2 Sticker?

 

Look at the original post. I added RM clock screenshots. Tell me if that was what you were looking for.

Yes I i did get the centrino 2 sticker.

 

Gah doesnt seem to be recognizing the clocks either No RM Clock for me for a while NOOOOOOOOOOO. There goes 1 1/2 hours of battery

Thanks for looking it up