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    Laptop flexing without battery pack

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Erecent, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. Erecent

    Erecent Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, like many of you, i remove my battery pack when the laptop is plugged into the AC. However, i noticed that the laptop is flexing when it doesn't have the battery pack under it to support it and it just so happens that i rest my hand a lot above the battery pack because that's where WASD happen to be.

    Is this a cause for concern? Thanks guys.
     
  2. yhchoong

    yhchoong Notebook Consultant

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    No, if you refer back to the older threads, you will find that many others have reported the same thing too. The flex is not very nice of course but it doesn't cause any structural harm per se.
     
  3. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Nope, but if it bothers you- you can always cut a piece of styrofoam and put it into the battery bay when you have the battery out. That should get rid of the flex and still let you keep the battery out.
     
  4. brianvp

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    Actually I did this with my 8690 for a few months, now the battery does not fit right anymore, the front is warped, and I can see even the slight twist in the laptop looking from the front. So do this at your own risk, but know it will warp it over time if the battery pack has a rubber foot on it, if not, then you have nothing to worry about, but if it's part of the support for the laptop, then you will warp it. The only thing I know to do is either put styrofoam where the battery is or just cycle your battery once a month to make it last, which I did not, and it won't even recognize the battery most of the time, and when it does it lasts about 10 seconds.
     
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    emporiky Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry if this is not the right place for this question, but I didn't wanted to open new thread for this - is it possible to remove the battery while the laptop is turned on and plugged in to the AC ?
     
  6. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Yep. That shouldn't cause any issues. Obviously if you have a power outage, you lose the benefit of the battery as a UPS.
     
  7. dave1812

    dave1812 Notebook Deity

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    After reading this thread yesterday I decided to remove my battery, fit a block of Styrofoam in its place and crawl under my desk to be sure I had the power cord plugged into the UPS side of the UPS (my UPS also has outlets that aren't hooked up to the battery back-up circuit). All's well so far... :)

    Personally, I wouldn't recommend removing the battery if one doesn't have a UPS. You never know when a power outtage might scramble an important Windows file, leaving you with a mess.
     
  8. NovaH

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    I agree 100% on this. The consequences heavily outweigh the benefits. If you don't have a UPS just leave the battery in.
     
  9. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I dident buy my P170HMx because of the portability, so if the battery wears down faster, i dont mind as a power outtage would suck even more, and i dont own a UPS.
     
  10. Riley89

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    Are there any methods that can help reduce the battery "damage" by leaving it plugged in for long periods of time? I only ask because my current laptop's battery doesnt last more than 5 mins when not plugged in.. probably due to it sitting on my desk for years on end and my lack of information. Thanks!
     
  11. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Batteries die whether you use them or not. Lithium batteries have a 3-5 year lifespan on average. Some last longer, some less than that. It's why they're typically considered "consumable" items and excluded from standard warranty.

    That said, leaving the battery OUT of the machine when not using it exposes it to less heat and charging stress (trickle charging and discharge cycles), so it should theoretically last longer. Whether this amounts to anything noticeable is up to debate.

    To get the most out of it, you just shouldn't leave it charging to 100% all the time. Make sure you do discharge cycles regularly to avoid too many issues. In the end though, it will wear over time as the chemical processes inside begin to deteriorate- no matter how well you treat it.
     
  12. Riley89

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    Alright cool. I just wont worry much about it then. Thanks for the help Alex and Malibal!